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Dont dodge the question I posed.

You said he has "major bust potential" and I simply asked what specifically gave you this thought.

Is he dumb?
Bad arm?
Poor accuracy?
Cant read defenses?
Doesnt understand coverages?
Immobile?
Bad leader?
Injury prone?
Is he an asshole off the field?

For you to make a bullshit claim like "he has major bust potential", surely you had something to base that claim off of...

Im just asking what you see that I am missing...

Even if that was totally accurate, whats your point?

Arians has a near perfect record with developing first round quarterbacks and has a backround in the Steelers system and is a OC under a guy that has ties to Baltimore.

The guy would be able to get a DC from either of those systems and develop our quarterback.

Not sure whats not to like...

I've said this before. He is not rgIII, who ran a college offense, but we knew could win with his legs even if he wasn't a master at a pro offense (even in terms of being a pure pocket passer, he doesn't walk in with nearly the impressive pedigree as rgIII). He isn't Andrew luck, who we knew would MASTER a pocket based pro offense.

He is going to have to win games with his head. He is mobile enough, but not enough to mask inability to win in the pocket. People point to a "good enough" job in an average pro offense a few years ago. Today, he runs a very college oriented system where he isn't asked to go through progressions. He hasn't played against super complicated defenses to give us a feel for how he will react to out thinking a brilliant defense. We have to take leaps of faith that his football iq, coachability, and work ethic will help him do that.

Again. I would take him in a heartbeat. But fans of bad teams are the only ones who pretend he comes without risk. It's another case of cp exaggerating about a guy they like. Outside of cp, he is universally viewed as a borderline #1 pick in a lackluster qb class. If he is as clear cut as you say, given his skill set, he would be a consensus #1. The only reason hes becoming more of a consensus pick is because barkleys stock is nose diving.

Yeah, we miss out on a ll the sure things and this year when we have the opportunity the pickings are slim. We better not draft Todd Blackledge Jr.

bowl games and the combine wil determine who we are picking

I think geno will end up being the obvious number 1..I don't remember people being all upon rg3s dick until after the bowl game and the combine

My thread makes it clear. He may be a good positions coach, but no person should want a coach that coddled big Ben and his behavior. The Rooneys, the fans, and Tomlin wanted him fired for years. The only reason he kept his job is because his best friend, Ben, vouched for him. Even his teammates spoke out about how he favored ben.

He is the most overrated coordinator in the nfl. Apart from coddling Ben, he led one of the worst red zone offenses. Got his qbs clobbered. And never adjusted to situations like maybe deciding to run the ball when your qb plays on a broken ankle. Arians is a good positions coach whose genius is largely driven by coaching two unbelievably gifted qbs, and he is a players coach which I absolutely do not want.

There is a lot not to like. Again, post what you just wrote of a steelers board. You will get drilled worse than knowmo.

Geno isn't the prospect rgIII was. Again, I like geno. But rgIII was a sure thing. Everybody knew it and few disagreed.

The difference between RG3 and Geno is 4.3 speed vs 4.6 speed and the systems they ran in college. As passers, they are extremely comparable.

So, what I have learned today form ChiefsZilla is that Geno Smith has "major bust potential" because he would have a hard time mastering a pro style offense and because he isnt RG3.

Which he isnt, he is GS3.

months before the draft a lot of posts called the gap between Luck & RG3 a large one. There were folks calling RG3 sure bust who couldn't run an NFL offense and would be the next Vick but worse.


Heh

Well...THAT'S the cheesiest thing I've read today.

Actually, it is the lacking foot speed of this year's QB draft that makes these players less ideal as top picks. They can all throw a decent pass, some are smarter yadayada, but the need for foot speed has never been greater at the QB position.

Both Luck & RG3 use mobility in their game at this level.

RgIII was a sure thing because his floor was that he would be an out of this world running qb. His upside was to be an out of the world athlete who was also an excellent pocket passer. Geno is going to be a pocket passer who can use his legs if he has to. That is a tremendous difference.

Geno HAS to be not just a good, but a masterful pocket passer. I never said he can't do that. Don't put words in my mouth. I've praised his football iq and work ethic. I've said it is a risk. And when I say bust potential, I am basing that on the idea that anything short of a franchise qb is a bust. Solid starter to me, is a bust.

wow what a pass by RG3. A lil slide and boom!

How many "sure things" at QB have been drafted in the last 15 years?