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doomy3 08-11-2010 08:45 PM

TBG got me thinking--Help Me Build a Desktop
 
Well, TBG got me thinking with his thread, and so I want to build a desktop. I have never done this before and have always just bought a computer in a B&M store. I don't play any games, so it doesn't need to be able to do that. Here is what I need it for:

-Browsing the internet--want it to be fast

-Basic document applications like Microsoft Office, etc.

-Photoshop photo editing

-POSSIBLY some video editing

-Needs to work on a dual monitor setup

-Needs to work with the following parts, which I have already bought:

LITE-ON Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive


I also already have Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit that I will be installing.

I do have a Microcenter close, so I would be able to buy there if it makes sense, or Newegg or any other retailer. Would like to keep the amount around $400 if possible since I already have the Hard Drive and DVD Burner.

Thanks for any help or suggestions on a build!

dirk digler 08-11-2010 08:53 PM

what is your budget?

The Bad Guy 08-11-2010 08:55 PM

I'll tell you what, I learned a shitload building this. Good luck. The guys on here are ****ing great.

doomy3 08-11-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6929195)
what is your budget?

Oh yea, I guess that's important.

I would say around $400 or close to that since I already have the hard drive and DVD burner.

doomy3 08-11-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6929197)
I'll tell you what, I learned a shitload building this. Good luck. The guys on here are ****ing great.

Looking forward to it. I would guess, just based on your other thread, that I am about the same level as far as understanding computers. I can get around them pretty well, but have never built anything before.

dirk digler 08-11-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6929200)
Oh yea, I guess that's important.

I would say around $400 or close to that since I already have the hard drive and DVD burner.

I don't know if that is possible especially if you don't have the monitors.

dirk digler 08-11-2010 09:24 PM

Here is a very general breakdown of what think it would cost:

CPU\Motherboard - $120 minimum (this would be a fairly low end CPU)
Memory - For 4GB you are probably looking at around $100
Case - $50-100
Video Card - $100
Sound Card - (won't need if motherboard has integrated sound)
Monitors - $100 a piece

doomy3 08-11-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6929212)
I don't know if that is possible especially if you don't have the monitors.

Sorry, should have mentioned that too.

I have 2 20" LCD monitors already.

Just need the CPU built.

And I could go a bit above $400. Just trying to keep it in that neighborhood since I have already bought the monitors, hard drive and DVD burner.

MadMax 08-11-2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6929197)
I'll tell you what, I learned a shitload building this. Good luck. The guys on here are ****ing great.



I agree and the input is very helpful

dirk digler 08-12-2010 09:55 AM

Here is what I come up with

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor + MSI 785GTM-E45 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G Motherboard + Kingston 4GB RAM = 376.97

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...#aShoppingCart

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $60.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119137

SAPPHIRE 100253HDMI Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card = $55.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102829

Total = $491.99


dirk digler 08-12-2010 09:58 AM

Here are the specs for the motherboard it has enough SATA ports for your burner and hard drive

<table class="specification" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="title">Model</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Brand</td> <td class="desc">MSI</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Model</td> <td class="desc">785GTM-E45</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Supported CPU</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">CPU Socket Type</td> <td class="desc">AM3/AM2+/AM2</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">CPU Type</td> <td class="desc">Phenom II / Phenom / Athlon II / Athlon64 /Sempron</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">FSB</td> <td class="desc">2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s)</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Chipsets</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">North Bridge</td> <td class="desc">AMD 785G</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">South Bridge</td> <td class="desc">AMD SB710</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Memory</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Number of Memory Slots</td> <td class="desc">2×240pin</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Memory Standard</td> <td class="desc">DDR2 1066/800/667</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Maximum Memory Supported</td> <td class="desc">8GB</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Channel Supported</td> <td class="desc">Dual Channel</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Expansion Slots</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">PCI Express 2.0 x16</td> <td class="desc">1</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">PCI Express x1</td> <td class="desc">1</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">PCI Slots</td> <td class="desc">2</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Storage Devices</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">PATA</td> <td class="desc">1 x ATA133 2 Dev. Max</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">SATA 3Gb/s</td> <td class="desc">6</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">SATA RAID</td> <td class="desc">0/1/0+1/JBOD</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Onboard Video</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Onboard Video Chipset</td> <td class="desc">ATI Radeon HD 4200</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Onboard Audio</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Audio Channels</td> <td class="desc">8 Channels</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Onboard LAN</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">LAN Chipset</td> <td class="desc">Realtek 8111C</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Max LAN Speed</td> <td class="desc">10/100/1000Mbps</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Rear Panel Ports</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">PS/2</td> <td class="desc">2</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Video Ports</td> <td class="desc">D-Sub + DVI</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">HDMI</td> <td class="desc">1 x HDMI</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">USB 1.1/2.0</td> <td class="desc">4 x USB 2.0</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Audio Ports</td> <td class="desc">6 Ports</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Onboard USB</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Onboard USB</td> <td class="desc">8 x USB 2.0</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Physical Spec</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Form Factor</td> <td class="desc">Micro ATX</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Dimensions</td> <td class="desc">9.6" x 9"</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Power Pin</td> <td class="desc">24 Pin</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="title">Manufacturer Warranty</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Parts</td> <td class="desc">1 year limited</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="name">Labor</td> <td class="desc">1 year limited</td></tr></tbody></table>

Pants 08-12-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6929769)
Here is what I come up with

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor + MSI 785GTM-E45 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G Motherboard + Kingston 4GB RAM = 376.97

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...#aShoppingCart

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $60.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119137

SAPPHIRE 100253HDMI Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card = $55.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102829

Total = $491.99

Needs a PSU still.

dirk digler 08-12-2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6929772)
Needs a PSU still.

LMAO That would help

dirk digler 08-12-2010 10:04 AM

Edit: The power supply I quoted probably isn't strong enough. Good catch Metro and thank you.


Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply

84.99

Brings your total to = 576.98 (approximately)

doomy3 08-12-2010 10:29 AM

Thanks for the build idea Dirk.

Anyone else care to weigh in?

Stewie 08-12-2010 10:36 AM

About two years ago I did something similar to what you're wanting to do. I spec'd out what I needed and ended up going the bare-bones route. I had new-ish parts I wanted to keep from my old system. It saved some time since the power supply, MB, memory and HD were already installed and tested. I bought mine from TigerDirect and saved some money going that route rather than starting over (and got exactly what I wanted). Just my 2 cents. Oh, and after I received my system I got offers from TigerDirect for some ridiculously cheap memory. It was high quality 1GB sticks for $9.99 w/free shipping.

Dayze 08-12-2010 10:44 AM

I'll definitely seek out the CPers expertise when I build a desktop for my flight simulator.
I want it to kick much ass.

dirk digler 08-12-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6929812)
Thanks for the build idea Dirk.

Anyone else care to weigh in?

No problem. You can go to mwave, tigerdirect or newegg and look at their motherboard\cpu\memory bundles or any of their bare-bone kits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 6929830)
About two years ago I did something similar to what you're wanting to do. I spec'd out what I needed and ended up going the bare-bones route. I had new-ish parts I wanted to keep from my old system. It saved some time since the power supply, MB, memory and HD were already installed and tested. I bought mine from TigerDirect and saved some money going that route rather than starting over (and got exactly what I wanted). Just my 2 cents. Oh, and after I received my system I got offers from TigerDirect for some ridiculously cheap memory. It was high quality 1GB sticks for $9.99 w/free shipping.

Yep I usually like going the combo route or the bare-bone kits because they are tested out before you buy them and that way you get all the right parts.

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 03:13 PM

Out of curiosity, what are bare-bone kits?

doomy3 08-12-2010 07:14 PM

Can someone compare the build that Dirk posted compared to the one that TBG had done a few days ago? Trying to figure out if I should go with something like what he posted or just basically copy TBG's build.

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6930981)
Can someone compare the build that Dirk posted compared to the one that TBG had done a few days ago? Trying to figure out if I should go with something like what he posted or just basically copy TBG's build.

Here's what I ended up with...

<table style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" width="528" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" width="26" bgcolor="#cccccc">Qty.</td><td colspan="2" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" bgcolor="#cccccc">Product Description</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" width="87" bgcolor="#cccccc">Savings</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" width="72" align="right" bgcolor="#cccccc">Total Price</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">1</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">http://images10.newegg.com/ProductIm...371-015-11.jpg
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817371015
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: green;" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">-$15.00 Instant
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$99.99
$84.99</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">1</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">http://images10.newegg.com/ProductIm...128-431-02.jpg
GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #:N82E16813128431
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: green;" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">-$10.00 Instant
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$89.99
$79.99</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">1</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">http://images10.newegg.com/ProductIm...103-846-02.jpg
AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision
Item #:N82E16819103846
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: green;" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$100.99</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">1</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">http://images10.newegg.com/ProductIm...231-325-02.jpg
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820231325
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: green;" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$199.99</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">1</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">http://images10.newegg.com/ProductIm...103-087-02.jpg
COOLER MASTER DK9-7E52A-0L-GP CPU Cooler
Item #:N82E16835103087
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: green;" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$10.99</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">1</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">http://images10.newegg.com/ProductIm...116-754-01.jpg
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders
Item #:N82E16832116754
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: green;" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$99.99</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">1</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">http://images10.newegg.com/ProductIm...102-892-03.jpg
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5550 100294L Video Card
Item #:N82E16814102892
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: green;" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$64.99</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" colspan="4" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">Grand Total:</td><td style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom: 3px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);" valign="top" align="right" bgcolor="#e8e8e8">$641.93</td></tr></tbody></table>
There's 30 dollars in mail in rebates with that so your total with shipping would be 653.61 - 30 for a grand total of 623.61 out of your pocket.

doomy3 08-12-2010 08:23 PM

Thanks for posting that TBG. I already have a copy of Windows 7, so that would be $100 off that price. So, it would basically be the same price as the build that Dirk posted for me. I would love for someone to look at the parts that Dirk posted earlier in this thread compared to the parts that TBG used to build his, and let me know what the differences would be. Also, would either of these builds work with the hard drive and DVD burner that I already have?

dirk digler 08-12-2010 08:37 PM

That is pretty good rig TBG. And to answer your question about barebones. You basically get a case, PS, motherboard\cpu, RAM and depending on the bundle maybe a hard drive or video card. They make sure it all works with each other so you know you have the correct components when you buy it.

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 08:37 PM

You need a case as well right?

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6931108)
That is pretty good rig TBG. And to answer your question about barebones. You basically get a case, PS, motherboard\cpu, RAM and depending on the bundle maybe a hard drive or video card. They make sure it all works with each other so you know you have the correct components when you buy it.

Thanks dude. Metro, AustinChief and PR Capone basically built it for me. I also added a 21.5 inch Asus monitor, Gigabyte midtower case and 1 TB Samsung HD. After it's all said and done, it will cost me around 900, but it's worth it.

So they basically build your rig for you and test all the parts to make sure it works. Is that more expensive than piecing it together yourself?

I hope you keep replying to me because I could look at your avatar all day.

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 08:40 PM

Comparing the parts is something I'm completely in the dark about.

Hopefully, with this build, I won't need a computer for a long, long time.

bigbrown 08-12-2010 08:44 PM

so the budget have done?

dirk digler 08-12-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6931111)
Thanks dude. Metro, AustinChief and PR Capone basically built it for me.

So they basically build your rig for you and test all the parts to make sure it works. Is that more expensive than piecing it together yourself?

I hope you keep replying to me because I could look at your avatar all day.

Now that I think about it they may not test it but when you get a barebones you know everything is compatible. If you buy a motherboard\cpu\RAM combo from mwave they test it all to make sure it works which is cool.

You still have to put it all together. Here is an example from Tiger.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...Id_31_B69-0223

doomy3 08-12-2010 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6931109)
You need a case as well right?

Yes, I do need a case as well.

I can't compare these things at all, so I am just looking for some advice on what is best.

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931129)
Yes, I do need a case as well.

I can't compare these things at all, so I am just looking for some advice on what is best.

Here's the case I got. Seems to work fine.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...240&CatId=1842

doomy3 08-12-2010 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6931131)
Here's the case I got. Seems to work fine.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...240&CatId=1842

That seems to be a pretty good deal... Anyone have any input on this case?

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931134)
That seems to be a pretty good deal... Anyone have any input on this case?

Well, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a cheaper one. Everything seems to be in good shape with it. Not a ton of room, but you can operate inside of it.

doomy3 08-12-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6931144)
Well, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a cheaper one. Everything seems to be in good shape with it. Not a ton of room, but you can operate inside of it.

