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Sofa King 10-14-2018 09:37 PM

We all know what happened. It’s on Mahomes.
 
Fact is, Mahomes hits those early throws he missed that were obvious TD’s and we change the ballgame with Hunt pounding them to death, defense be damned. Gotta jump out early every game. Opens up all the trickery bullshit that other teams can’t defend.

TLO 10-14-2018 09:38 PM

I think so too, yes.

smithandrew051 10-14-2018 09:39 PM

My thoughts too.

We know the defense can’t and won’t win us games. The offense can’t put themselves in a hole early. We do that and other teams can commit to running the ball. It’s a recipe for disaster.

Rasputin 10-14-2018 09:40 PM

We fought back that was impressive and will take this as a stepping game.


Mahomes first half jitters but this is now behind him he did overcome in the second half if only he had the ball last.

tk13 10-14-2018 09:40 PM

My answer is honestly the same when people blamed Alex for the Colts playoff loss. You just can't blame the offense when they score 40 points. They could have done things better sure, but you just are rolling the dice when you give up 43 points. You cannot expect the offense to be absolutely perfect and score 50-60 points. That is asking a lot of Mahomes, Brady, Manning, any of them.

Chief Northman 10-14-2018 09:41 PM

Major game mismanagement near the end didn’t help.
Let Gronk score. Try covering a running back.

Hitchens and Ragland are huge misfits out there.

But yes, Mahomes left some plays on the field.
Kudos to the OL for battling with now two starters out.

stumppy 10-14-2018 09:41 PM

The entire offense was just off during the first half.

ThaVirus 10-14-2018 09:41 PM

I'm literally not even mad at this loss, and I'm usually inconsolable after we lose.

Pat played like garbage for like the first 28 minutes of this game and we STILL put up 40 points and STILL could have beaten the Pats in a game they didn't get called for a single ****ing penalty (bull****ingshit).

The Pats need to bring their A game to beat us. If we bring our A game for 4 quarters, we rout any team in the league not named the Rams.

eDave 10-14-2018 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13817614)
I'm literally not even mad at this loss, and I'm usually inconsolable after we lose.

Pat played like garbage for like the first 28 minutes of this game and we STILL put up 40 points and STILL could have beaten the Pats in a game they didn't get called for a single ****ing penalty (bull****ingshit).

The Pats need to bring their A game to beat us. If we bring our A game for 4 quarters, we rout any team in the league not named the Rams.

Rams too.

RunKC 10-14-2018 09:42 PM

If Mahomes simply throws that ball away before halftime instead of an INT we get a FG.

Would have probably led to overtime.

Demonpenz 10-14-2018 09:43 PM

it wasn't the throw he missed. That God Damn INT

Abba-Dabba 10-14-2018 09:43 PM

It's part of it. But the mistakes were made early and were for the most part nullified by taking the lead. The main issue with this team is the defenses inability to hold anyone under 30. You simply can not expect your offense to pull you through time and time again. The defense HAS to make a stop from time to time. But that is not happening. Especially in crucial moments. Sutton being out schemed is the core of the problem. It has to be addressed or there will be more games like this.

keg in kc 10-14-2018 09:43 PM

The field goal to end the first half was key. The pick on their end was bad. That's about it. Everybody misses throws.

This team will lose every time if they try to 'pound the ball'. That's exactly the wrong approach with this defense, not to mention the league rules. Don't change anything with the offense. Just learn from the mistakes

Rasputin 10-14-2018 09:43 PM

I'm kinda glad to get a L to keep us hungry for the W and not get big headed and have this as a tool to learn from.



There is a lot of football left to be played.


Also we were missing the Doc and Devey was at center.


We did remarkable for having a MASH unit

Hammock Parties 10-14-2018 09:44 PM

We win that game at Arrowhead.

That's our mission.

Get the 1 seed.

Demonpenz 10-14-2018 09:44 PM

Mahomes "This is where sitting behind Alex smith helped me, he taught me how to cope with loses"

Rain Man 10-14-2018 09:44 PM

Mahomes scored 40 points. Mahomes has no blame. Zero. It's on the defense and the referees.

