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petegz28 01-14-2019 02:55 PM

Then & Now...Week 6 vs. AFCCG
 
There are some significant differences between the 2 games that are largely favoring the Chiefs imo.

1. Obviously it is at Arrowhead not Gillete + Chiefs

2. Josh Gordon will not be running around in the secondary + Chiefs

3. Kareem Hunt will not be pwning the NE D + Pats

4. Shaw (WHO?) will not be covering Gronk + Chiefs

5. Speaks will not be starting for Houston + Chiefs

6. Wylie will be starting for LDT - Wash

7. Ward will be playing at CB instead of whoever did in Week 6 + Chiefs

8. Lucas will be starting at Safety instead of ???? + Chiefs

9. (Edit) The Pats will not go with 0 penalties accepted + Chiefs

Those are some very significant differences for this game and primarily on the defensive side of the ball. Take away a couple of offensive mistakes in week 6 and we still win. Now bring it to our house with an improved defense, at least personnel wise.

FAX 01-14-2019 02:59 PM

All good points, Mr. peterz28. And valid ones, too.

It's also going to be -15 degrees Celsius. It was a little warmer in October.

They say the Cheaters like the cold. Somebody pull the plug on their bench warmers and let's find out.

FAX

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14038198)
All good points, Mr. peterz28. And valid ones, too.

It's also going to be -15 degrees Celsius. It was a little warmer in October.

They say the Cheaters like the cold. Somebody pull the plug on their bench warmers and let's find out.

FAX

I really don't think the cold will play a huge factor against them in and of itself. Now, we start punching them in the mouth and suddenly freezing your ass off while losing a game starts getting in your head....

Zebedee DuBois 01-14-2019 03:07 PM

Overall i'm optimistic.

My one worry is the slow drives NE was putting on the bolts. Time consuming, wearing out the defense, keeping PM2 off the field.

But, again, overall optimistic.

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 14038224)
Overall i'm optimistic.

My one worry is the slow drives NE was putting on the bolts. Time consuming, wearing out the defense, keeping PM2 off the field.

But, again, overall optimistic.

The Chargers invited that by running out 6 & 7 DB defenses. Brady saw that and they pounded the ball on the ground as they should have. Then again, I was saying during the Ravens\Chargers game that Brady was going to carve the Chargers defense apart. So what he did was expected for the most part.

Mile High Mania 01-14-2019 03:18 PM

Biggest change has to come from how KC opens the game...

FG, INT, FG, FG, INT... halftime

That's just not the way to do it vs the Patriots and while fighting back from that deficit of 24-9 was valiant, the defense has to own the first half.

At the end of the day, Brady and that team are hell for anyone... they're not as great as they have been, but they're far from terrible.

Lost @ NEP on a late FG... if KC gets a TD on one of those first 5 drives, it's a different ending most likely.

This is Brady's 8th consecutive AFCCG... Mahomes was in the 8th grade the last time Brady wasn't playing for the right to go to the SB. But, the history is of little importance to him and for good reason.

I think KC wins it by 13 on Sunday. I think it will be close early in the 4th, but something breaks with about 5 minutes left and a 6 point KC lead grows to 13 with the game ending on a Brady INT late.

There you go.

big nasty kcnut 01-14-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 14038268)
Biggest change has to come from how KC opens the game...

FG, INT, FG, FG, INT... halftime

That's just not the way to do it vs the Patriots and while fighting back from that deficit of 24-9 was valiant, the defense has to own the first half.

At the end of the day, Brady and that team are hell for anyone... they're not as great as they have been, but they're far from terrible.

Lost @ NEP on a late FG... if KC gets a TD on one of those first 5 drives, it's a different ending most likely.

This is Brady's 8th consecutive AFCCG... Mahomes was in the 8th grade the last time Brady wasn't playing for the right to go to the SB. But, the history is of little importance to him and for good reason.

I think KC wins it by 13 on Sunday. I think it will be close early in the 4th, but something breaks with about 5 minutes left and a 6 point KC lead grows to 13 with the game ending on a Brady INT late.

There you go.

Stop that reverse mojo shit!

RINGLEADER 01-14-2019 03:25 PM

Why is Wylie starting for LDT a negative for the Redskins?

RINGLEADER 01-14-2019 03:26 PM

Honestly guys I think we come out and put the Pats and Brady back on their heels early just like we did to the Colts. If Brady can’t impose himself early and/or has any kind of rush coming at him the game is over.

RINGLEADER 01-14-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14038198)
All good points, Mr. peterz28. And valid ones, too.

It's also going to be -15 degrees Celsius. It was a little warmer in October.

They say the Cheaters like the cold. Somebody pull the plug on their bench warmers and let's find out.

FAX

In my past experience at Arrowhead when it gets that cold it starts to sap the energy out of the Arrowhead crowd. Hopefully Mahomes keeps us warm with his nuclear-powered arm.

wazu 01-14-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 14038296)
In my past experience at Arrowhead when it gets that cold it starts to sap the energy out of the Arrowhead crowd. Hopefully Mahomes keeps us warm with his nuclear-powered arm.

Gonna guess that the people who brave the weather for this showdown will tend to be the more relentless of our ilk.

Mile High Mania 01-14-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 14038277)
Stop that reverse mojo shit!

No reverse mojo... I have zero desire to see the Patriots advance. None. If that means that you guys get to enjoy your team playing for the title, so be it. I don't gain anything from either outcome, but would like to see someone not named the Patriots play for the title. And, as I've said before - you guys should be able to enjoy watching your team win it all.

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 14038296)
In my past experience at Arrowhead when it gets that cold it starts to sap the energy out of the Arrowhead crowd. Hopefully Mahomes keeps us warm with his nuclear-powered arm.

Yeah but this is the most critical game in Chiefs' history ..at least since the last time we went to the SB.

First AFCCG ever at KC
Win and you're in
Mahomes


this crowd will be absolutely crazy as ****!

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:35 PM

And here is one intangible most are not talking about which I understand...

The pressure is on Brady, not Mahomes. If the Chiefs lose they can say "well hey, it took the greatest QB that ever played the game to beat us". There is no shame is saying you lost an AFCCG to Tom Brady and the Pats. It's not like you lost it to even Ben The Rapist or Luck or even Manning for that matter.

That all being said, Brady has the pressure on him to win on the road and not let a 23 year old kid school his ass.

Mile High Mania 01-14-2019 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14038328)
And here is one intangible most are not talking about which I understand...

The pressure is on Brady, not Mahomes. If the Chiefs lose they can say "well hey, it took the greatest QB that ever played the game to beat us". There is no shame is saying you lost an AFCCG to Tom Brady and the Pats. It's not like you lost it to even Ben The Rapist or Luck or even Manning for that matter.

That all being said, Brady has the pressure on him to win on the road and not let a 23 year old kid school his ass.

This... last time the Patriots played a road playoff game and won was @ Chargers in 2006. He lost to Manning on the road in the AFCCG in 2006, 2013 and 2015. They've enjoyed a nice playoff home stretch, that's over.


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