Louis CK's film premier and Colbert apperance -- cancelled.
 

Apparently the NYT is about to release a story revealing potentially salacious allegations about CK. He's possibly next to go down.

Rumors have circulated around CK for a few years now. I don't know what the Times has, but he's probably going to be hit with some sexual assault or sexual harassment accusations.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-story-1056585

Christ......is TJ right??

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/a...isconduct.html

Louis C.K. Crossed a Line Into Sexual Misconduct, 5 Women Say

In 2002, a Chicago comedy duo, Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, landed their big break: a chance to perform at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. When Louis C.K. invited them to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after their late-night show, they did not think twice. The bars were closed and they wanted to celebrate. He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial.

As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.” In 2003, Abby Schachner called Louis C.K. to invite him to one of her shows, and during the phone conversation, she said, she could hear him masturbating as they spoke. Another comedian, Rebecca Corry, said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined.

Now, after years of unsubstantiated rumors about Louis C.K. masturbating in front of associates, women are coming forward to describe what they experienced. Even amid the current burst of sexual misconduct accusations against powerful men, the stories about Louis C.K. stand out because he has so few equals in comedy. In the years since the incidents the women describe, he has sold out Madison Square Garden eight times, created an Emmy-winning TV series, and accumulated the clout of a tastemaker and auteur, with the help of a manager who represents some of the biggest names in comedy. And Louis C.K. built a reputation as the unlikely conscience of the comedy scene, by making audiences laugh about hypocrisy — especially male hypocrisy.

After being contacted for an interview this week about the on-the-record accusations of sexual misconduct — encounters that took place over a decade ago — Louis C.K.’s publicist, Lewis Kay, said the comedian would not respond. “Louis is not going to answer any questions,” Mr. Kay wrote in an email Tuesday night. Neither Louis C.K. nor Mr. Kay replied to follow-up emails in which the accusations were laid out in detail, or to voice messages or texts. On Thursday, the premiere of Louis C.K.’s new movie “I Love You, Daddy,” was abruptly canceled, and he also canceled an appearance on “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.”

The stories told by the women raise sharp questions about the anecdotes that Louis C.K. tells in his own comedy. He rose to fame in part by appearing to be candid about his flaws and sexual hang-ups, discussing and miming masturbation extensively in his act — an exaggerated riff that some of the women feel may have served as a cover for real misconduct. He has all but invited comparison between his private life and his onscreen work, too: In “I Love You, Daddy,” which is scheduled to be released next week, a character pretends to masturbate at length in front of other people, and other characters appear to dismiss rumors of sexual predation.

At the same time, Louis C.K. has also boosted the careers of women, and is sometimes viewed as a feminist by fans and critics. But Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov said that when they told others about the incident in the Colorado hotel room, they heard that Louis C.K.’s manager was upset that they were talking about it openly. The women feared career repercussions. Louis C.K.’s manager, Dave Becky, was adamant in an email that he “never threatened anyone.” For comedians, the professional environment is informal: profanity and raunch that would be far out of line in most workplaces are common, and personal foibles — the weirder the better — are routinely mined for material. But Louis C.K.’s behavior was abusive, the women said. “I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Ms. Wolov said.

‘You Want to Believe It’s Not Happening’

Ms. Corry, a comedian, writer and actress, has long felt haunted by her run-in with Louis C.K. In 2005, she was working as a performer and producer on a television pilot — a big step in her career — when Louis C.K., a guest star, approached her as she was walking to the set. “He leaned close to my face and said, ‘Can I ask you something?’ I said, ‘Yes,’” Ms. Corry said in a written statement to The New York Times. “He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me.” Stunned and angry, Ms. Corry said she declined, and pointed out that he had a daughter and a pregnant wife. “His face got red,” she recalled, “and he told me he had issues.”

Word quickly reached the show’s executive producers, Courteney Cox and David Arquette, who both confirmed the incident. “What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Ms. Cox said in an email, adding that she felt “outrage and shock.” “My concern was to create an environment where Rebecca felt safe, protected and heard,” she said. They discussed curtailing the production. Ms. Corry decided to continue with the show. “Things were going well for me,” Ms. Corry said in the statement, “and I had no interest in being the person who shut down a production.”

