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Originally Posted by Infidel Goat

YEAR OPS+
2007 90
2008 109
2009 87
2010 84
2011 140
2012 123
2013 103
2014 118
2015 119

When was his dropoff prior to resigning with KC exactly? I'll give you that his career year occurred in 2011, but there's little difference in AG in 2012, 2014, and 2015 (except he was injured).

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

This simply isn't true.

Put aside his breakout year of 2011, which is an outlier. His season-by-season OPS+ from 2012-15 were 123, 103, 118 and 119. His wRC+ over that period: 126, 104, 120, 122.

Before his injury in 2015, he was hitting .279/.394/.457/.852.

He had a down 2013, but his 2014 and 15 seasons were in line with 2012. So three out of four years he was consistently around 20 percent better than league average offensively.

I fail to see any detectable decline pre-injury.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It’s your prerogative to be wrong. Be my guest.

Alex Gordon had a career year in 2011 and a down year in 2013. His batting average drop coincided with teams beginning to shift against him in 2013.

His 2012, 14, and 15 seasons were very nearly identical, and his 2015 rate stats were his best since 2012.

Using BA as a barometer of a hitter’s worth is an outdated and foolish approach. He was a consistent .265-.270/.350 OBP guy in the three years leading up to the deal, production that was around 20 percent above league average. He was a top 25 (overall) offensive player in Baseball from 2011-2015 and top 35 from 2014-15.

Your narrative is driven by bias and disconnected from statistical fact.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It’s also worth mentioning that Gordon’s 10.7 percent walk rate in 2014-15 was 24th in all of baseball.

Get out of here with the “not a patient hitter” garbage.

He sucks now and likely will suck until he hangs it up. But get out of here with Your proclaimed foresight, Nostradamus.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

Are you saying there were wrong in his decline and projection to even have bigger drop in production years before you guys say it wasn't happening? His bat was declining prior to his injury in 2015.

I don't see why so many people are willing to defend the bat of present .200 hitter who has a gradual decline for many years now, and then act all offended as if it wasn't happening. Like this is new thing concerning his bat.

No. It isn't a new thing. it has been happening for years. Even years prior to his contract in 2016.

I have already stated that Alex's worth wasn't in his bat. It was his defense, hometown sentiment and putting butts in seats from his popularity locally.

Where's the delcine?