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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember this guy? �� He’s headed to the Kansas City Chiefs. <a href="https://t.co/H9Pqq8jPJS">pic.twitter.com/H9Pqq8jPJS</a></p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/990024562191556609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs give up No. 54 and No. 78, get No. 46 and No. 100</p>— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/990019355592351744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said Speaks will mostly likely begin his career as a OLB rather than DE.</p>— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/990024662628425729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Overview
Speaks finished strong in his final year in Oxford, sacking the quarterback six times in the team's final six games from the defensive end position. He started all 12 games for the Rebels in 2017, posting 67 tackles, eight for loss which included seven sacks to garner second-team All-SEC by league media. The Jackson, Mississippi native and four-star recruit was a defensive tackle initially, redshirting in 2014 and then starting two of 13 games played the following year (32 tackles, 5.5 for loss, one sack, two pass breakups). Speaks played in every game again as a sophomore, starting seven, making 28 tackles, 1.5 for loss, and a sack.

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Strengths

Big man with good speed and plus athletic ability
Has experience at a variety of spots along defensive line
Has size and length to play in odd or even front
Punches with good hand placement, arm extension and rolled hips when allowed to two-gap
Has attitude and edge
Flashes potential to become more proficient with hands as a weapon
Able to play ahead of move blocks and disrupt into backside gaps
Plays with plus awareness
Responds well to flow of the play
Offers a little more pass rush than expected as power end
Pairs hands and feet to help free him as interior rusher along the edge
Arm-over move has some potential

Weaknesses

Had just one season of big production
Inconsistent at leveraging gap
Plays top-heavy with high pad level
Allows blockers under his pads when attacking gaps
Hip-tightness leads to narrowing of his base
Struggles to hold ground against down blocks and can be rolled out of the gap
Has straight line speed, but lateral agility and foot quickness are average in tight quarters
Goes over the edge with emotions
Chippy hitter willing to lead with helmet when play is ending
Ejected for targeting against Kentucky and ejected against Mississippi State for two unsportsmanlike penalties

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reid says Brett Veach "wore him out" watching tape on Speaks. Watched all of his snaps from last season, says he never saw him on the ground. Compares him to Tamba Hali with size and metrics.</p>— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/990025147951271936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs' second-round pick Breeland Speaks recorded 67 tackles (27 solo), eight tackles-for-loss and seven sacks for Ole Miss in 2017.</p>— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/990020804221001728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Bspeaks9?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Bspeaks9</a> is the 46th pick in the 2018 DRAFT; the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> 1st pick. 2 year starter that can scream off the edge. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldyBreakdowns?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldyBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/39qIZcbEW3">pic.twitter.com/39qIZcbEW3</a></p>— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/990024610795180032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’ll trust whatever they’re doing still need a CB or Safety.

I only hope he listens as good as he speaks.

I guess they believe in Amerson

As bad as our D Line has been, it’s hard to argue with the thought process.

yeah why did we move up for him?

Didn’t we learn a lesson with over the edge emotion guy??

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13535546)

yeah why did we move up for him?

They had to believe someone coming up was going to take him.

So a project Pick while our cornerback room sucks... aight veach you had me with the Watkins and Hitchens pick ups but this blows my mind

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13535546)

yeah why did we move up for him?

Unless I missed it he wasn’t even on the list of Best players left available that was posted

With the trade up I was expecting Oliver.

Don’t know anything about this dude other than Mayock talking about having a 3rd round grade on him.

Time will tell, hope he works out

Sounds like he came on late in his college career. But could be someone in a year or two. Pass rushers are hard to come by.

We won’t get the pizza now. He better be good.

I think it is a bit of a reach but he should be able to contribute. I believe he's much farther along than

Just don't feel confident with only 3 legit corners (Fuller, Amerson, Nelson)

For what it's worth, Kiper before the draft said that Speaks was "the most underrated defensive player in the draft".

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mel Kiper on pre-draft conference call says Ole Miss DE Breeland Speaks is the most underrated defensive player in the draft, currently in 2nd day conversation as a 2nd/3rd rounder. A top selection in a supbar DE class, could be someone Vikings keep an eye on in early-mid rounds.</p>— Courtney Cronin (@CourtneyRCronin) <a href="https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/986623806285537280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Here's his Combine video: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/breela...f-b3aba25676ae

Wasn't impressed until he started showing his ability to change direction, guy can move.

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13535581)

I think it is a bit of a reach but he should be able to contribute. I believe he's much farther along than

Just don't feel confident with only 3 legit corners (Fuller, Amerson, Nelson)

Don't care how good your CB's are. If you have no pass rush, it doesn't matter.

I'm a Mississippian and an Ole Miss fan. Speaks will do us proud!

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 13535562)

Unless I missed it he wasn’t even on the list of Best players left available that was posted

Yeah, cuz that's, like, the official list, bro.

I'd love this pick if his name was Maurice Hurst. Not sure I get why they had to trade up for this guy.

