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Who is the Chiefs first Defensive pick in the draft?
What position is needed most?
S, CB, LB, DT? OL and WR later depending on FA of course Prospects you like? |
Anyone or anything besides another DT.
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I wouldn’t mind that being our first 4 picks. I wouldn’t be upset of the order
S CB LB DL |
Don’t know much about them, but here is a list of prospects
SAFETY 1- Derwin James – (6-3, 211) – RSO – Florida State 2- Ronnie Harrison – (6-3, 214) – JR – Alabama 3- Minkah Fitzpatrick – (6-1, 202) – JR – Alabama 4- Quin Blanding – (6-2, 210) – SR – Virginia 5- Tanner Muse – (6-2, 220) – RSO – Clemson 6- Damon Webb – (5-11, 195) – SR – Ohio State 7- Jordan Whitehead – (5-11, 195) – JR – Pittsburgh 8- Armani Watts – (5-11, 205) – SR – Texas A&M 9- Marcus Allen – (6-2, 205) – SR – Penn State 10- Jessie Bates – (6-2, 195) – RSO – Wake Forest 11- Chase Hansen – (6-3, 220) – JR – Utah 12- Andrew Wingard – (6-0, 209) – JR – Wyoming 13- Todd Kelly – (5-11, 200) – SR – Tennessee 14- Brandon Bryant – (6-1, 213) – JR – Mississippi State 15- Kieron Williams – (6-1, 195) – SR – Nebraska 16- Marvell Tell – (6-2, 195) – JR – USC 17- Godwin Igwebuike – (6-0, 212) – SR – Northwestern 18- Trey Marshall – (6-0, 210) – SR – Florida State 19- Drue Tranquill – (6-2, 231) – JR – Notre Dame 20- Mike Edwards – (6-0, 200) – JR – Kentucky 21- Javon Hagan – (6-0, 211) – RSO – Ohio 22- Chucky Williams – (6-2, 216) – SR – Louisville 23- Terrell Edmunds – (6-2, 220) – JR – Virginia Tech 24- Nick Washington – (6-0, 198) – SR – Florida 25- Van Smith – (5-11, 195) – JR – Clemson 26- Tyree Robinson – (6-3, 199) – SR – Oregon 27- Donovan Wilson – (6-1, 202) – SR – Texas A&M 28- Steven Parker – (6-1, 204) – SR – Oklahoma 29- Donnie Miles – (5-11, 210) – SR – North Carolina 30- John Battle – (6-3, 201) – JR – LSU 31- Dominick Sanders – (6-0, 200) – SR – Georgia 32- Sean Chandler – (6-0, 195) – SR – Temple 33- Justin Reid – (6-1, 204) – JR – Stanford 34- Kyzir White – (6-2, 216) – SR – West Virginia 35- Chris Hawkins – (5-11, 190) – SR – USC 36- JoJo McIntosh – (6-1, 219) – JR – Washington 37- Ed Paris – (6-1, 210) – SR – LSU 38- Tray Matthews – (6-1, 209) – SR – Auburn 39- Jamar Summers – (6-0, 190) – SR – Connecticut 40- Jonathan Crawford – (6-2, 203) – JR – Indiana |
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1- Tarvarus McFadden – (6-2, 198) – JR – Florida State 2- Denzel Ward – (5-10, 191) – JR – Ohio State 3- Jaire Alexander – (5-11, 192) – JR – Louisville 4- Iman Marshall – (6-1, 205) – JR – USC 5- Damon Arnette – (6-0, 195) – RSO – Ohio State 6- Kevin Toliver – (6-3, 204) – JR – LSU 7- Anthony Averett – (6-0, 185) – SR – Alabama 8- Donte Jackson – (5-11, 175) – JR – LSU 9- Quenton Meeks – (6-2, 197) – JR – Stanford 10- Tony Brown – (6-0, 198) – SR – Alabama 11- Deion Harris – (6-3, 180) – SR – North Dakota 12- Chris Westry – (6-4, 195) – JR – Kentucky 13- Jordan Thomas – (6-0, 185) – SR – Oklahoma 14- Greg Stroman – (6-0, 181) – SR – Virginia Tech 15- Rashard Fant – (5-10, 180) – SR – Indiana 16- Shaun Crawford – (5-9, 176) – RSO – Notre Dame 17- M.J. Stewart – (6-0, 205) – SR – North