A fifth woman, who spoke on condition of anonymity to protect her family’s privacy because she has not been publicly linked to the incident with Louis C.K., also has disturbing memories about an incident with the comedian. In the late ’90s, she was working in production at “The Chris Rock Show” when Louis C.K., a writer and producer there, repeatedly asked her to watch him masturbate, she said. She was in her early 20s and went along with his request, but later questioned his behavior. “It was something that I knew was wrong,” said the woman, who described sitting in Louis C.K.’s office while he masturbated in his desk chair during a workday, other colleagues just outside the door. “I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she continued. “He abused his power.” A co-worker at “The Chris Rock Show,” who also wished to remain anonymous, confirmed that the woman told him about the experience soon after it happened.

Ms. Schachner, a writer, illustrator and performer, admired Louis C.K.’s work. They had met in the comedy scene; Ms. Schachner’s former boyfriend was a comedy writer who had worked with Louis C.K. In 2003, when she called Louis C.K. with an invitation to her show, he said he was at work in an office as a writer on the series “Cedric the Entertainer Presents,” she recalled. Their conversation quickly moved from the personal — Louis C.K. had seen photos of her on her boyfriend’s desk, he said, and told her he thought she was cute — to “unprofessional and inappropriate,” Ms. Schachner said.

She said she heard the blinds coming down. Then he slowly started telling her his sexual fantasies, breathing heavily and talking softly. She realized he was masturbating, and was dumbfounded. The call went on for several minutes, even though, Ms. Schachner said, “I definitely wasn’t encouraging it.” But she didn’t know how to end it, either. “You want to believe it’s not happening,” she said. A friend, Stuart Harris, confirmed that Ms. Schachner had described the call to him in 2003. For years afterward, Ms. Schachner said, she felt angry and betrayed by an artist she looked up to. And she wondered what she could have done differently. “I felt very ashamed,” she said.

A Run-In, Then Fears About Speaking Out

During Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov’s surreal visit to Louis C.K.’s Aspen hotel room, they said they were holding onto each other, screaming and laughing in shock, as Louis C.K. masturbated in a chair. “We were paralyzed,” Ms. Goodman said. After he ejaculated on his stomach, they said, they fled. He called after them: “He was like, ‘Which one is Dana and which one is Julia?’” Ms. Goodman recalled. Afterward, they ran into Charna Halpern, the owner of influential improv theaters in Los Angeles and Chicago, where Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov performed, and relayed what had happened. “I didn’t know what to do, I didn’t know what to tell them to do,” said Ms. Halpern. Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov decided against going to the police, unsure whether what happened was criminal, but felt they had to respond in some way “because something crazy happened to us,” Ms. Goodman said.

Hoping that outrage would build against Louis C.K., and also to shame him, they began telling others about the incident the next day. But many people seemed to recoil, they said. “Guys were backing away from us,” Ms. Wolov said. Barely 24 hours after they left Louis C.K.’s hotel, “we could already feel the backlash.” Soon after, they said they understood from their managers that Mr. Becky, Louis C.K’s manager, wanted them to stop telling people about their encounter with Louis C.K. Lee Kernis, one of the women’s managers at the time, confirmed on Thursday that he had a conversation in which he told Mr. Becky that Louis C.K.’s behavior toward the women had been offensive. Mr. Kernis also said that Mr. Becky was upset that the women were talking openly about the incident.

Mr. Becky denied making any threats toward the women. “I don’t recall the exact specifics of the conversation, but know I never threatened anyone,” he wrote by email on Thursday. Ms. Halpern and Robert Schroeder — Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov’s agent at the time — said that the pair told them that they felt they had been warned to stop talking. Dave Becky, left, with his client Louis C.K.
Mr. Becky arguably wields even more power in comedy than Louis C.K. He represents Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari, Amy Poehler and other top performers, and his company, 3 Arts, puts together programming deals for nearly every platform. Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov moved to Los Angeles shortly after the Aspen festival, but “we were coming here with a bunch of enemies,” Ms. Goodman said. Gren Wells, a filmmaker who befriended the comedy duo in 2002, said the incident and the warning, which they told her about soon after Aspen, hung heavily over them both. “This is something that they were freaked out about,” Ms. Wells said. In the years since, Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov have found some success, but they remained concerned about Mr. Becky and took themselves out of the running for the many projects he was involved in. Though their humor is in line with what he produces, “we know immediately that we can never even submit our material,” Ms. Wolov said.

