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Originally Posted by Superturtle
So, what would you have done differently? Only guy I can think of that we outright missed on would be Carr.
Its not like the current regime was unwilling to draft 1st round QBs either. We were pretty strongly linked to both Manziel and Lynch if I'm remembering things correctly.
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I've said it several times. It's the same basic premise now as it was in 2013:
Pick up a cheaper cast-off from another team (hell, even Chase Daniel) and lived with the slightly lower floor for a few seasons while they tried to find QB1. The Chiefs spent significant draft capital and significant salary space on Smith; if they spend half as much on a Carson Palmer or Chase Daniel or Ryan Fitzpatrick or Matt Moore, the team around the QB could have been improved even more.
The highlight of the Alex Smith era is the bombing of Houston in the playoffs, but literally any QB could have done that. The Chiefs could have handily won that game with the QB spiking the ball on every single play.
There have been some flashes here and there of the ability Andy Reid saw - the San Diego game last year, a half here and there, 3-4 games down the stretch in 2013 - but nothing consistent.
If they don't have Alex Smith on board, the Chiefs are more aggressive in pursuing Carr or Lynch or Bridgewater, etc. Maybe we still end up where we are now. No way to know.
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Originally Posted by Molitoth
Geno Smith had a lot of talent. Had he ended up in a different more stable locker room/coaching staff than with the Jets, who knows how he would have done?
Just because someone busts in 1 situation, doesn't mean he was destined to bust in ALL scenarios.
You think Mahomes is going to be a better player in the end with the Chiefs, or would he have the same results if he were draft by the Browns?
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^This.
Those who were pro-Geno at the time have stood by their reasoning without applying hindsight to it. In hindsight, yeah, he busted out. But sitting for 2-3 years while being tutored by Andy Reid, it might be an entirely different situation (and it is reasonable to suggest so).
But if you want to talk about liking him in 2013... at the time people were saying to pick him No. 1 overall, he was projected to go in the top 5-6. That had changed by the time of the draft, when it looked like he would be available at 2-1, and those of us who believed he had the raw tools to be an effective starter, with top 10-15 NFL QB potential, were still on board with drafting him at that lower cost.
Being wrong about a QB doesn't mean your reasoning behind liking that QB as a prospect is wrong. It's more nuanced than that.