Carolina 18- Alijah Holder – (6-2, 191) – JR – Stanford 19- Juan Thornhill – (6-1, 200) – JR – Virginia 20- Joshua Kalu – (6-1, 195) – SR – Nebraska 21- Adonis Alexander – (6-3, 197) – JR – Virginia Tech 22- Carlton Davis – (6-1, 203) – JR – Auburn 23- Brandon Facyson – (6-2, 197) – SR – Virginia Tech 24- Chris Jones – (6-0, 195) – SR – Nebraska 25- Duke Dawson – (5-10, 202) – SR – Florida 26- Isaiah Oliver – (6-1, 195) – JR – Colorado 27- Heath Harding – (5-10, 190) – SR – Miami (OH) 28- Isaiah Langley – (6-0, 175) – JR – USC 29- Dee Delaney – (6-1, 193) – SR – Miami 30- Darius Phillips – (5-10, 190) – SR – Western Michigan 31- Nick Nelson – (5-11, 208) – JR – Wisconsin 32- Marcell Harris – (6-0, 208) – SR – Florida 33- Kareem Orr – (5-11, 195) – JR – Chattanooga 34- Vayante Copeland – (5-11, 190) – JR – x-Michigan State 35- Holton Hill – (6-3, 200) – JR – Texas 36- Deatrick Nichols – (5-10, 189) – SR – South Florida 37- Blace Brown – (6-0, 182) – JR – Troy 38- Aaron Davis – (6-1, 195) – SR – Georgia 39- Arrion Springs – (6-0, 205) – SR – Oregon 40- Kamrin Moore – (5-11, 200) – SR – Boston College |
INSIDE LINEBACKER
1- Cameron Smith – (6-2, 250) – JR – USC 2- T.J. Edwards – (6-1, 244) – JR – Wisconsin 3- Shaun Dion Hamilton – (6-0, 235) – SR – Alabama 4- Micah Kiser – (6-2, 240) – SR – Virginia 5- Azeem Victor – (6-3, 231) – SR – Washington 6- Josey Jewell – (6-2, 236) – SR – Iowa 7- Leo Lewis – (6-2, 235) – RSO – Mississippi State 8- Natrez Patrick – (6-3, 234) – JR – Georgia 9- Kendall Joseph – (6-0, 230) – JR – Clemson 10- Jack Cichy – (6-2, 234) – SR – Wisconsin 11- Rashaan Evans – (6-3, 234) – SR – Alabama 12- Jason Cabinda – (6-1, 234) – SR – Penn State 13- Kenny Young – (6-1, 235) – SR – UCLA 14- Andre Smith – (6-0, 240) – JR – North Carolina 15- Jordan Jones – (6-2, 221) – JR – Kentucky 16- Donnie Alexander – (6-1, 230) – SR – LSU 17- Nick DeLuca – (6-3, 245) – SR – North Dakota State 18- Auggie Sanchez – (6-2, 245) – SR – South Florida 19- Jahlani Tavai – (6-4, 235) – JR – Hawaii 20- Bobby Okereke – (6-3, 234) – JR – Stanford 21- Quentin Poling – (6-0, 231) – SR – Ohio 22- Otaro Alaka – (6-3, 240) – JR – Texas A&M 23- Andrew Motuapuaka – (6-0, 236) – SR – Virginia Tech 24- Nyles Morgan – (6-1, 235) – SR – Notre Dame 25- Keishawn Bierria – (6-1, 223) – SR – Washington 26- Connor Strachan – (6-0, 230) – SR – Boston College 27- Genard Avery – (6-1, 255) – SR – Memphis 28- Chad Whitener – (6-0, 240) – SR – Oklahoma State 29- Ro’Derrick Hoskins – (6-3, 240) – SR – Florida State 30- Peyton Pelluer – (6-0, 225) – SR – Washington State 31- Eric Boggs – (6-3, 236) – SR – Appalachian State 32- Reggie Carter – (6-1, 230) – SR – Georgia 33- Kevin Palma – (6-2, 248) – SR – Stanford 34- Taylor Young – (5-9, 225) – SR – Baylor 35- Deshaun Davis – (5-11, 246) – SR – Auburn 36- Jermaine Carter – (6-0, 228) – SR – Maryland 37- Junior Joseph – (6-1, 242) – SR – Connecticut 38- Stacy Thomas – (6-1, 242) – SR – Louisville 39- Matthew Adams – (6-1, 237) – SR – Houston 40- Jordan Williams – (6-0, 230) – SR – East Carolina |
If the Chiefs pick anything but the top ILB on the board with their first pick, Veech should be fired out of a cannon directly into the goddamn sun.