Why Not? 10-14-2018 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13817614)
I'm literally not even mad at this loss, and I'm usually inconsolable after we lose.

Pat played like garbage for like the first 28 minutes of this game and we STILL put up 40 points and STILL could have beaten the Pats in a game they didn't get called for a single ****ing penalty (bull****ingshit).

The Pats need to bring their A game to beat us. If we bring our A game for 4 quarters, we rout any team in the league not named the Rams.

I'm not so sure we don't rout the Rams. They have hardly looked like world beaters the past two weeks.

kcpasco 10-14-2018 09:44 PM

Mahomes is fine. Andy punting the ball with this defense is a problem.

Chiefspants 10-14-2018 09:44 PM

Eh. The recipe to win in Foxboro can't be praying that your QB can lead your team to 44 points.

To me this feels like when people blamed the defense for our loss against the Steelers.

hometeam 10-14-2018 09:45 PM

**** that, we put up a 40 burger and lost. Its only happened something like 13 times in the history of the NFL.

Mecca 10-14-2018 09:45 PM

How can a defense be that ****ing bad.

Rasputin 10-14-2018 09:45 PM

It's all FAX fault

Nixhex 10-14-2018 09:45 PM

The Patriots never punted. Not once.

RealSNR 10-14-2018 09:45 PM

Definitely.

The good news is this is his 7th start as an NFL QB. Those mistakes will start to fade away.

In any case, I'm okay if this is how we had to get our first loss. Riddled with injuries (including two guys on the OL) on the road against Belicheat just as that team is finding their stride. He got his mistakes out early, and did a ****ing amazing job mounting an attempted comeback.

Much better than putting up a WTF? kind of loss to the Raiders or some shit like that.

dirk digler 10-14-2018 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13817593)
My answer is honestly the same when people blamed Alex for the Colts playoff loss. You just can't blame the offense when they score 40 points. They could have done things better sure, but you just are rolling the dice when you give up 43 points. You cannot expect the offense to be absolutely perfect and score 50-60 points. That is asking a lot of Mahomes, Brady, Manning, any of them.

Yep. When your d can't force a team to punt once and give up 43 pts this is all on them

As far as Pat goes, we all know he is going to have his struggles yet he put up 40 pts.

kcpasco 10-14-2018 09:46 PM

Andy Reid= my defense is fine.

Abba-Dabba 10-14-2018 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13817614)
I'm literally not even mad at this loss, and I'm usually inconsolable after we lose.

Pat played like garbage for like the first 28 minutes of this game and we STILL put up 40 points and STILL could have beaten the Pats in a game they didn't get called for a single ****ing penalty (bull****ingshit).

The Pats need to bring their A game to beat us. If we bring our A game for 4 quarters, we rout any team in the league not named the Rams.


Huh? Pat's played like garbage the first 28 mins of the game? You mean they played like garbage and we're still up on us 24-9. What does that say about us?

Deberg_1990 10-14-2018 09:46 PM

It’s a team game. You can’t just blame one player.

Yes Mahomes made mistakes but The defense couldn’t make the stops when it truly mattered.

Team loss.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-14-2018 09:46 PM

I have no words for this stupidity.

Chiefspants 10-14-2018 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 13817673)
Huh? Pat's played like garbage the first 28 mins of the game? You mean they played like garbage and we're still up on us 24-9. What does that say about us?

It's almost like we have a guy named Pat on the roster.

DRM08 10-14-2018 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 13817651)
Mahomes is fine. Andy punting the ball with this defense is a problem.

Onside kick would prevent the likes of Brady from running 7 minutes off the clock on 80 yard drives.

Graystoke 10-14-2018 09:47 PM

Biggest stage in the NFL you can expect some jitters. Then you put up 40.
Nah

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-14-2018 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13817624)
If Mahomes simply throws that ball away before halftime instead of an INT we get a FG.

Would have probably led to overtime.

Maybe but most likely they score a TD

kcpasco 10-14-2018 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13817659)
How can a defense be that ****ing bad.

Lots of defenses lost to Brady. Andy punting lost this game.

Kman34 10-14-2018 09:47 PM

Come on... This is his first season starting...he will miss some throws when he's pumped up at the beginning of big games...He had a lot of pressure due to disguised blitzes...