Private Acts, Public Jokes

Jokes about masturbation have been a regular part of Louis C.K.’s stage shows. In one bit, he complains about not being able to find a private place in his house to do it. “I’m on the streets now,” he says, “I’ve got nowhere to go.” In another bit he laments being a prisoner of his perversions. “Just the constant perverted sexual thoughts,” he says, then mimes masturbating. “It makes me into a moron.” Tig Notaro, the comedian whose Amazon series, “One Mississippi,” lists Louis C.K. as an executive producer, is one of the few in the fiercely insular comedy world to speak out against him. Her career received a huge boost when he released her 2012 comedy album, about her cancer diagnosis. But their relationship has crumbled and she now feels “trapped” by her association with him, she wrote in an email. Her fear is that “he released my album to cover his tracks,” she said. “He knew it was going to make him look like a good guy, supporting a woman.” Ms. Notaro said she learned of his reputation after they sold the series to Amazon, and a recent story line is a fictional treatment of the alleged masturbation episodes.

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real,” she said by email, “but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” like Ms. Corry, who confided in her, she said. In his forthcoming film, about a television writer whose teenage daughter is wooed by a Woody Allen type, one character aggressively mimics masturbating in front of others. The content has raised eyebrows. Given the rumors surrounding Louis C.K., the movie “plays like an ambiguous moral inventory of and excuse for everything that allows sexual predators to thrive: open secrets, toxic masculinity, and powerful people getting the benefit of the doubt,” Joe Berkowitz wrote in Fast Company. Yet in an interview with The Times in September at the Toronto film festival, where “I Love You, Daddy,” was shown, Louis C.K. dismissed stories of his alleged sexual misconduct as “rumors,” and said the notion that the masturbation scenes referred to them never occurred to him. “It’s funny, I didn’t think of that, ” he said.

Apologies With Troubling Implications

In private, though, he appears to have acknowledged his behavior. In 2009, six years after their phone call, Ms. Schachner received a Facebook message from Louis C.K., apologizing. “Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he wrote in the message, which was reviewed by The Times. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.” He added that he had seen some of Ms. Schachner’s comedy and thought she was funny. “I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did,” he wrote.
Ms. Schachner accepted his apology and told him she forgave him. But the original interaction left her deeply dispirited, she said, and discouraged her from pursuing comedy.

In 2015, a few months before the now-defunct website Defamer circulated rumors of Louis C.K.’s alleged sexual misconduct, Ms. Corry also received an email from Louis C.K., which was obtained by The Times, saying he owed her a “very very very late apology.” When he phoned her, he said he was sorry for shoving her in a bathroom. Ms. Corry replied that he had never done that, but had instead asked to masturbate in front of her. Responding in a shaky voice, he acknowledged it and said, “I used to misread people back then,” she recalled.

The call confounded her, Ms. Corry said: not only had he misremembered the incident, which made her think there were other moments of misconduct, he also implied she had done something to invite his behavior. “It is unfair he’s put me or anyone else in this position,” Ms. Corry said. Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov said that with other allegations swirling around the entertainment world, they could no longer stay silent. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak,” Ms. Goodman said. Ms. Notaro said she was standing in support of those with the courage “to speak up against such a powerful figure,” she said, “as well as the multitude of women still out there, not quite ready to share their nightmares.”

No, it's not a pedophile ring, it's sexual assault

This ****ing blows.

He's definitely been my favorite comedian the past 5 years or so and he's been awesome on Conan.

Good catch. The two are getting blurred these days due to the sheer volume of both happening.

This. Sexually harassing women does not equal molesting children bought off a black market pedo ring ran by Hillary Clinton...and then eating them.

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Wow. Louis CK is ****ing ****ed up.

How does someone just whip out their cock and start masturbating to a woman, especially at work? Or just ask some woman out of the blue "Hey, wanna watch me jack it?".

That's some seriously ****ed up shit. Good god.

