We all know what happened. It’s on Mahomes.
Fact is, Mahomes hits those early throws he missed that were obvious TD’s and we change the ballgame with Hunt pounding them to death, defense be damned. Gotta jump out early every game. Opens up all the trickery bullshit that other teams can’t defend.
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I think so too, yes.
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My thoughts too.
We know the defense can’t and won’t win us games. The offense can’t put themselves in a hole early. We do that and other teams can commit to running the ball. It’s a recipe for disaster. |
We fought back that was impressive and will take this as a stepping game.
Mahomes first half jitters but this is now behind him he did overcome in the second half if only he had the ball last. |
My answer is honestly the same when people blamed Alex for the Colts playoff loss. You just can't blame the offense when they score 40 points. They could have done things better sure, but you just are rolling the dice when you give up 43 points. You cannot expect the offense to be absolutely perfect and score 50-60 points. That is asking a lot of Mahomes, Brady, Manning, any of them.
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Major game mismanagement near the end didn’t help.
Let Gronk score. Try covering a running back. Hitchens and Ragland are huge misfits out there. But yes, Mahomes left some plays on the field. Kudos to the OL for battling with now two starters out. |
The entire offense was just off during the first half.
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I'm literally not even mad at this loss, and I'm usually inconsolable after we lose.
Pat played like garbage for like the first 28 minutes of this game and we STILL put up 40 points and STILL could have beaten the Pats in a game they didn't get called for a single ****ing penalty (bull****ingshit). The Pats need to bring their A game to beat us. If we bring our A game for 4 quarters, we rout any team in the league not named the Rams. |
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If Mahomes simply throws that ball away before halftime instead of an INT we get a FG.
Would have probably led to overtime. |
it wasn't the throw he missed. That God Damn INT
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It's part of it. But the mistakes were made early and were for the most part nullified by taking the lead. The main issue with this team is the defenses inability to hold anyone under 30. You simply can not expect your offense to pull you through time and time again. The defense HAS to make a stop from time to time. But that is not happening. Especially in crucial moments. Sutton being out schemed is the core of the problem. It has to be addressed or there will be more games like this.
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The field goal to end the first half was key. The pick on their end was bad. That's about it. Everybody misses throws.
This team will lose every time if they try to 'pound the ball'. That's exactly the wrong approach with this defense, not to mention the league rules. Don't change anything with the offense. Just learn from the mistakes |
I'm kinda glad to get a L to keep us hungry for the W and not get big headed and have this as a tool to learn from.
There is a lot of football left to be played. Also we were missing the Doc and Devey was at center. We did remarkable for having a MASH unit |
We win that game at Arrowhead.
That's our mission. Get the 1 seed. |
Mahomes "This is where sitting behind Alex smith helped me, he taught me how to cope with loses"
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Mahomes scored 40 points. Mahomes has no blame. Zero. It's on the defense and the referees.
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Mahomes is fine. Andy punting the ball with this defense is a problem.
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Eh. The recipe to win in Foxboro can't be praying that your QB can lead your team to 44 points.
To me this feels like when people blamed the defense for our loss against the Steelers. |
**** that, we put up a 40 burger and lost. Its only happened something like 13 times in the history of the NFL.
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How can a defense be that ****ing bad.
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It's all FAX fault
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The Patriots never punted. Not once.
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Definitely.
The good news is this is his 7th start as an NFL QB. Those mistakes will start to fade away. In any case, I'm okay if this is how we had to get our first loss. Riddled with injuries (including two guys on the OL) on the road against Belicheat just as that team is finding their stride. He got his mistakes out early, and did a ****ing amazing job mounting an attempted comeback. Much better than putting up a WTF? kind of loss to the Raiders or some shit like that. |
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As far as Pat goes, we all know he is going to have his struggles yet he put up 40 pts. |
Andy Reid= my defense is fine.
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Huh? Pat's played like garbage the first 28 mins of the game? You mean they played like garbage and we're still up on us 24-9. What does that say about us? |
It’s a team game. You can’t just blame one player.
Yes Mahomes made mistakes but The defense couldn’t make the stops when it truly mattered. Team loss. |
I have no words for this stupidity.
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Biggest stage in the NFL you can expect some jitters. Then you put up 40.
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Come on... This is his first season starting...he will miss some throws when he's pumped up at the beginning of big games...He had a lot of pressure due to disguised blitzes...
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He's really been struggling with his accuracy. He can't seem to actually throw an accurate deep ball unless its a busted coverage, and even then the guy has to jump up and try to wrangle his wild pass. If he can get a handle on that, its really going to improve what this offense can do because right now we are still leaving a lot on the field.
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The _efense gives up 43 ****ing points and it's on Mahomes? LMAO
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We allow 43 points yet people blame "only Mahomes?"
ROFL Don't compare it to the Colts playoff loss. Alex Smith put up 31 first half points a Mahomes put up 31 second half points I always want my QB to shine late. This game makes me love Mahomes more |
We had a lead in the fourth quarter, so I can't really blame Mahomes.
