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Originally Posted by Cochise
Winston has all the hallmarks of being a bad makeup player. Shoplifting,
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One incident.
Oh the humanity! Please provide a link on this.
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stupid behavior that isn't serious but shows he doesn't think before speaking or acting,
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taking liberties with women...
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Oh multiple incidents now? Do you have inside information?
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he thinks rules don't apply to him.
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Such as?
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He's been coddled at FSU and behavior that would have gotten players suspended or booted from other teams has been excused.
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False. He was suspended for the crab legs and did community service for time.
He was suspended for the student union incident which was BS. None of the students thought that mattered, because well others do it too. He was simply copying a meme. It only got blown out of proportion because of social media. Maturity issue for someone who has media attention on him? Sure.
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He has never been held to account for his actions and has always got the star treatment.
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People who resort to broad sweeping generalities are engaging in hyperbole to suit their own personal antagonisms. Ever hear an angry man tell the truth? They usually don't. Their anger gets in the way. Sociopaths resort to over generalizations when combined with some false reports.
"Always"getting star treatment? That's why he was punished for the crab legs and suspended? That's why he was suspended for the student union incident?
The reported facts do NOT support your claims. You must be a UF fan. Thye had Hernandez who had his record concealed regarding a gun incident where someone was shot, because he was still a youth. Now he's in legal trouble for double murder.
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People like this get to the NFL level and fail because they have never had to work for it before.
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Totally different matter than what's been said about Winston's guilt. True about many others and not true for many others as well.
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Teams don't care that he wasn't charged with the rape, or that FSU investigated itself and the same people who made the decision found that they agreed with the decision.
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More non facts and innuendo. FSU hired an independent judge for the hearing on Winston.
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He has a longstanding pattern of immature and irresponsible behavior so there is probably plenty to uncover.
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How longstanding has it been? Was he like this back at home in Alabama too? Please establish a factual timeline on this "longstanding" pattern.
I can see thinking he's immature and even irresponsible. But I've also learned from people who personally know him that he's known as a goofball. He jokes a lot. But he is well liked actually. Even the coach has said his enthusiasm drives the team and has had a good effect on it. So he possesses some leadership qualities at least.
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Someone will fall in love with his athleticism and make the same mistake teams always make on guys like this, they think they can step in and raise him. But a lot of teams won't even consider someone like this, especially at the QB position which already has the highest failure rate and is the most difficult to transition to.
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Yet, some will. Afterall, 20% of those in the NFL have been ghetto thugs. But it gives them a chance to get out of that. I don't know if that is the background of Jameis as he grew up outside Birmingham Alabama. Doesn't seem like it.
In the meantime, Jameis said the rape charge hurt his reputation. His legal team is also considering further legal action.
All I asked for in this thread, is for a certain poster to back a claim of multiple thefts and upset businessmen over such an allegation. I've not heard that. I prefer facts—not innuendo. I have no issue with Jameis needing to mature and grow up, as he is a celebrity figure and needs to act differently.