Sannyasi 10-14-2018 09:47 PM

He's really been struggling with his accuracy. He can't seem to actually throw an accurate deep ball unless its a busted coverage, and even then the guy has to jump up and try to wrangle his wild pass. If he can get a handle on that, its really going to improve what this offense can do because right now we are still leaving a lot on the field.

notorious 10-14-2018 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 13817651)
Mahomes is fine. Andy punting the ball with this defense is a problem.

BINGO

Dartgod 10-14-2018 09:48 PM

The _efense gives up 43 ****ing points and it's on Mahomes? LMAO

Best22 10-14-2018 09:48 PM

We allow 43 points yet people blame "only Mahomes?"

ROFL

Don't compare it to the Colts playoff loss. Alex Smith put up 31 first half points a

Mahomes put up 31 second half points

I always want my QB to shine late. This game makes me love Mahomes more

KC Hawks 10-14-2018 09:48 PM

We had a lead in the fourth quarter, so I can't really blame Mahomes.

dls6501 10-14-2018 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13817641)
Mahomes scored 40 points. Mahomes has no blame. Zero. It's on the defense and the referees.

I dont agree that he has zero blame. He definitely has some. But he more than made up for his mistakes. But unfortunately, a few of the misses early on proved to be costly.

RINGLEADER 10-14-2018 09:49 PM

Mahomes will tighten it up.

All we have to do is not lose again and tonight's game doesn't matter.

OnTheWarpath15 10-14-2018 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13817666)
Definitely.

The good news is this is his 7th start as an NFL QB. Those mistakes will start to fade away.

In any case, I'm okay if this is how we had to get our first loss. Riddled with injuries (including two guys on the OL) on the road against Belicheat just as that team is finding their stride. He got his mistakes out early, and did a ****ing amazing job mounting an attempted comeback.

Much better than putting up a WTF? kind of loss to the Raiders or some shit like that.

If the defense doesn't un**** itself, that type of loss is coming sooner or later.

Baby Lee 10-14-2018 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13817614)
I'm literally not even mad at this loss, and I'm usually inconsolable after we lose.

Pat played like garbage for like the first 28 minutes of this game and we STILL put up 40 points and STILL could have beaten the Pats in a game they didn't get called for a single ****ing penalty (bull****ingshit).

The Pats need to bring their A game to beat us. If we bring our A game for 4 quarters, we rout any team in the league not named the Rams.

It was a pretty effective blueprint the Pats laid out though, for any team that doesn't have a 'tard like Keesum or Blortles at the helm.

Don't try to match up with the skill positions. See if you can generate a quarter or so of confusion and jitters to stake a lead.

Then be plodding and methodical on offense. Take your time, the opportunities will ALWAYS be there.

InChiefsHeaven 10-14-2018 09:49 PM

Bellicheck had 10 days to prepare for this team and he needed every damn minute of it. Our boys looked good. Speaks gave up on that sack because he was afraid of a penalty and thought the ball was out. He'll learn too.

But this defense is horrid. Is it really all Sutton, or the players, or both? Either way, it has to be fixed before we think about going anywhere meaningful.

Go Chiefs! Helluva game, and I don't think anyone will say "See, they totally suck". Pats fans were shitting themselves because we could have won that game.

tk13 10-14-2018 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13817707)
We allow 43 points yet people blame "only Mahomes?"

ROFL

Don't compare it to the Colts playoff loss. Alex Smith put up 31 first half points a

Mahomes put up 31 second half points

I always want my QB to shine late. This game makes me love Mahomes more

It literally doesn't matter. If you score 40 points you should win the football game. I don't care if you score them all in the first five minutes of the game. There is absolutely no excuse for losing a game where your offense drops 40 points. Ever.

KranzDictum 10-14-2018 09:50 PM

Royce knows the problem, you guys scored too fast in the 2nd half. Could not close out the game when you tie it with over 3:00 minutes to go then give the Pats the ball back with a tie game and 3:00 to go for the FG drive to win the game.

Royce knows what I am talking about from 2013.