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Mahomes will tighten it up.
All we have to do is not lose again and tonight's game doesn't matter. |
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Don't try to match up with the skill positions. See if you can generate a quarter or so of confusion and jitters to stake a lead. Then be plodding and methodical on offense. Take your time, the opportunities will ALWAYS be there. |
Bellicheck had 10 days to prepare for this team and he needed every damn minute of it. Our boys looked good. Speaks gave up on that sack because he was afraid of a penalty and thought the ball was out. He'll learn too.
But this defense is horrid. Is it really all Sutton, or the players, or both? Either way, it has to be fixed before we think about going anywhere meaningful. Go Chiefs! Helluva game, and I don't think anyone will say "See, they totally suck". Pats fans were shitting themselves because we could have won that game. |
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Royce knows the problem, you guys scored too fast in the 2nd half. Could not close out the game when you tie it with over 3:00 minutes to go then give the Pats the ball back with a tie game and 3:00 to go for the FG drive to win the game.
Royce knows what I am talking about from 2013. |
I've seen Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers miss wide open throws... it happens. It sucks, but it's reality.
Really the only thing that was disappointing from Mahomes was the INT into double coverage in the end zone. While those 3 points seems like very little before the half, they turned out to be big. This team has a ton to learn on the tape review. |
If the offense needs to be so perfect that 40 points doesn't win you a game then we might as well make this thread right now for the playoff game because you aren't winning a SB if you have to be perfect on offense.
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Its a shame he has to be near perfect to win. 40 points on the road and it wasnt enough. Pathetic D.
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How many times did the Patriots punt?
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Mahomes is Cutler right? |
Even if it was, I don't give a ****. Great loss.
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We don't know how the rest of the game goes if he hits the throws, dumbass. gave up 4 on the first possession and 3 to end the half. Boo ****ing hoo, bitch. He's missed throws every ****ing game. But he's finding the right throws every ****ing game.
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This is a parody thread, right? Okay, l'll play.
We should work out a three-team trade. Mahomes for Alex Smith.and Patrick Peterson. Hoo hah! |
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Hey, all of you sackless ****wads that are bitching about Mahomes can go be Redskins fans...
Make sure and watch the replay of the Monday night Saints game from last week. |
That was the polar opposite of the way Alex blew games. It was completely valid to share the blame when the offense couldn't sustain drives much less score points to win a game, regardless of what the defense was doing. Whereas this was Mahomes screwing up early and then gutting the team back into the game. He took a lead with 2 minutes to go. Can't really blame them for scoring too fast, really.
Alex would get a big halftime lead and then fart it away for 30 minutes. End result was the same but today gives some real reason for hope. Alex might not have done what Pat did in the first half, but he simply can't do what Mahomes did after halftime. I just hope we don't get crushed by Cinci Sunday. We've had a rough stretch of games and they're a good team we could easily overlook. We're overdue one of those flat, disappointing classic midseason Andy Reid games. |
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I have to agree. Blaming Mahomes tells me none of you bitching watch the nfl. He played better than most qbs today and lost. Shit happens.
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We had no business being in that game in the second half. Foxboro is still one of the toughest places in the league to win on the road.
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Yes, Pat was off in the first half, but to score 40 points in a football game, that should always get you a win.
****ing Veach and the chiefs front office assembled this abortion of a defense. ****ing Greg Robinson just called, and he wants his 2003 defense back. |
Chunt put Veach on the hot seat. So far Veach's moves have failed to deliver a mediocre defense. Aim your arrows at Chunt and Veach.
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I know we wanna bag on Mahomes first half, but perspective:
Pat has started 7 games in his young NFL career. He has won them all except this one, which was a 3 point loss in New England. Yeah, he left some points on the field in the first half and made some mistakes, but the kid is 23 years old. The future is VERY bright. Wouldn’t trade Mahomes for any QB in the league! |
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It’s still on Mahomes. He could have changed the whole game. Give the defense a break with the ability to actually use ****ing Hunt.
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You have a 23 year old kid in the biggest game of his career against the GOAT QB and HC of all time. He made a couple of mistakes and bounced back to take the lead. I think your expectations are a little out of control. I feel sorry for your kids. |
Mahomes made two very big mistakes in this game.
The defense made dozens. Yeah, obviously Mahomes mistakes were costly, but I’ll take those two mistakes along with 40 points to win basically any game where his defense is competent. |
BULL ****ING SHIT this is not on Mahomes. Offense put up 40 points.
Defense did not force a single ****ING PUNT ALL GAME. |
I assumed OP was being sarcastic.... What a ****ing moron.
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Dumb.
I'll take the start Mahomes has had. Loss and all. |
There is no logical reason you can blame Mahomes for this loss. The kid had a few jitters to start, but he brought us back and even gave us a 4th quarter lead. This game rest squarely on Sutton and that defense for not being able to get a single stop when it was needed. Also how do you play gronk 1 on 1 with the game on the line. Mahomes was fine and how you can think otherwise is just confusing to me.
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