Let's talk about the Raiders
 

Chiefs open as early 8.5 point favorites.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Discuss.

THEY SUCK.

Do we need to cover anything else?

I'll be interested in seeing how well they play against the Jets this weekend. They're only favored by 2.5 points currently, so Vegas and the people laying money on the game clearly doesn't think very highly of them.

Well I don't think too highly of them either! :harumph:

They’ll be 6-5 entering 12/1.

This isnt exactly the Raiders team of the past few years but they do still have the same QB. The same QB that when its all in front of him, chokes.
I expect the same outcome whether its this week or next, maybe both.

Other than winning in Indianapolis, they've done more or less what one might expect. Got shellacked by the good teams, squeaked by the bad teams.

Even if they were legitimately good, Reid owns them. I'm never worried about a Raiders game in Arrowhead.

Their secondary will get raped at Arrowhead, just like they did in Oakland.

Oakland is a little bit interesting as they've found a recipe for success. Their offense is based upon clock control and not taking negative plays. I think Gruden has done a nice job in working with what he has and having Oakland in a spot where they are competing for the AFC West division and wildcard.

I don't think the Raiders can compete with the Chiefs when Kansas City is playing to their full potential but I don't know what Kansas City's full potential is anymore. Just seems like this team can't put it all together for one game. Either way I don't bet against Andy Reid coming off a bye- just hoping that the Chiefs can finally have a strong showing on both sides of the ball and give us some hope that we can make some noise in December/January.

I've hated them since 1963, so that's all I have to say.

I feel like the Jets will be a trap game for them. Everyone on NFL Network is sucking their cock right now talking about how great they are. They have to fly to the east coast and play a noon game. Jets are playing loose and had a good game against the awful Skins the week before.

I think the Faid will be looking ahead and might get upset in NY.

David Carr on the AFC West.


https://youtu.be/P52gkWVVykw

The Las Vegas Raiders will fail.

Carr is an idiot!!!

Gee, I can’t imagine why he might have a biased take on this. :rolleyes: