The flawed logic of Mizzou fans
 

You say tradition doesn't matter, yet you're so excited about ending your 30-year losing streak in Lincoln.

You say Bo Pelini sucks, yet Gary Pinkel was 9-14 during his first two seasons at Mizzou. Many Mizzou fans wanted him fired.

Something doesn't add up.

I'm not crying in my beer over Nebraska's loss last night. I told you how the game would unfold. I don't feel your pain. You can't get it all back in two years.

Tradition is the reason you're so excited. You want what Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma have. You are getting a small taste of it. A national title and a Heisman this season would only be one step. You must sustain similar success over decades.

I think Kansas State and Colorado have more tradition than Mizzou. K-State recently won a conference title. Colorado has a national title and a Heisman.

Pelini will need several seasons to turn around the program - just like Gary Pinkel and Mark Mangino needed. Nebraska has no talent on either side of the ball. The defense isn't fast enough to blitz effectively. The offense is overrated, and the play calling sucks. I hate some of their pass plays.

It's a process. Instant gratification wasn't going to happen. You know that from your own experience.

Last year's Huskers gave up and made tons of mistakes. This year's Huskers make mistakes because they're too aggressive. I'll take the aggression.

Callahan never would've apologized to the state like Pelini did last night.

Think about the things I have mentioned here.

Sounds like a load of crap of me.

even tho mizzou fans will never admit, this post is very true

Whatever makes you sleep easier after an ass raping...

Oh, and I just read this a minute ago, not sure if it's been addressed.

Interesting.


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...3?OpenDocument

Daniel says Husker spit on him
By Vahe Gregorian
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
10/05/2008

LINCOLN, Neb. — Between comments coming from the Nebraska camp and Mizzou's 30-year stretch of futility here entering Saturday's game, MU quarterback Chase Daniel said he already was as fired up as he'd ever been for a football game.

But when a Nebraska player spit on him in pre-game warm-ups, Daniel took it all the more personally.

"Nebraska was definitely one of the dirtiest teams I've (ever) played," Daniel said after MU's victory, adding, "You've got to settle it on the field, and I think we more than did that tonight."

The Huskers repeatedly hit him late, in addition to the unidentified player spitting on a helmet-less Daniel.


"I never (had that) done before. I'm not going to say who it was," Daniel said. "He knows who it was and that's bush league."

Daniel also said Nebraska players were throwing balls at Tiger players during warm-ups.

"They wanted to shut us down," he said. "I think that ended within a minute of the game (starting)."

Why would they?

I'm not a misery fan, and as I said, it's crap.

I will take a national championship and not apologize for it because we don't have a long tradition of being awesome. When was the last time Nebraska was relevant, Scott Frost maybe? So MU should still take a back seat to Nebraska after we slaughtered them? f*** you!

You'll take agression even if it means giving up tons of yards in penalties? In a more even match-up, that probably would have been the deciding factor in losing.

I'll admit that I'm unfamiliar with the traditions of college football. I know that Nebraska used to be a powerhouse. Last night, it seemed to me that Mizzou was more about revenge than it was tradition.

I've been known to be wrong, though. Just how I see it.

Bush league...**** Big Red....not even KU vs MU that shit would happen

kill yourself.

Sounds like a Pelini team to me. He doesn't have self-control, so how can you expect his players to exhibit self-control?

Your "tradition" left town with Tom Osbourne. Seems like you're having a tough time adjusting to not being the big bully on the block anymore.

That does sound like something a current Nebraska team would do.. hell even Osborne's teams would still be trying to score when they were up 70-3, but I doubt any of their kids ever spit on an opposing player. I have never really met a Nebraska fan I like.

Sam, it's not worth the trouble. Let it go.

Meet Bugeater or Alanm then.

I'll take "what would a loser Husker fan say?" for $1000.00 Alex.

Life's a bitch when this thing called parity comes around. Now you don't automatically get 9-10 victories a year and get the best players because you were good in the past. Now there is plenty of talent to go around and if you recruit good enough, you can beat anybody. I don't care if our logic is flawed. We won by 5 TD's and would have put 70 on the board if we didn't take our starters out at the end of the third quarter.

Maybe NU can try to get a spot in the tradition bowl at the end of the year and play some other mediocre has been like Notre Dame, Miami, FSU or Michigan.

Never met alanm, but Bugeater is cool as hell.

There is a lot of truth to this thread. MU fans are enjoying it while it lasts because they havent won a national championship in anything relevant for a long long long time.....if ever, I dunno, I havent been alive since 1900.

Basketball once was their respectable sport while Norm was around.....even though he didnt do anything great. He was the Marty Schottenheimer of NCAA Bball. And their football program has been terrible to average for many many years.

This year they finally have the pieces to make a run for a national title. Their offense is the best in the country (I think at least) they have 2 heisman hopefuls along with 2-3 all american players.

This is their year to do it all if theyre gonna do it because if they don't do it this season, they won't do it for a long time. They may come close, but this offense is taylor made for Chase Daniel......he knows the offense like the back of his hand.

Whats better is that MU can run the ball and they can run it well, which makes this offense nearly unstoppable.

But once Daniel, Maclin, and Coffman are gone, This offense isn't going to be anywhere close to what is was this and last season.

I made this same argument to my dad this past basketball season, I told him if KU is going to win a national title they better do it this season because they have the talent to do so and everyone would be leaving after the season regardless.

The same goes for MU fball this season.

MU gets a 5 star recruit here and there. Texas and OU are flooded with the best talent in the NCAA year after year. OU and TX are always ranked in the preseason, usually top 10.

Unfortunately I don't see MU being ranked at all next season.....at least to start out with.

I was going to post this too. What a joke.

Colorado has a completely bogus share of a national championship in '89. Everyone know that CU lost that 5th down game to a terrible Mizzou team that year to go along with a bogus victory against Notre Dame when that phantom holding call stopped ND's go ahead touchdown. CU finished the season with a loss and a tie while Georgia Tech ended the season undefeated without the the help of 2 victories given to them by incompetent refs.

This thread reminds me of the post-game Cutler quote.

the most pathetic sour grapes post ever...and i'm a ku fan


lose like a man, you emo goof....

and your HC is the college equivalent of Gunther Cunningham....think about that

rep

LMAO

Sam Hall can kiss my lemony fresh ass.

Well, Dicknose isn't going to turn anything around if he can't recruit. And seriously, other than kids from Nebraska, who would want to play for the Huskers right now?

Your team is basically the Big XII's answer to the Raiders.

Oh, and I almost forgot: :deevee:

ROFL. Someone should tell Sam there's no crying in football.

Just got home this morning and I knew it was going to be brutal on here...
But Tim... I expect better from you.

I have a really hard time believing that happened.
If it's true then heads should roll.
It will be addressed either way tomorrow in the conference call.

Pfft... Sam Hall's begging for it. Did you even read the original post?

if the spitting incident actually happened(why would anyone lie about that after the whippin they put on) it just shows more of the "bully" mentality that nebraska was known for back when they actually mattered. why pick the smallest guy on the field to spit on? go spit on a linebacker of lineman

What, you think Daniel just made it up?

Why would he do that?

:spock:

Uh...

How about not spitting on anyone?

Whatever.

It's like being a 40 year old virgin and then banging two Maxim cover girls in the same night.

You can talk and yap all you want about the last 40 years but all I hear is the teacher from the Peanuts cartoons over my happy glow of satisfaction...

If it really happened there will be repercussions and a player suspended. That shit won't be tolerated by Pelini or Osborne.
Like I said I'm sure it's already being looked into and will be addressed in the conference call tomorrow.

why not? because nebraska doesnt know any better obviously.
I wasnt condoning it just sayin that IF you are gonna spit at least pick someone who is big enough to stand up. chase did in the game sure enough

Why would chase lie? The guy has credibility and isn't the type to throw a team under a bus or anything unless its legit.

if there's no video do you actually think the god(osbourne) or the dummy will admit to it?

