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DJ's left nut · 12-05-2018, 02:30 PM

Okay, so look at what the Cardinals gave up for 2 years of Ozuna. They gave away 1 premier(ish) prospect in Alcantara and then scraps. Sierra has some nominal value, Gallen and whats his ass (Castellano or something?) have none.

Ozuna was coming off an MVP caliber season, a silver slugger and a gold glove. He also played a position further up on the defensive spectrum (though admittedly not a ton so). He was, by any reasonable calculus, a more valuable trade commodity with 2 years of control than Goldschmidt is with 1.

Ultimately you've got an easy trade comp here.

Alcantara ~= Hudson
Sierra ~= Adolis Garcia
Gallen ~= Woodford
4th guy ~= Who gives a shit?

And again - that's for a MORE valuable asset than 1 season of Paul Goldschmidt.

Seriously, if we give up more than Hudson and scraps, we will have gotten butt****ed in this deal. And Goold is reporting that the Cardinals are seeking a 72 hour window to reach an extension which just shows their hand. It means they aren't even doing the one thing that MIGHT make this intelligent; using Goldschmidt to lure Harper and then cutting him loose as he ages.

Nope - these stupid bastards are going to sign Goldschmidt, move Carpenter to 3b, manage to make themselves older and WORSE defensively and then go sign some overpriced reliever (again) and call themselves contenders.

They don't even try to hide it anymore. Their target is 88-90 wins and they're clearly not going to make any bold moves to get beyond that.

This organization just doesn't have the stones to win a championship anymore. The Cubs have money and aren't run by idiots. Likewise the Dodgers. The Phillies may still be run by idiots but there's money and then there's MONEY. The Phillies have the latter. The Braves have arguably the deepest pool of young talent I've seen in decades. The Nationals even have a rich owner who doesn't care how rich he is when he dies so they'll keep throwing money at things.

Hell, the BREWERS have passed us. And nobody in this franchise wants to do anything apart from sign an aging righthanded hitter so they can displace the one legitimate quality hitter we have on this team. Really looking forward to them all acting surprised when Carpenter's arm is hurting.

This team is just so shockingly stupid.

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2649099	Okay, so look at what the Cardinals gave up for 2 years of Ozuna. They gave away 1 premier(ish) prospect in Alcantara and then scraps. Sierra has some nominal value, Gallen and whats his ass (Castellano or something?) have none. Ozuna was coming off an MVP caliber season, a silver slugger and a gold glove. He also played a position further up on the defensive spectrum (though admittedly not a ton so). He was, by any reasonable calculus, a more valuable trade commodity with 2 years of control than Goldschmidt is with 1. Ultimately you've got an easy trade comp here. Alcantara ~= Hudson Sierra ~= Adolis Garcia Gallen ~= Woodford 4th guy ~= Who gives a shit? And again - that's for a MORE valuable asset than 1 season of Paul Goldschmidt. Seriously, if we give up more than Hudson and scraps, we will have gotten butt****ed in this deal. And Goold is reporting that the Cardinals are seeking a 72 hour window to reach an extension which just shows their hand. It means they aren't even doing the one thing that MIGHT make this intelligent; using Goldschmidt to lure Harper and then cutting him loose as he ages. Nope - these stupid bastards are going to sign Goldschmidt, move Carpenter to 3b, manage to make themselves older and WORSE defensively and then go sign some overpriced reliever (again) and call themselves contenders. They don't even try to hide it anymore. Their target is 88-90 wins and they're clearly not going to make any bold moves to get beyond that. This organization just doesn't have the stones to win a championship anymore. The Cubs have money and aren't run by idiots. Likewise the Dodgers. The Phillies may still be run by idiots but there's money and then there's MONEY. The Phillies have the latter. The Braves have arguably the deepest pool of young talent I've seen in decades. The Nationals even have a rich owner who doesn't care how rich he is when he dies so they'll keep throwing money at things. Hell, the BREWERS have passed us. And nobody in this franchise wants to do anything apart from sign an aging righthanded hitter so they can displace the one legitimate quality hitter we have on this team. Really looking forward to them all acting surprised when Carpenter's arm is hurting. This team is just so shockingly stupid. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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