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As long as it's not another stupid pick like Kpass.
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Right now it's gotta be a cover DB. We play man-to-man coverage as much as anybody and it's failed us.
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Here are another sites prospects for LBs Linebackers 1. Malik Jefferson, Texas (Junior) Jefferson still has to show he can consistently stack and shed blocks, but nonetheless, he is still an unreal talent. With his freakish athleticism and sideline-to-sideline range, Jefferson is always around the ball making plays happen. Whether it is in coverage or run support, Jeffersons athletic tools allow him to be in position on almost every play. His instincts are underdeveloped at this point, but as he continues to learn and develop, there is no telling how good this kid could be. He gets the slight edge over Cameron Smith because of his ceiling despite projecting as a WILL, as opposed to Smith projecting as a MIKE. 2. Cameron Smith, USC (Junior) The best pure linebacker in college football is Cameron Smith, period. His instincts and awareness are unparalleled at the linebacker position, as he sees plays happen before the ball is actually snapped. For Smith, the game just comes easy to him, and I think he will adjust to the next level seamlessly in terms of processing. Some question Smiths limited range, but Ive seen him make plays all over the field. Some team is going to get their next defensive captain with this guy. 3. Jerome Baker, Ohio State (Junior) While not the athlete Malik Jefferson is, Jerome Baker is a force to be reckoned with in zone coverage. He is smart and rangy, able to make up ground and close on ball carriers in a pinch. He also needs to get stronger in order to improve against contact, but the NFL is going to value him as a WILL and try to keep him as free as possible, highlighting his strengths. 4. Roquan Smith, Georgia (Junior) Roquan Smith has made quite the statement so far in 2017, dominating in nearly every game as a superb off-ball linebacker for the Bulldogs. Some are calling him the next Deion Jones with his lack of size, but excellent mobility for the position to close and cover. If he continues to make plays at his current rate this season, there is reason to believe he will fly up draft boards. 5. Shaun Dion Hamilton, Alabama (Senior) While overshadowed by first-round inside linebacker Reuben Foster in 2016, Shaun Dion Hamilton is the next Crimson Tide linebacker that NFL scouts are going to value highly. His instincts and power are more developed than some of the names on this list, but he is not quite the athlete of Jefferson or Baker. The next three prospects: Josey Jewell, Azeem Victor, Tegray Scales |
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Cornerbacks 1. Tarvarus McFadden, Florida State (Junior) If you are banking on upside, length, and the value of a cornerback who can possibly match the Mike Evans and Dez Bryant receivers of the world in the red zone, McFadden is your guy. He is a jump ball eraser. His calling card is at the LOS in Press because of his superb length, but he also has the athleticism and COD skills to mirror in off man coverage. If he continues to develop his overall game, technique, and timing, dont be surprised if he ends up becoming a player similar to Xavier Rhodes. His upside gives him a slight edge over Alexander, but there is little to no gap because the latter is a plug and play starter inside or out. 2. Jaire Alexander, Louisville (Junior) My best comparison for Jaire Alexander has always been someone like Chris Harris Jr. because of his ability to play inside or out, press man, off man, and zone, despite his lack of size. His ability to change direction and transition seamlessly both laterally and vertically is what makes him so hard to shake. He is always on the hip pocket, and his calculated ball skills give him the chance to make a play at the catch point. One of the cleanest skill sets I have seen at the position in some time. Long-term durability is the question here. 3. Quenton Meeks, Stanford (Junior) Ive said it before, and Ill say it again: Quenton Meeks is one of the smartest and most instinctive cornerbacks I have ever scouted. You can just tell how much time he spends in the film room to get better at his craft. That is the kind of football player I want on my team. His timing at the LOS in Press is inconsistent, but his length and play strength cause major disruption. In Off, he is a calculated risk taker, and his ability to anticipate makes it seem like he knows the route better than the receiver. For a player his size at 62, he has uncanny quickness and COD skills to stay in phase on the hip pocket. The gap between the first two and Meeks is much smaller than one might think. In fact, I would grade them as 1A, 1B and 1C. 4. Adonis Alexander, Virginia Tech (Junior) The freak of this cornerback class is Virginia Techs Adonis Alexander. At 63, he simply overwhelms receivers at the LOS with his elite arm length and unreal play strength. There are several plays where he either throws somebody on the ground or into the sideline, just ask Zay Jones. He is wild and impatient, as he will grab if initially beat at the LOS. He is easily baited to lunge forward, but when he gets his hands on you, the play is over. Off man coverage is predictably a struggle for Alexander, but he is a smart Zone player, especially in Cover 2 where he is able to showcase his closing speed and reactionary quickness underneath. He is the wild card of this cornerback class, and the Combine is going to be huge for his draft stock. 