ESPN guys did seem to like him more than Mayock, so there is that. Guess we'll see. Front office must really like him.

Watched his tape - looks like he's really good at diagnosing the play and finding the ball, and he is a very aggressive tackler.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13535590)

More Kiper: https://www.seccountry.com/mississip...2018-nfl-draft

Some of you people are so mind-numbingly stupid I can't even comprehend how you can figure out how to post.

We've made ONE pick. "We still need a corner" ... "our cornerback room still sucks" ... news flash: you can't fix your entire ****ing team with 1 draft pick, and here's a bonus tip for you - drafting for need is what the Cleveland Browns do. Go be a Browns fan. Have fun with that.

Remember, these "experts" also had Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russel as top picks......

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 13535557)

So a project Pick while our cornerback room sucks... aight veach you had me with the Watkins and Hitchens pick ups but this blows my mind

This. Damn I thought they were moving up for I. Oliver. Uuuuugggghhhh!

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 13535605)

No no no no no NO!!!! WRONG! YOU'RE WRONG!

YOU R WRONG!

1 CB fixes everything on our defense. Don't you get it????

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He the guy who recovered the fumble and was waving at the camera. Seem like he just love to play football and have fun like chris jones.

https://instagram.com/p/BiGADZQAqs0/

If this guy can blast the gap and get in the backfield that's a much needed improvement over last year.

A good pass rush makes an average CB and good CB.

The greatest CB cannot makeup for a weak pass rush.

Jones / KPass / Speaks / Houston

Veach clearly thinks this guy and Jones will wreck shit

I’m cautiously optimistic about this pick

I like most of what I’m reading. Sounds like he brings some much-needed toughness to our D. Guess we’ll see.

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 13535615)

He the guy who recovered the fumble and was waving at the camera. Seem like he just love to play football and have fun like chris jones.

https://instagram.com/p/BiGADZQAqs0/

Warren Sapp comedic instincts... I would take 3/4's of Warren's career.

We wanted Taven Bryan for inside pressure. He was gone so this is the backup plan.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13535619)

Veach clearly thinks this guy and Jones will wreck shit

I’m cautiously optimistic about this pick

Pretty much how you have to be with every pick.

I remember when we drafted Hali how many people were against that.

Or trading up for Houston.

Seems the Charles pick was mocked as well, IIRC.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13535619)

Veach clearly thinks this guy and Jones will wreck shit

I’m cautiously optimistic about this pick

that's what I'm saying. I don't know enough about the INDIVIDUAL but I totally get and can get behind the THINKING. Versatile, 3 down guy with a nasty streak and pass rush skills.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said Speaks will mostly likely begin his career as a OLB rather than DE.</p>— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/990024662628425729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 13535610)

This. Damn I thought they were moving up for I. Oliver. Uuuuugggghhhh!

Shit! I actually like it! I was wrong. Sorry!

So, like....does he have a motor and stuff?

285 pound OLB?

Mmmkay.

another college dlineman to OLBer project?

Reid giving a great breakdown live in the OP

Chris Jones was really good on the edge last year. He slimmed down to 285. Now we pick another guy similar to what he is currently at physically.

Tanoh, Jones and Speaks can all play edge or inside. Lotta versatility there.

I'm not seeing a whole lot to bitch about. Dude definitely seems to know how to get in the backfield and wreck shit.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13535658)

285 pound OLB?

Mmmkay.

I thought the same but the athleticism of players today is not like it used to be.

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13535669)

I'm not seeing a whole lot to bitch about. Dude definitely seems to know how to get in the backfield and wreck shit.

People are just way too reactionary on draft day

We were all wanting a DB, but we took a sleeper with the skill set to be a huge steal like Jones. It’s a surprise and a bit of a disappointment, but of course it wasn’t a bad pick.

Super talented and passionate. Like the player and the pick

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13535668)

Seems that they want a front full of strong dudes who also have some explosion. No pure fatties, but not many frail dudes either.

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 13535557)

So a project Pick while our cornerback room sucks... aight veach you had me with the Watkins and Hitchens pick ups but this blows my mind

I love it. A GM who takes risks. Use the high picks on positional value. Gladly take a few projects even if a few busts. Hopefully he hits on the "safe" picks in the late rounds better than Dorsey did.

My draft guide has this to say...

Pros - Speaks played all over the D line at Ol Miss, and he has the blend of size and movement skills to be used in a similar way in the NFL. Good mover for a 300 pounder who locates the ball quickly, and shows outstanding range when when chasing plays in pursuit. Seemingly has upside as a pass rusher, as he typically had no game plan and poor technique, but was still able to disrupt the backfield

Cons - Speaks is very raw. It often looks like he is stepping onto a football field for the first time from a technique standpoint. Shows little as far as hand use goes, gets too upright and often seems to be chasing plays as if he is a linebacker in space. While his football character isnt problematic, he has had multiple ejections, and an off field DUI in 2016

Summary - If he can grasp the technical aspects of the job, he has the upside to be a quality 3 down player as a 5 technique in an odd front, or on the interior, or as an edge setting end in a 4-3

Not too overwhelmed with this at the moment

While I have no problem with building from front to back, his profile isnt really screaming out to me... lotta mehs in there, but he does sound somewhat like a Jones clone with his potential versatility

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13535677)

I've been saying it all night. Yes, we need a DB but if you don't have a pass rush then no DB in the world is going to win you anything on defense.