Molitoth 10-14-2018 09:50 PM

I've seen Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers miss wide open throws... it happens. It sucks, but it's reality.

Really the only thing that was disappointing from Mahomes was the INT into double coverage in the end zone. While those 3 points seems like very little before the half, they turned out to be big.

This team has a ton to learn on the tape review.

NJChiefsFan 10-14-2018 09:51 PM

If the offense needs to be so perfect that 40 points doesn't win you a game then we might as well make this thread right now for the playoff game because you aren't winning a SB if you have to be perfect on offense.

lcarus 10-14-2018 09:51 PM

Its a shame he has to be near perfect to win. 40 points on the road and it wasnt enough. Pathetic D.

Titty Meat 10-14-2018 09:51 PM

How many times did the Patriots punt?

Kidd Lex 10-14-2018 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13817649)
I'm not so sure we don't rout the Rams. They have hardly looked like world beaters the past two weeks.

Did you watch the game today? I think Todd Gurley might rush for 300 on us

kcpasco 10-14-2018 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13817741)
Royce knows the problem, you guys scored too fast in the 2nd half. Could not close out the game when you tie it with over 3:00 minutes to go then give the Pats the ball back with a tie game and 3:00 to go for the FG drive to win the game.

Royce knows what I am talking about from 2013.

I hope you die

Mahomes is Cutler right?

eDave 10-14-2018 09:52 PM

Even if it was, I don't give a ****. Great loss.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-14-2018 09:52 PM

We don't know how the rest of the game goes if he hits the throws, dumbass. gave up 4 on the first possession and 3 to end the half. Boo ****ing hoo, bitch. He's missed throws every ****ing game. But he's finding the right throws every ****ing game.

OnTheWarpath15 10-14-2018 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis (Post 13817759)
Did you watch the game today? I think Todd Gurley might rush for 300 on us

Mixon is going to destroy shit next week.

cdcox 10-14-2018 09:54 PM

This is a parody thread, right? Okay, l'll play.

We should work out a three-team trade. Mahomes for Alex Smith.and Patrick Peterson. Hoo hah!

DRM08 10-14-2018 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13817747)
If the offense needs to be so perfect that 40 points doesn't win you a game then we might as well make this thread right now for the playoff game because you aren't winning a SB if you have to be perfect on offense.

I said this after the Steelers game. It was basically a perfect game from the offense and they won by 5 points. Absurd.

Molitoth 10-14-2018 09:54 PM

Hey, all of you sackless ****wads that are bitching about Mahomes can go be Redskins fans...

Make sure and watch the replay of the Monday night Saints game from last week.

keg in kc 10-14-2018 09:55 PM

That was the polar opposite of the way Alex blew games. It was completely valid to share the blame when the offense couldn't sustain drives much less score points to win a game, regardless of what the defense was doing. Whereas this was Mahomes screwing up early and then gutting the team back into the game. He took a lead with 2 minutes to go. Can't really blame them for scoring too fast, really.

Alex would get a big halftime lead and then fart it away for 30 minutes. End result was the same but today gives some real reason for hope. Alex might not have done what Pat did in the first half, but he simply can't do what Mahomes did after halftime.

I just hope we don't get crushed by Cinci Sunday. We've had a rough stretch of games and they're a good team we could easily overlook. We're overdue one of those flat, disappointing classic midseason Andy Reid games.

Sannyasi 10-14-2018 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13817797)
Hey, all of you sackless ****wads that are bitching about Mahomes can go be Redskins fans...

Make sure and watch the replay of the Monday night Saints game from last week.

Its going to be really boring to be a Chiefs fan if we can never criticize anything that Mahomes does... Even Patriots fans will tell you that Brady has had bad games. Its not the end of the world.

Kidd Lex 10-14-2018 09:57 PM

I have to agree. Blaming Mahomes tells me none of you bitching watch the nfl. He played better than most qbs today and lost. Shit happens.

PunkinDrublic 10-14-2018 09:57 PM

We had no business being in that game in the second half. Foxboro is still one of the toughest places in the league to win on the road.

Baby Lee 10-14-2018 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 13817752)
Its a shame he has to be near perfect to win. 40 points on the road and it wasnt enough. Pathetic D.