5. Iman Marshall, USC (Junior) Iman Marshall is undoubtedly one of the most talented cornerbacks in this draft class. He has all of the tools. I just want to see him put it all together. He mauls receivers in Press, but gets away with a lot of grabbing and overaggressiveness. His back to the ball skill set is near the top, as he competes at the catch point each play with his superb length and leaping ability. His long speed is questionable, but he does recover quick in both Man and Zone to get back in position. Marshall is the boom or bust prospect of this class because of his lack of consistency, but if he can put it all together, watch out. The next three prospects: Duke Dawson, Isaiah Oliver, Carlton Davis |
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Safeties 1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama (Junior) Some may slot in Fitzpatrick with the cornerback group, but I think he is much better playing forward, as opposed to with his back to the ball. From timing, tracking and overall eye discipline, he is better suited as a safety than cornerback. He has the instincts, ball skills and dynamic range that scouts look for in a deep middle player, but he also has the physicality, closing speed and run support discipline that they also look for in a box safety. Fitzpatrick is the total package. 2. Derwin James, Florida State (Junior) Think of Jabrill Peppers with more safety experience when you hear the name Derwin James. He is crazy athletic, but his instincts and anticipation skills are still developing. His competitive toughness and physicality leap off of the screen, and you can just tell that his spirit is contagious. James is going to be a hot commodity at the Combine for both good and bad reasons because of his athleticism and injury history. 3. Ronnie Harrison, Alabama (Junior) Ronnie Harrison is the prototype strong safety. With his hard hitting style, downhill explosiveness and competitive toughness, Harrison is a plug and play box player at the next level. He is likely never going to be a single-high player, but he has shown value in man coverage. I could definitely see him matching up with the leagues move tight ends at the next level. There are some who see him as a similar player to Landon Collins coming out. 4. Armani Watts, Texas A&M (Senior) His teammate and fellow safety Justin Evans was drafted in the second round, but I believe Armani Watts was the better player on that Texas A&M team. He can ideally play both over the top and down in the box because of his well-rounded skill set. His closing speed is unreal, but he can get a bit overaggressive, especially with his angles. In todays NFL, the safety position is growing to be interchangeable, and Watts fits that mold. 5. Godwin Igwebuike, Northwestern (Senior) Godwin Igwebuike is one of my favorite players to watch on film because he brings it on every single snap. His calling card is in the deep middle as a centerfielder who can run sideline to sideline and play the ball in the air with his instincts, range and ball skills. On the other hand, he is also a reliable run defender who takes great angles and does not lunge too early on his wrap up. The Senior Bowl is going to be huge for his draft stock. The next three prospects: Brandon Bryant, Marcus Allen, Kyzir White |
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That band-aid is so cool and good that a guy with bubble gum for legs is still logging an excessive amount of snaps at ilb.
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My favorites at this point are Quenton Meeks at CB, Armani Watts at FS, and Azeem Victor at ILB. I don't think the first two are there unless the Chiefs get a 2nd by trading Alex or by trading up higher in the 2nd.
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CB/DB should be first, wouldn't mind ILB or OLB either.
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I feel that this draft is somewhat deep at corner. Nothing like last year, but decent.
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Gotta get more athletic in the front 7. Look at jacksonvilles front 7. Freaks everywhere
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Would love to replace our old Texas ILB with the new Texas ILB.
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Malik Jefferson is good, but I'm not sure he declares withoit a 1st round grade and we'll see if he gets one.
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Need to find a player who is an incredible talent but has something that drops them to the 2nd round.
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I would love to get Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia. He's basically Patrick Willis. Unfortunately, most mocks have him going top 15. If we could trade Alex and get him that would be sweet.