He's listed as a "Defensive End" because Ole Miss played a 4-3 defense. He's an EDGE player and an OLB in our defense

We could trim him down and re-transition his weight

I think he's talented and can make an immediate impact, but I still feel it's a bit of a reach

what I like is that it appears that they're setting up the three DL spots and two OLB spots as...anybody can literally line up anywhere at any time. You don't know who's where, who's coming, and who's not. I like the idea. Other than I doubt you'd see Houston inside, You could literally see anything else.

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 13535615)

He the guy who recovered the fumble and was waving at the camera. Seem like he just love to play football and have fun like chris jones.

https://instagram.com/p/BiGADZQAqs0/

I remember watching this during the CFB season and died laughing. This makes the pick a little more easy to accept.

Andy watched every one of his games cause veach liked him so much

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13535637)

Whoa, a 305 pound OLB sounds mighty big... Levon Kirkland 2.0?

#Chiefs coach Andy Reid just said that Veach has "wore him out" with several players over the years...specifically naming LeSean McCoy, DeSean Jackson, Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, and Patrick Mahomes.

Not a bad list...and Breeland Speaks is now on that list. - @ChiefsReporter

Waited all this time for this shitty pick?

I mean, I guess it fills a need somewhat, so okay, but did you really have to trade up to get this JAG that would have been there at 54?

It’s like we wanted to just give away the pick we acquired in the Alex Smith trade . . . .

Dumb.

Andy compared him to Tamba, Suggs and Calvin Pace

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13535686)

My draft guide has this to say...

Pros - Speaks played all over the D line at Ol Miss, and he has the blend of size and movement skills to be used in a similar way in the NFL. Good mover for a 300 pounder who locates the ball quickly, and shows outstanding range when when chasing plays in pursuit. Seemingly has upside as a pass rusher, as he typically had no game plan and poor technique, but was still able to disrupt the backfield

Cons - Speaks is very raw. It often looks like he is stepping onto a football field for the first time from a technique standpoint. Shows little as far as hand use goes, gets too upright and often seems to be chasing plays as if he is a linebacker in space. While his football character isnt problematic, he has had multiple ejections, and an off field DUI in 2016

Summary - If he can grasp the technical aspects of the job, he has the upside to be a quality 3 down player as a 5 technique in an odd front, or on the interior, or as an edge setting end in a 4-3

Not too overwhelmed with this at the moment

While I have no problem with building from front to back, his profile isnt really screaming out to me... lotta mehs in there, but he does sound somewhat like a Jones clone with his potential versatility

Can you imagine if he would have had an on-field DUI? Lord.

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13535707)

Except Speaks is not in that class. Not even close to it. He is JAG.

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13535724)

Except Speaks is not in that class. Not even close to it.

You should have told Veach that.....he might not understand how to do this as well as some of you do.

Oh noes! A reach! Come back Dorsey!

5th best interior pass rusher in CFB per PFF. Sounds like they plan on rotating him inside in subpackages and having him as a backup option at OLB.

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 13535722)

Can you imagine if he would have had an on-field DUI? Lord.

The tire tracks on the field alone........:eek:

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13535724)

Except Speaks is not in that class. Not even close to it.

Based on ****ing what? None of them had played a snap in the league when Veach was pumping them up to Reid.

This is what you have right here, a guy who is most likely a strong side OLB in this scheme, so that means they are prepping for life without Houston or moving him to the other side...

I think immediately what it is, is a team that is completely doubling down that if Dee Ford is hurt Frank Zombo isn't on the field again.

I also think it has a lot to do with that nickel sub package they sit in 50% of the time, they seem to be trying to get dudes who are versatile enough to play in that package and not make running to easy.

Don't be surprised if a speedy LB is taken sometime today for that same reason.

Bleh. Hope I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13535724)

Except Speaks is not in that class. Not even close to it. He is JAG.

Pay attention, folks. We have some NFL scouts in the house with really fresh takes. I'd pay for more of this.

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 13535722)

Can you imagine if he would have had an on-field DUI? Lord.

It would be like Toronto all over again!

This is also a pick about value, if you wait you don't get a guy like this in this draft, there aren't many of these guys.

But for example a NT or a CB or S there's a lot of them.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13535735)

I think it's most definitely a move to keep Zombo off the field at the least and I have a feeling Ford is not long for the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13535744)

It would be like Toronto all over again!

:facepalm:

ROFL