It's not fair to him. Not fair to the offense. Not fair to us.

Coach 10-14-2018 09:58 PM

Yes, Pat was off in the first half, but to score 40 points in a football game, that should always get you a win.

****ing Veach and the chiefs front office assembled this abortion of a defense.

****ing Greg Robinson just called, and he wants his 2003 defense back.

cdcox 10-14-2018 09:58 PM

Chunt put Veach on the hot seat. So far Veach's moves have failed to deliver a mediocre defense. Aim your arrows at Chunt and Veach.

Why Not? 10-14-2018 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13817732)
It literally doesn't matter. If you score 40 points you should win the football game. I don't care if you score them all in the first five minutes of the game. There is absolutely no excuse for losing a game where your offense drops 40 points. Ever.

This. Ask any coach in the league what their record should be if they go into every game with 40 and all of them would say "16-0, dumbass".

PunkinDrublic 10-14-2018 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13817776)
Mixon is going to destroy shit next week.

Melvin Gordon is better than Mixon and we still beat the Chargers.

ThaVirus 10-14-2018 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 13817673)
Huh? Pat's played like garbage the first 28 mins of the game? You mean they played like garbage and we're still up on us 24-9. What does that say about us?

I don't mean to be rude, but are you ****ing stupid?

TomBarndtsTwin 10-14-2018 10:01 PM

I know we wanna bag on Mahomes first half, but perspective:

Pat has started 7 games in his young NFL career. He has won them all except this one, which was a 3 point loss in New England.

Yeah, he left some points on the field in the first half and made some mistakes, but the kid is 23 years old.

The future is VERY bright. Wouldn’t trade Mahomes for any QB in the league!

Why Not? 10-14-2018 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 13817816)
Its going to be really boring to be a Chiefs fan if we can never criticize anything that Mahomes does... Even Patriots fans will tell you that Brady has had bad games. Its not the end of the world.

Nobody's saying he's perfect. He certainly made mistakes this game, especially an end zone turnover, which is never acceptable. However, he battled back and had an amazing comeback and gave his D a lead with 3 and some change left. They promptly did absolutely nothing to offer any resistance

Sofa King 10-14-2018 10:02 PM

It’s still on Mahomes. He could have changed the whole game. Give the defense a break with the ability to actually use ****ing Hunt.

Sannyasi 10-14-2018 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13817915)
Nobody's saying he's perfect. He certainly made mistakes this game, especially an end zone turnover, which is never acceptable. However, he battled back and had an amazing comeback and gave his D a lead with 3 and some change left. They promptly did absolutely nothing to offer any resistance

Yeah the last few possessions by the D were really disappointing.

Molitoth 10-14-2018 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 13817920)
It’s still on Mahomes. He could have changed the whole game. Give the defense a break with the ability to actually use ****ing Hunt.

ROFL

You have a 23 year old kid in the biggest game of his career against the GOAT QB and HC of all time. He made a couple of mistakes and bounced back to take the lead.

I think your expectations are a little out of control. I feel sorry for your kids.

St. Patty's Fire 10-14-2018 10:09 PM

Mahomes made two very big mistakes in this game.

The defense made dozens.

Yeah, obviously Mahomes mistakes were costly, but I’ll take those two mistakes along with 40 points to win basically any game where his defense is competent.

mnchiefsguy 10-14-2018 10:10 PM

BULL ****ING SHIT this is not on Mahomes. Offense put up 40 points.

Defense did not force a single ****ING PUNT ALL GAME.

baitism 10-14-2018 10:11 PM

I assumed OP was being sarcastic.... What a ****ing moron.

Buehler445 10-14-2018 10:11 PM

Dumb.

I'll take the start Mahomes has had. Loss and all.

The_big_chief 10-14-2018 10:11 PM

There is no logical reason you can blame Mahomes for this loss. The kid had a few jitters to start, but he brought us back and even gave us a 4th quarter lead. This game rest squarely on Sutton and that defense for not being able to get a single stop when it was needed. Also how do you play gronk 1 on 1 with the game on the line. Mahomes was fine and how you can think otherwise is just confusing to me.


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