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Defensive prospects
DE’s http://walterfootball.com/draft2019DE.php Defensive Tackles http://walterfootball.com/draft2018DT.php Nose Tackes http://walterfootball.com/draft2018NT.php 3-4 Outside Linebackers http://walterfootball.com/draft2018OLB3-4.php 3-4 Devensive Ends http://walterfootball.com/draft2018DE3-4.php Outside Linbackers http://walterfootball.com/draft2018OLB.php Inside Linebackers http://walterfootball.com/draft2018ILB.php Cornerbacks http://walterfootball.com/draft2018CB.php Safeties http://walterfootball.com/draft2018S.php |
Uh Holton Hollywood Hill will be one of the first 3 cornerbacks drafted and I hope we trade Alex Smith to Jacksonville and use their first round pick to take him.
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Not having a first rounder hurts. Not sure if they try to trade up into the first.
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OLB or CB.
Still haven't found a guy to play opposite Peters and also haven't found Hali's replacement. |
Now that the season is over, I would say pass rusher is our most pressing need. Hali shouldn’t be back. Cannot count on Dee Ford.
Something is either wrong with Houston, or the rest of the nfl figured him out. It could also be the way he is used. A defensive coordinator that doesn’t believe him to be the next prime time would be great. If his greatest skill is rushing the passer, then ffs have him do it every time the QB drops back! Having your best pass rusher run down the field getting him tired in coverage doesn’t confuse a QB, it helps them. If you are an offense, you hope the defense takes away their own best pass rushing. Most teams aren’t that stupid. Anyway: Chiefs really need a couple pass rushers, CB, safety, DL, a stud MLB, OL, WR, And ffs, someone calling the plays who knows how to run the freaking ball, and use the freaking clock!!!! |
Knowing our luck they won’t pick anybody on D.
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With the limited draft choices, its going to be tough to make headway this year so I'm thinking a 3 year deal to get this D in any playoff shape whatsoever. |
No. 2 cornerback
You can argue that pass rusher is the most important, but it was the Chiefs’ cornerback play which frustrated me the most in 2017. The constant musical chairs of Darrelle Revis, Terrance Mitchell, Steven Nelson, Phillip Gaines and Kenneth Acker confused everyone and accomplished nothing in the long run. Looking ahead to 2018, I’m not confident in any of those guys being the Chiefs’ No. 2 CB. Mitchell is too inconsistent and gets burnt easily, Nelson belongs in the slot, Revis is too old and costs too much, Acker is a role player, and Gaines doesn’t even deserve a roster spot. Simply put, the Chiefs need to find a guy to start opposite Marcus Peters and need to stick with that guy for the whole season. They failed to find one in 2017. The team can’t take another year of indecision at the position. Pass rusher/edge defender This one is just as important as No. 2 CB. Dee Ford has proven himself to be unreliable even when he’s healthy, Frank Zombo is only good at stopping the run (except during the playoffs, apparently), and Tamba Hali barely sees the field. It’s possible that Tanoh Kpassagnon takes a second-year leap but the Chiefs can’t solely bank on that for 2018. Free agent pass rushers cost a ton so the best way to find an edge rusher will be in the draft, preferably in the first three rounds. Defensive tackle Bennie Logan is a free agent and probably won’t return unless he wants to take a massive pay cut. The Chiefs’ currently-rostered defensive tackles are Justin Hamilton, Josh Augusta, Mike Purcell and T.Y. McGill, and none of those guys are starting material. Allen Bailey and Chris Jones are mainly defensive ends so they aren’t the answer. Rakeem Nunez-Roches will likely be re-signed but he’s not a true DT either. The Chiefs will need to find someone in free agency or the draft to replace Logan. Safety depth Eric Berry will return in 2018 which is awesome, but 2017 showed that the Chiefs aren’t as deep at safety as they initially thought. Daniel Sorensen and Ron Parker both had a rough year. Sorensen is much better as a role player than a starter. Parker might end up getting cut to save cap room. It might be a good idea to draft a safety early to provide competition at the position and maybe replace Parker in the near future. Inside linebacker (if free agent ILBs aren’t signed) This depends on what the Chiefs do with Kevin Pierre-Louis, Ramik Wilson and Terrance Smith, all who are some type of free agent. My guess is all three will be re-signed. If that happens, the Chiefs probably don’t need to draft an ILB high, but could possibly spend a pick on one in the late rounds. Left guard/interior offensive line depth This one depends on whether the Chiefs will re-sign Zach Fulton who is a free agent. He did a great job in 2017 in place of center Mitch Morse and others so the Chiefs will probably try to get him back. Even if Fulton is signed, the Chiefs could use an extra guy to compete for the left guard spot. Don’t be surprised to see K.C. snag a versatile lineman in the middle rounds of the 2018 draft. No. 2 tight end competition This isn’t necessarily a need, but I’m just about tired of seeing the Chiefs rely on Demetrius Harris to catch passes in crucial situations. The Harris experiment isn’t working and it’s time for it to be over. I’d love to see K.C. find a tight end in the middle/late rounds or free agency to back up Travis Kelce. When Kelce went down during the playoff game, the Chiefs didn’t have anyone step up at the position as a pass-catcher. They need another reliable TE just in case. |
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Chiefs need to draft 2 CB’s, and 2 safeties.