Oh yeah, no doubt. Wasn't sure if there was a reason though to get a more expensive one like the one Dirk mentioned earlier in the thread.

The Bad Guy 08-12-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931154)
Oh yeah, no doubt. Wasn't sure if there was a reason though to get a more expensive one like the one Dirk mentioned earlier in the thread.

Metro told me that spending on a case is worthless. I would think that since you aren't gaming, and won't be doing any upgrading, that this case should suit your needs just fine.

Fairplay 08-12-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931129)
Yes, I do need a case as well.

I can't compare these things at all, so I am just looking for some advice on what is best.




Tell us what you end up going with doomy3.

doomy3 08-12-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 6931198)
Tell us what you end up going with doomy3.

Well, I'm still waiting on some more advice from some others before I decide what to do. I literally no nothing when it comes to comparing these things, so I would just be shooting in the dark at this point.

Fairplay 08-12-2010 10:05 PM

I think you already have a couple good set ups already mentioned.

How many do you need man?

doomy3 08-12-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 6931224)
I think you already have a couple good set ups already mentioned.

How many do you need man?

I'm asking which one of the setups would make more sense for me. Basically, I'm asking what the differences would be between the two setups.

Fairplay 08-12-2010 10:55 PM

Oh, i can help you then, get my trusty calculator out and then........


TBG's Setup

Grand Total: $641.93

Minus

DD's Setup

Grand Total: $491.99

= $149.94

I think that's the difference.

dirk digler 08-13-2010 07:01 AM

Doomy both are pretty equal the biggest difference is TBG has a smaller CPU but double the memory. After doing some research on that CPU I put if you were to choose that one you might want to get a bigger\powerful CPU fan or cooler because it is a beast. I read it puts out 125 watts but it is quad-core :D

Also that is one of the reasons why I chose the case. It has 3 huge fans in it.

Pants 08-13-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6931157)
Metro told me that spending on a case is worthless. I would think that since you aren't gaming, and won't be doing any upgrading, that this case should suit your needs just fine.

Yeah, expensive cases come into play when you're looking at sufficient cooling of your machine once you start overclocking things. Also, depending on what you need, you might get a bigger case which will cost more. I hate spending money on big LED-lit cases that look cool and do stupid shit nobody cares about (like side panels you can see through, ooooooh!). I just care about what's inside, I guess.

Also, the only things that have compatibility issues are mobo's, CPUs and, to an extent, RAM. Everything else is compatible with everything else.

Did you get the new PSU yet, TBG?

The Bad Guy 08-13-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6931737)
Yeah, expensive cases come into play when you're looking at sufficient cooling of your machine once you start overclocking things. Also, depending on what you need, you might get a bigger case which will cost more. I hate spending money on big LED-lit cases that look cool and do stupid shit nobody cares about (like side panels you can see through, ooooooh!). I just care about what's inside, I guess.

Also, the only things that have compatibility issues are mobo's, CPUs and, to an extent, RAM. Everything else is compatible with everything else.

Did you get the new PSU yet, TBG?

UPS has it on the truck. Should be here by 2.

Figures, the week I build my rig is also the week for my son's first birthday party. Nothing like wanting to play with the new toy when you have to get ready for 50 guests.

Pants 08-13-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6931783)
UPS has it on the truck. Should be here by 2.

Figures, the week I build my rig is also the week for my son's first birthday party. Nothing like wanting to play with the new toy when you have to get ready for 50 guests.

You got a really nice processor, a shit ton of RAM (which won't even get used, lol) and a good video card. You'll be able to run pretty much whatever you want on your rig, dude.

doomy3 08-13-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6931790)
You got a really nice processor, a shit ton of RAM (which won't even get used, lol) and a good video card. You'll be able to run pretty much whatever you want on your rig, dude.

Metrolike, can you weigh in on a build for me?

Pants 08-13-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931792)
Metrolike, can you weigh in on a build for me?

Which build are you talking about?

doomy3 08-13-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6931797)
Which build are you talking about?

Either the one that Dirk posted, or something similar to the one that you built last week, or if there is a better option available now. I just know next to nothing about this stuff.

Pants 08-13-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931801)
Either the one that Dirk posted, or something similar to the one that you built last week, or if there is a better option available now. I just know next to nothing about this stuff.

