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htismaqe 02-12-2019 10:39 AM

My #1 draft target isn't a first rounder...what do we do?
 
Guys,

The more I think about it, the more I like Amani Hooker out of Iowa with one of our 2nds. He can play in nearly every base and sub package, as a S, CB, or LB, and brings much needed versatility (and thus, unpredictability) to the defense. As of right now, I think he's #1 on my wish list, despite likely being a 2nd-round pick.

That being said, if we were to get him, what do we do in Round 1? Jaylon Ferguson? DeAndre Baker?

The Franchise 02-12-2019 10:48 AM

I’m starting to accept the TE in round 1 argument.

Hoover 02-12-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14103045)
Guys,

The more I think about it, the more I like Amani Hooker out of Iowa with one of our 2nds. He can play in nearly every base and sub package, as a S, CB, or LB, and brings much needed versatility (and thus, unpredictability) to the defense. As of right now, I think he's #1 on my wish list, despite likely being a 2nd-round pick.

That being said, if we were to get him, what do we do in Round 1? Jaylon Ferguson? DeAndre Baker?

I always have to check myself because I'm a Hawkeye homer, but Iowa puts a lot of good DBs in to the NFL. I think he would be a solid pick and a game one starter, which is exactly what we need.

RunKC 02-12-2019 10:52 AM

I just saw he’s 6 ft 210 lbs. he’s got excellent tape and good size.

If he runs well he should be in the conversation for a late first rd pick. Might just take him at 29.

Honestly watching this guy he doesn’t look like he’s falling to the late 2nd.

DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14103061)
I’m starting to accept the TE in round 1 argument.

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DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14103067)
I just saw he’s 6 ft 210 lbs. he’s got excellent tape and good size.

If he runs well he should be in the conversation for a late first rd pick. Might just take him at 29.

Honestly watching this guy he doesn’t look like he’s falling to the late 2nd.

I haven't seen the aggression in him that I've seen in Adderley. He's a stout guy but plays like a true FS. Adderley plays more like that newer breed of combo safeties that can play either technique.

I think he's a fine FS prospect that I'd be okay with in the late 2nd but I wouldn't be a fan of him in the 1st. He's a more refined Watts to my eyes; that's fine, but it's not a 1st rounder.

htismaqe 02-12-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14103079)
I haven't seen the aggression in him that I've seen in Adderley. He's a stout guy but plays like a true FS. Adderley plays more like that newer breed of combo safeties that can play either technique.

I think he's a fine FS prospect that I'd be okay with in the late 2nd but I wouldn't be a fan of him in the 1st. He's a more refined Watts to my eyes; that's fine, but it's not a 1st rounder.

The scheme is read and react. Iowa plays cover 2 zone with a lot of base and very little nickel or blitzing.

So one of the safeties biggest jobs is not letting anyone get behind them. Then close and tackle. They don't want those guys to be overly aggressive, it leads to missed assignments or tackles and thus big plays.

htismaqe 02-12-2019 01:51 PM

And yes, Adderly is a guy that would be worth our #29. Hooker is somebody I would take at the end of the 2nd (if he lasts that long).

So if I'm passing on Adderly in the hopes of landing Hooker, who do I take in the first?

kccrow 02-12-2019 02:26 PM

If you package 61 and 92 you could get up to about 48 with the Dolphins which may put you in the Hooker wheelhouse IMO.

Double-Down on Amani's.
1. CB Amani Oruwariye, Penn State
2. DB Amani Hooker, Iowa

DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14103343)
And yes, Adderly is a guy that would be worth our #29. Hooker is somebody I would take at the end of the 2nd (if he lasts that long).

So if I'm passing on Adderly in the hopes of landing Hooker, who do I take in the first?

A TE or Baker.

Use the other 2 to move up into range for White, stay at 29 and take Wilson. I could see Cody Ford sliding and being the best available option.

And there are going to be some really good DL available at the back of the round as well. I have no idea who it will be or how they'd fit in the scheme, but it could be Ferguson, Sweat, Gary, Lawrence or Wilkens; any of them are possible as I doubt ALL of them go in the 1st.

There are lots of ways to go but Crow's right - if you make your pick in the 1st because you think you can get to Hooker in the 2nd...you'd better be right or you'd better be willing to burn a 3rd to move up. I'm not sure that I'm that confident either way.

htismaqe 02-12-2019 05:23 PM

Yeah, I know it's not all that realistic. Was just wondering.

Skyy God 02-12-2019 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14103076)
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Are you thinking an Aaron Hernandez-type to Kelce’s Gronk?

Kyle DeLexus 02-12-2019 08:27 PM

I'd be open to trading down at the end of the first. Maybe try to pull the old Patriot move of flipping a late 1 for an early/mid 2 and a 1 next year.

Chief Northman 02-12-2019 08:50 PM

Mocks are just that - but I have yet to see any mocks with Hooker being picked any earlier than mid-late 2nd round, and most have him going in the 3rd.

Solid player whom I like, but I just don’t see him as a high ceiling prospect.

Rain Man 02-12-2019 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14103395)
If you package 61 and 92 you could get up to about 48 with the Dolphins which may put you in the Hooker wheelhouse IMO.

Double-Down on Amani's.
1. CB Amani Oruwariye, Penn State
2. DB Amani Hooker, Iowa

That's many Amanis.


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