When the chiefs had Peters at CB, they desperately needed 2 CB’s. One for slot, and another to play opposite Peters. They got Fuller to play the slot. So they only needed to get one CB to play opposite Peters. They then traded Peters and now need 2 CB’s. Same with safety. They needed to draft a S for other side and for Berry to groom for years. Last couple seasons, when Berry can’t play we are screwed. Very important to also need to get a couple pass rushers, and a NT On offense we need a OL G, TE and RB RB should be found the same way they found ware and west. Undrafted or 6th, 7th round. |
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I’m gona go with Veach making a trade up for Ronnie Harrison S Alabama
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54. Chiefs: Sam Hubbard, EDGE, Ohio State
78. Chiefs: Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State 86. Chiefs: DeShon Elliott, S, Texas 122. Chiefs: Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech 124. Chiefs: Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State |
Replace Ateman with a TE and I love that draft
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I’m thinking there’s a decent chance that Isaiah Oliver makes it to 54, so I’ll say him.
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BPA that fits a position of need. S, CB, EDGE
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One of these dudes.
Arden Key*, 3-4 OLB, LSU Height: 6-5. Weight: 260. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 2/24/18: Team sources think Key has high first-round talent and that he could be a devastating pass-rusher in the NFL. In a survey of league sources, Key was considered to be among the elite talents of this draft class. However, teams have major off-the-field concerns with Key and think they could cause him to slide in the 2018 NFL Draft. Key's off-the-field issues are similar to Randy Gregory or Tim Williams. While there are concerns, scouts also say that Key loves football and has worked on his own with pass-rushing guru Chuck Smith to develop his skills. Key has to interview extremely well in order to be a high pick, and team sources feel that Key has a much shot at panning out in the NFL if he goes to a secluded team like Green Bay or Buffalo to help keep him out of trouble. Key had a slow start to the 2017 season. He missed two games and had to work himself back into playing shape after shoulder surgery limited his offseason training. Midway through the year, Key started to return to being a dynamic speed rusher off the edge. A late-season knee injury also knocked him out of a few games. In 2017, Key totaled 33 tackles with four sacks and a forced fumble. He put together impressive games against Mississippi State, Auburn and Florida. Key made a sack to clinch the comeback win over Auburn. He was phenomenal against Alabama, and the Crimson Tide couldn't block him. 9/1/17: Key was one of the best players in college football in 2016. He recorded 56 tackles with 14.5 for a loss, 12 sacks, three forced fumbles and three passes broken up on the year. He flashed a ton of potential as a freshman for LSU, totaling 41 tackles with 6.5 for a loss, five sacks and one pass broken up. Key is a dangerous pass-rusher with excellent speed and the ability to bend around the corner. He is lightning fast off the edge and has a ton of upside to develop. Sam Hubbard, 3-4 OLB, Ohio State Height: 6-5. Weight: 266. Projected 40 Time: 4.78. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 2/24/18: In 2017, Hubbard collected 43 tackles with 13.5 tackles for a loss and seven sacks. He had good moments, but still didn't always play up to his great skill set and wasn't consistent enough. 9/1/17: In 2016, Hubbard collected 46 tackles with eight for a loss, 3.5 sacks and two passes batted. While rotating into the game as a sophomore, he showed his potential with 6.5 sacks. Hubbard also had 28 tackles with an interception. The senior could explode in 2017 as he has an early round skill set. Hubbard has a lot of physical talent, but he hasn't produced up to it. He could rise high if that changes as a senior. Harold Landry, 3-4 OLB, Boston College Height: 6-3. Weight: 250. Projected 40 Time: 4.67. Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 2/24/18: Multiple teams sources told me that Landry belongs on the second day of the 2018 NFL Draft. They labeled his senior year tape as not impressive. Landry had a big drop in his pass-rush production year over year and put together some ugly games in run defense. Sources say that Landry is smaller than his listed numbers of 6-foot-3, 250 pounds, too. They believe he is an inch or two shorter and weighs in the 240s, which makes him more of a linebacker's body type for the NFL. Teams that run a 4-3 defense have concerns about Landry holding up on the edge because he is very undersized to be a base end. More than one NFL source sees Landry as a second-round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. In 2017, Landry had 38 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks and two passes broken up. The senior missed a few games with an ankle injury late in the year. Landry was a liability versus the run against the Fighting Irish, recording only one tackle while Notre Dame ran for seven touchdowns and had two players exceed 200 yards rushing. On the vast majority of his plays, Landry went against a freshman right tackle, yet was ineffective. Landry also lost his few reps against Mike McGlinchey, plus got rag dolled by Quenton Nelson. It was an ugly performance for Landry. He was slightly better against Clemson. 