So he asks 2 chicks that came to his hotel room if he can take out his penis. They don't say no, then continue to sit there until he's done masturbating.

He asked another woman if she would watch him masturbate, she said no, and that was it

He asked another woman to watch him masturbate and she obliged

And another claims he was masturbating over the phone

He obviously has issues but didn't force himself upon anyone

That is indeed crazy ****ed up shit.
All these allegations make me feel my sex life is very tame.

Dude apparently likes to jerk it.

:facepalm:

It's an abuse of power and a pattern of very disturbing behavior.

He's not a gas station attendant, he was a writer and producer on several late night TV shows and he's repped by the most powerful agent in the comedy world.

His publicist is Lewis Kay?

Well, I wouldn't exactly compare sexual assault and unwanted male masturbation to a normal, healthy sex life.

Weinstein did this too. Is this some power thing? Not sexual? I've read rape is not about sex but power. Seems this is along the same lines.

God. Dammit.

Love Louis CK. And there's nobody out there that feels more genuine than he does. You really can't trust any of these damn guys.

As for the jerkin' vs. ****in' thing...well as macabre as it is, there IS a sliding scale here and while jerking it in front of some girl is certainly not good, forcible rape is considerably worse. Even the cretins have some kind of line I guess?

Yeah, my first thought when these stories started coming out was, "Who the hell thinks women are turned on by that?" But I'm sure it's a power thing (maybe even subconsciously so): I'm going to embarrass and humiliate you, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Sick stuff.

Louis CK isn't and wasn't a very good looking guy (and his ex-wife is about a 3), so he may have some sort of complex that prohibits him from actually forcing himself upon women so instead, he uses his power in the industry to fulfill his fantasies by masturbating while they watch him.

I don't know. It's ****ed up. Jesus.

What's weird is that he showed his wiener more than a few times on his HBO show Louie, which I thought was a strange move, especially since he was sharing scenes with Pamela Adlon, who's never said anything about knowing that Louis is/was ****ed up.

On a side note, I have a friend that's worked on the Conan show since it moved to Los Angeles, and we've about Bill Burr and Louis CK's amazing appearances on the show over the years.

He's said that everyone on staff goes crazy when Burr and CK are the guests and they're really beloved. Never a word about this kind of weirdness.

Burr is also among my favorites. I'm sure he sends dick picks to nuns.

Oh well; at least I made peace with my antagonistic nature towards pretty much the entire entertainment community over the last 18 months or so. That makes this whole thing kinda fun.

Turns out the entire lot of preachy assholes seems to have in some way known about this kind of shit and just made sure to keep a lid on it. Great group of fellas out there.

Those are two of my three favorite comedians. CK, Burr and Tosh.

Man, I hope not but who the **** knows?

Some of these guys that have been exposed haven't been a shock, like Weinstein or Piven. Piven's always considered himself to be a "player" and with the success of Entourage, took it to another level.

But as I said in the DC thread, Spacey finally coming out as gay isn't a shock, since I've heard that for 20 years but underage child molestation? The guy is ****ing done.

As for Charlie Sheen, nothing is shocking anymore but at least this time, he didn't have "cover" from his PR people or a terrorist attack in France, which took the attention away from his AIDS revelation.

Good grief, it's like he wants people to know:

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Ive seen every episode and maybe its the several beers Ive had but I cant recall ever seeing Louis' package.

There was definitely an episode, of which season I can't remember, in which he shows his wiener. It was like at the end of an episode that resulted he and Pamela Adlon's character hopping into bed.

I thought it was pretty bizarre at the time and maybe even moreso, now.

Here's a link to Ricky Gervais mentioning a scene on Conan

Ricky Gervais relays a tale of seeing Louis CK naked during a scene for ‘Louie’. He really knows how to paint a picture.

http://theinterrobang.com/ricky-gerv...s-awful-penis/

Here's another mention of it:

And flaccid wieners—including, most memorably, Louis C.K.’s in Lucky Louie—have flitted across HBO productions, helping the network earn its annual shower of Emmys.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...erections.html

We have a Chief fan down here whose brother is a long time writer for Conan.

I just saw Bill Burr live a couple of weeks ago. The dude still brings it and doesn't care who he offends. I bet he's done something he shouldn't have in his career.

Why would you want to wack it and have people watch? Wouldn't that be super embarassing? Very strange people out there.

I think its a power thing, not a sex thing.

That was Lucky Louie. Small delineation.

Also **** Louis for life after this.

This is ****ing heartbreaking. Kind of makes sense though...he mentions jerking off a ton in his act. Honestly, I'm hoping he can come out of this and still perform for the public. I guess I'm a selfish asshole but it'd suck to see him drop off into obscurity.

Larry David better come out of this wave clean.

what a jerk

I say that all the time. I guess they think $$$$$$$$$ gives them the right? Above the law?? It's a shame. :shrug::shrug:
What really kills me is a lot of these "coming out's" happened YEARS ago in a lot of the cases and are just now being brought up.

Well, Louis CK is done for the foreseeable future.

His new film release was scrapped, HBO announced Thursday that it will remove all of CK's past work from its on-demand viewing services and that the comedian will no longer be participating in Night of Too Many Stars: America Unites for Autism Programs, which will air live Nov. 18 on HBO.

His planned Netflix comedy special has been scrapped as well, although there's no word as to whether or not they'll remove his existing work yet.

I can't imagine this not affecting Secret Lives of Pets 2 as well.

What a mess.

Which raises an interesting point.

What if some of these folks have had true 'come to jesus' kind of moments in the last 10 years. They were asshole's and bullies in their 20s; matured, came to appreciate how awful they were being, etc....

If you're that person, do you draw the sting? Do you get out in front, announce your indiscretions and detail the steps you took to overcome them? Or do you just sit there and hope that nobody you ever wronged publicizes it.

There clearly isn't a statute of limitations on public scorn at this point, so you have to actually manage the problem rather than just hope it stays buried. If you've become a better person and attempted to move beyond a period where you were just a shitty human being, what do you do?

This is the first celebrity that I actually like that's a part of this string of sexual assault allegations. He's somebody I really identified with, in terms of being a middle aged guy that just seems to get my own sense of humor. And now this. I almost feel dirty by proxy. And not in a good way.

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If Louie had followed Tig’s advice and come clean with this before the bombshell report, perhaps this is a different conversation.

Same if he hadn’t had his manager intimatidate, silence and even ruin the careers of multiple female comedians, reporters and writers.

Seriously, **** this guy forever.

Louie's deal is pretty clear, IMO. He knows he's a sexual deviant, he's talked about it for years on end in his stand up and now, in his new movie, a 68 year old man is hitting on his 17 year old daughter while Charlie Day (Louie) is a chronic masturbater.

As I mentioned earlier, it's like he wanted people to know.

I can see scenario in which he disappears for a few years and goes through intense therapy, then comes back to explain it all in a way in which only he can explain, and people will forgive him.

Or not.

his new tell all book
"...Don't Mind If I Do", scheduled for release Christmas 2020.

I saw Tig Notaro interviewed about him when her show aired and she was just wrecked because his name is all over her work as a producer. That was months ago. How did his publicity people keep it so contained when it was already public? That is bizarre and worth a NYT article in and of itself.

For anyone who thinks this is just a Hollywood thing, you are deluded. Every job or past time or pursuit has this problem. My first minimum wage job, the owners son groped me. At the Pizza Hut I worked at in high school, our female manager was a warrior at protecting her employees from the creep of a regional manager who came through town occasionally. A woman executive at a Kansas City company I did some volunteer work with during the fund raising for the war memorial used to ask men and women to touch her tits. Sports coaches do this shit. Church leaders do this shit. Dads do this to babysitters. On and on and on. It is time to stop them all.

Yes b ut Conan have the balls to invite him on right now?

It wouldn't matter: It's not Colbert or other outlets that have cancelled CK's appearances, it's CK himself.

There's no way he goes on a talk show any time in the near future.

"I want to address the stories told to the New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not," C.K. wrote in a statement released by his publicist, Lewis Kay.

"These stories are true," he admitted. "At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my (penis) without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your (penis) isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly."

Louie's official statement (as released by his PR agent):

"I have been remorseful of my actions. And I've tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I’m aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.

I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it. There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.

I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.

The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I’d be remiss to exclude the hurt that I’ve brought on people who I work with and have worked with whose professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of Better Things, Baskets, The Cops, One Mississippi, and I Love You, Daddy. I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I’ve brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much: The Orchard who took a chance on my movie, and every other entity that has bet on me through the years.

I’ve brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother.

I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen. Thank you for reading."

This goes right along with what I've heard about a few stand up comics; that they're severely f**ked up people personally.

Some of my proudest accomplishments were what others would call indiscretions. Later in life they are memories that keep you going. and your blood pumping. I think I will leave it at that...

Think of the things you have done when you were young that would possibly be criminal today?

That's probably about as honest of a statement as he could have put out there. I don't know if it will do him any good, certainly not in the short term, but at least he was stand up enough to own it all. Doesn't absolve him of his actions, just saying.

And he didn't even try to hide under the rainbow. Either way, tits up for Louie.

That isn't news.

Richard Pryor was a coke freak (who burned himself severely while freebasing cocaine), Richard Lewis was a massive alcoholic, Sam Kinison, well, was Sam Kinison and so on.

guess I've lived a boring life because yeah... no skeletons of anything close to anything actionable in my past. I don't think it's weird to expect people to keep their dicks in their pants unless invited to take it out. just a thought.

Good grief.

The only thing I did while I was young that would have been criminal today, was drinking and driving, which was criminal then and resulted in a DUI.

I haven't driven while drinking since and with Uber & Lyft, anyone that drinks and drives is a butt****ing moron.

Actionable? No. Thing I don't my daughters to know? YES!

All the things we used to do that were fun were outlawed by the people who didn't get in on the fun when they were younger.

It's a good apology by the extremely low standards that have been set, but he never actually says "sorry" or "I apologize," nor does he explicitly admit what he did was wrong. Defending his likely-scummy manager for "mediating" (read: intimidating victims into silence) is a bad move, too. Definitely better than Spacey's "I don't remember" or Weinstein's "I'm from a different era" or Cosby's outright denial, but still not quite good enough.

CK was one of my favorite standups for a long time, but when the rumors started to heat up a few years ago, I felt a lot less inclined to watch his stuff. I never bothered with Horace and Pete and didn't watch the last couple specials. I'll be fine never watching his stuff again, but it always sucks to find out somebody you genuinely liked and admired is a piece of shit.

Everyone's cancelled their deals with him, including FX. He's done for a LONG time.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...dal/851769001/

Louis C.K. scandal: FX, Netflix, publicist cut ties after admission of sexual misconduct

FX Networks announced late Friday afternoon that it was cutting ties with comedian Louis C.K. after he admitted to sexual misconduct with five women, as revealed by The New York Times.

"Today, FX Networks and FX Productions are ending our association with Louis C.K," representative Jesse Hiestand confirmed to USA TODAY in a statement. "We are canceling the overall deal between FX Productions and his production company, Pig Newton. He will no longer serve as executive producer or receive compensation on any of the four shows we were producing with him: Better Things, Baskets, One Mississippi and The Cops."

The statement continued, "Louis has now confirmed the truth of the reports relating to the five women victimized by his misconduct, which we were unaware of previously. As far as we know, his behavior over the past 8 years on all five series he has produced for FX Networks and/or FX Productions has been professional. However, now is not the time for him to make television shows. Now is the time for him to honestly address the women who have come forth to speak about their painful experiences, a process which he began today with his public statement.

Their decision came hours after comedian's publicist, Lewis Kay, released C.K.'s written remarks. (Hours later, Kay tweeted that he was no longer representing C.K.)

Early Friday morning, I Love You, Daddy distributor Orchard Films announced that the film company would be scrapping C.K.'s new movie, which was slated to open in limited release on Nov. 17. “The Orchard will not be moving forward with the release of I Love You, Daddy," the statement reads. The shelving follows the cancellation of the movie's New York premiere, originally scheduled for Tuesday.

Next, streaming service Netflix announced it would not be moving forward with its second planned C.K. standup special, the follow-up to the comedian's 2017 released in April. “The allegations made by several women in the New York Times about Louis C.K.’s behavior are disturbing," Netflix told USA TODAY in a statement provided by spokesperson Karen Barragan. "Louis' unprofessional and inappropriate behavior with female colleagues has led us to decide not to produce a second stand up special, as had been planned.”

