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Old 12-17-2016, 01:35 PM   #604
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This was actually one of my favorite scenes in the film. When I saw Krennic's ship and the rivers of lava I said to myself "Holy shit! It's Mustafar and Vader's Castle!". That original Ralph McQuarrie artwork was always so awesome to me that to finally see it on film was incredible.

According to Pablo Hidalgo, this scene was in the script from the beginning, so much so that they alluded to Mustafar in the season finale of Star Wars Rebels Season One: "Mustafar is where Jedi's go to die".

I thought that scene carried so many implications that could affect and be explained in future spinoffs.

  1. This is the planet where Vader was "born". He effectively killed his wife, Padme, as well as his two unborn children.
  2. Obi Wan cutoff his remaining limbs.
  3. The Bacta tank! Was he in the tank because he had returned from another battle (which would be awesome) or did he foresee the future, which included another lightsaber battle with Obi Wan?
  4. Deep, psychological reminder: Vader needed to stay on Mustafar to constantly remind himself of the pain and suffering he caused and endured on that planet, which changed him forever. It made him focus on his hate for the Jedi.

I hope this all explored in future films but I can't wait to see the movie again today.
If they used the scenes to plant the seed and establish another Vader-centric stand alone film, okay. Otherwise, it's fanboi *wink* eyecandy for the purpose of this film.

I doubt we get a Vader tale on the big screen simply because that is some major heavy duty lifting to execute a great script that works within the continuity of the established films and doesn't involve a bunch of actors all far too old to reprise roles- though Tarkin is an epic digital achievement, I don't think it would be wise to lean heavily even more on multiple CGI reprisals.
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Perhaps a story that takes place right after Episode III would be the best window of opportunity? The addition of the standalone films certainly makes the absence of the original trilogy characters a much more feasibly acceptable premise now!

I'm not even saying I disliked it, but you have to agree it doesn't serve this story unless it is setting up future narratives.

Oh, and the 1 scene that really failed IMO was the sappy conversation between Jyn & Cassian about 3/4 of the way through when they're in the hanger (?). I seriously thought the dialogue sounded like they had Lucas come in and write the scene, because it was such a weak exchange between 2 otherwise smart characters who are both survivors of war in spite of tremendous personal loss. It was reminiscent of some of the Padme & Anakin dialogue.

I'm probably not referencing the scene all that clearly, so maybe someone else knows which scene I'm talking about and can better pinpoint it down. Either way, it's my minor quibble with an otherwise fantastic execution of the SWU standalone franchise.
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