9/1/17: Landry had an impressive junior season as an edge rusher for Boston College, recording 16.5 sacks, 22 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, four passes batted and 51 tackles. He contributed as a sophomore with 60 stops, and 4.5 sacks. Landry could fit best as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL. A general manager told me they thought Landry would have been a late first- or second-round pick if he had entered the 2017 NFL Draft. |
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If an edge guy falls to the chiefs at 54 I won’t be annoyed, but looking past the coming year corner and DL seem like bigger long term holes to be filled. I would almost rather this year was spent trying to see if kpass could be the starting edge guy once ford is gone, and if not draft a first rounder to pair with Houston the following year (2019 draft)
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I wouldn't mind trading up for Justin Reid. I think he's ****ing good.
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I like NFLDraftScout best for draft sites. Their player rankings have these defensive players available at pick #54: Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays St. (#55); Reid, FS, Stanford (#59); Hill, DT, NC St. (#63); Allen, FS, Penn St. (#67); Jackson, CB, LSU (#71). I'd go for BJ Hill, DT, NC St. at pick #54 because I like the safeties available in rounds 3 and 4 more than DTs available in rounds 3 and 4.
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Is Jeff Holland really predicted to go in the 4th? Thought he was expected to go much higher.
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2. Jessie Bates S Wake Forest
3. Frank Ragnow G/C Arkansas 3. Foley Fatukasi DE Connecticut 4. Ogbo Okoronkwo OLB OU 4. Quinton Meeks CB Stanford Thats my first attempt at a mock. Would be amazeballs |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marshall safety C.J. Reavis has a top 30 visit with the Chiefs on April 4th, according to a league source</p>— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/978366473184927744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Who is the Chiefs first Defensive pick in the draft?
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Harrison Phillips interest anyone?
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Harrison Phillips vs Quenton Nelson <a href="https://t.co/fN4FzjnR9P">pic.twitter.com/fN4FzjnR9P</a></p>— Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/979020987441274881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Heres phillips against Nelson. I'm a fan. |
He’s on my short list of guys I think we have a realistic shot at getting at 54
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Strip-sack on Josh Rosen by Harrison Phillips. <a href="https://t.co/n9Td8t5FdP">pic.twitter.com/n9Td8t5FdP</a></p>— Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/979022803209981954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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He looks like a really nice player. I like. |
I wonder if he can profile to much as a pass rusher though is my only concern.
But **** I like Stanford defensive players. They're smart and tend to have a nasty side. If/when Andy retires David Shaw is on a very short list of head coaches I'd bring in. |
Found out about this kid in January
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...rison+Phillips Love him and would be thrilled to get him at 54. Kinda gave up on him bc I thought he was out of reach. |
I thought I remembered a thread about him somewhere.
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I'm seeing a lot of 2nd round on him. I think he's better than Taven Bryant.
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I’d shit if Phillips lasts til pick 54
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Phillips played NT part time at Stanford and held his own. Also held his own vs Quinton Nelson.
42 bench reps and a 7.28 3 cone This dude would immediately help in run defense and the pass rush in the nickel. |
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ANy concerns there on that? |
I want to watch some PJ Hall tonight. Monster combine numbers and college stats
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