Nebraska isn't a bully of anything, if you can't beat em, spit on em?

obviously you havent watched big 12 or big 8 football for long, nebraska was the conference bully for years and its nice to see some get back for the other teams, mu killin them and last year ku killin them

One of the biggest criticisms of Pelini was that he's someone who has a hard time controlling his emotions--see: personal foul against VT. Just one example.

Is Bo an upgrade? Yes, I'd say he is, but he better learn to check himself to establish the proper tone for his program. If the head coach is a joke on the sideline, fans should expect the players to follow his lead.

Hey Texas Tech fans,

We used to be good, so don't get so excited.

:ksu:

Why are you so quick to assume that it's true?
Nebraska has no such history of Raiders type behavior.
Win or lose they play with class.
Just saying. If true I'm sure Osborne and Pelini will issue a apology tomorrow with the player making a statement.
It's how Nebraska rolls.

They haven't done shit in awhile, i don't consider them a bully, esp after that butt woopin and KU's 70 pointer on them last year. They were bullies when Tom Osbourne and the option mattered.

ROFL

Is this really how Pelini rolls? Does he seem like someone who is generally in control of himself?

Because there's no reason for Chase Daniel to make it up...

Jesus... he just put 52 points on you. Why would it even occur to him to make up a story like that? It doesn't make any sense.

You're like a parent who thinks his child can do no wrong.

thats why i said they had the bully mentality back when they actually mattered, look at the post

Because lying about something, which would lead to an unbelievable amount of negative publicity, is the best approach when trying to win the Heisman (a glorified popularity contest).

Did you read my post?? They aren't bullies of anything period??? What have those players actually done btw?? jack and shit! Tradition doesn't mean crap if you suck currently and have for awhile

He's got a lot of passion which I like. He needs to get his emotions under control. Like me it's an Italian thing. :D

Oz then why does it matter if they broke the streak last night if it doesn't matter?

wow, i never said they WERE bullies, maybe you should chill man, read my posts again and think about what i said. then MAYBE you will see that i basically said the exact same thing as you in different words.

I am chill dude, jus' sayin'

It's OKAY, as herm say's

It's a big 12 game and we haven't won. Why wouldn't anyone want to not break the streak? I wasn't worried about Nebraska, they haven't been a powerhouse in awhile...hopefully they do become good again and Mizzou stays that way as well.

just sayin what? the same thing as me then acting like im stupid?

I agree that you want someone who is passionate as can be. Hope for Husker fans that he learns to channel this in the most positive way possible.

I didn't say you were stupid, you said they were bullies, and they are not. Unless you mean "acting" like bullies. Im not the type to pile on you for no reason just cause other people think you act like a douche

I enjoyed watching Missouri play yesterday and will watch with interest when they play a highly ranked opponent.

You sure seem to have a lot of trouble getting along on here. It couldn't be you could it?

ok ok but what i originally said was that they had the bully mentality back when they mattered, and i dont try to act like a douche people just do that shit and ppile on when you have a differing opinion

Wow. Looks like Sam's got some splooge on his black skirt.

maybe but look back at this issue and you will see that he is totally misquoting me.

Quit being a Sam Hall about it.

ROFL who the hell is sam hall?

Then i have no problem, but these players weren't apart of those teams, that's all i was saying. Just because they were the UNI doesn't make them any good, and we know they didn't back anything up

:doh!:

heh

ROFL

ok agreed.

Yeah, you might actually try reading the thread.

Yeah, i was kidding.

Oh that's right, you're the guy that just messes with people.

**** you man, and i usually read all the posts in a thread before i say anything, just so you know.

little down after that ass whoppin you guys took yeaterday? hell i was in that thread before the whoopin got out of hand and you were civil.

Not really, I expected the loss. I don't recall not being civil though. But I did have a few last night.

What a fantastic game.

This Mizzou team is just flat-out dominant. But let's be honest, Nebraska is awful.

hell we were in the college thread for quite a while and yeah it was early.