What are you looking for? If you're not going to game and are willing to not go with the best/latest stuff, it's going to be pretty cheap. TBG started suffering from the overbudget syndrome and ended up with a pretty beastly computer. What's your price range?

doomy3 08-13-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6931841)
What are you looking for? If you're not going to game and are willing to not go with the best/latest stuff, it's going to be pretty cheap. TBG started suffering from the overbudget syndrome and ended up with a pretty beastly computer. What's your price range?

Not gaming at all.

Want it to be fast for browsing the internet, I'll be doing basic applications like Microsoft office, etc. Photo Editing with Photoshop.

Needs to be able to run a 2 monitor setup (I have 2 20" LCD monitors already)

I have a 1 TB hard drive and a DVD burner as listed in the thread starter already.

Price range I would love to keep it around $400 or so, but could go up to probably $500. Like I said, I already have the hard drive and DVD burner.

Thoughts?

Pants 08-13-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931894)
Not gaming at all.

Want it to be fast for browsing the internet, I'll be doing basic applications like Microsoft office, etc. Photo Editing with Photoshop.

Needs to be able to run a 2 monitor setup (I have 2 20" LCD monitors already)

I have a 1 TB hard drive and a DVD burner as listed in the thread starter already.

Price range I would love to keep it around $400 or so, but could go up to probably $500. Like I said, I already have the hard drive and DVD burner.

Thoughts?

You really don't need much for that at all. Are you going to be playing with HD video?

doomy3 08-13-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6931925)
You really don't need much for that at all. Are you going to be playing with HD video?

Nope, not planning on it.

Pants 08-13-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931934)
Nope, not planning on it.

I can post you a build later this evening once I get home from work. dd's build is completely fine except you might want to get a more powerful PSU. TBG's 550w PSU didn't have enough juice to run his.

You are going to end up having a lot of unused computing power with that rig, though, but that's a good thing.

doomy3 08-13-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6931941)
I can post you a build later this evening once I get home from work. dd's build is completely fine except you might want to get a more powerful PSU. TBG's 550w PSU didn't have enough juice to run his.

You are going to end up having a lot of unused computing power with that rig, though, but that's a good thing.

What would you cut down on in that build? I'm definitely open to less... Just want something fast and with a pretty decent memory capacity.

Pants 08-13-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6931970)
What would you cut down on in that build? I'm definitely open to less... Just want something fast and with a pretty decent memory capacity.

4 gigs will be plenty. I know you pretty much NEEDED 4 gigs to run Vista properly, I'm not sure how much of a hog Windows 7 is. Someone else on here will surely know. You might be fine with just 2 gigs of RAM.

dirk digler 08-13-2010 12:03 PM

One thing you have to consider Doomy is that if you plan to use Photoshop alot especially if you have the new version it will take alot of memory and is fairly CPU intensive.

Also my recommendation is if you are going to run Windows 7 64-bit 4GB RAM should be the minimum otherwise it doesn't make much sense to run a 64-bit OS.

The reason why is 32-bit OS's can only use up to 4GB of RAM while 64-bit Windows 7 can use up to 8TB. Windows 7 64-bit requires 2GB just for the OS.

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If you have run the 32-bit version of Photoshop CS4/CS5 with a 32-bit Windows OS, you've probably noticed that the maximum RAM Photoshop will use is approximately 1.7GB. This will be the case, whether you have 3GB or 4GB of RAM.

Run the 32-bit version of Photoshop CS4/CS5 under 64-bit Windows Vista or Windows 7 and Photoshop can access almost twice as much RAM. Approximately 3.2GB.

When you use the 64-bit version of Photoshop together with a 64-bit version of Windows Vista or Windows 7, Photoshop can use as much RAM as you can load on your machine.
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http://windows.microsoft.com/systemrequirements

If you want to run Windows 7 on your PC, here's what it takes:
  • 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
  • 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
  • DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver



The Bad Guy 08-13-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6931941)
I can post you a build later this evening once I get home from work. dd's build is completely fine except you might want to get a more powerful PSU. TBG's 550w PSU didn't have enough juice to run his.

You are going to end up having a lot of unused computing power with that rig, though, but that's a good thing.

Hey, I'm moving on up. 650W. FTW!!!!!!!!!

Pants 08-13-2010 06:21 PM

Here you go, trying to watch the game, so a nice, quick build for you:

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