CK isn't young. Wasn't that young when incidents occurred. Fapping in front of others is hardly something to be proud of.

Yep. Tits up. Hopefully for him, he made better decisions with his money than he did with his dick.

Yep, officially dropped from Secret Lives of Pets 2

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...pets-2-1057267

"Universal Pictures and Illumination have terminated their relationship with Louis C.K. on The Secret Life of Pets 2," reads a statement from the studio.

You have almost certainly molested someone.

TY

'ER' Actor Anthony Edwards Accuses Producer Gary Goddard of Molestation


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ha...tation-n819901

Jesus. What the **** is wrong with you?

I had a gal who liked to role play, I had her dress up as a catholic school girl,
but she was of age, believe me.
I have never considered going into the gray area on that one.

Edwards: Where is your best friend now?

Wow, this paints even a broader picture. I just don't know how Louis CK can recover from this. Jesus.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/...ors_picks=true

The sexual harassment allegations against Louis C.K., explained

A new report sheds light on the sexual harassment rumors that have dogged the comedian for years.
Updated by Caroline Framke@carolineframkecaroline.framke@vox.com Nov 10, 2017, 4:51pm EST

When the premiere of Louis C.K.’s new film I Love You, Daddy was abruptly canceled hours before it was set to begin, the distribution company the Orchard said it was “due to unexpected circumstances.” But some weren’t surprised at all. I Love You, Daddy revolves around C.K. playing a morally dubious TV writer whose teenage daughter starts a relationship with a man about 50 years her senior. (It may not surprise you to learn that the film is something of a Woody Allen homage.) Suffice it to say, eyebrows were already well and truly raised by that premise. But the other layer of skepticism surrounding this movie is rooted in the rumors of sexual harassment that have quietly dogged C.K. for years. Now, a little over a month after it broke the many allegations against Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein, the New York Times has released a new report in which several women claim C.K. used his power in the comedy world to sexually harass and intimidate them.

The report details the accounts of five women, spanning the mid-’90s to 2005. Each woman recounts startlingly similar situations in which C.K., an established comedian, either asked them to watch him masturbate or forced them to do so. In the wake of these accounts, HBO has announced C.K. will no longer be appearing in Jon Stewart’s upcoming Night of Too Many Stars fundraising show, nor will his past shows be available on HBO anymore. Netflix says it will not move forward with his next planned standup special. FX, which has worked with C.K. for eight years, has released a statement cutting ties with both him and his production company, specifically stating he will “no longer serve as executive producer or receive compensation.” The day after the report, the Orchard announced it would be canceling the release of I Love You, Daddy altogether.

To most, C.K. is known as a smart, bracing, often filthy comic who relishes making people uncomfortable. Both on his TV shows and in his standup, he alternates between being the forthright guy who knows better than everyone else and the self-loathing, out-of-touch guy who realizes he knows nothing at all. His critically acclaimed shows — namely the autobiographical Louie and the experiment in sparseness Horace and Pete — are often heralded (including by Vox) as uniquely smart, the kinds of shows that will tell ugly truths few others will touch.

C.K. is also known, in certain comedy circles, as someone with a reputation for cornering women in order to masturbate in front of them.

But the allegations of such behavior remained rumors, whispered backstage and in comments sections. The story remained, as the Times puts it, “unsubstantiated,” making it difficult to pin down. Even when C.K. has been asked about such allegations directly — especially in conjunction with his own material, in which he often paints himself as a passionate masturbation enthusiast — he’s been vague enough that the story remained nebulous. He’s never issued denials so much as dismissed the allegations as irrelevant distractions. “I don’t care about that,” he told Vulture in 2016 when pressed about the allegations. “That’s nothing to me. That’s not real.” He continued, “if you need your public profile to be all positive, you’re sick in the head. I do the work I do, and what happens next I can’t look after.”

The day after the Times report dropped, C.K. issued a much different statement, beginning with, “These stories are true.”

“At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true,” C.K. wrote. “But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.” Many C.K. fans who heard about the allegations were loath to believe that a man who could be so forthright about some of the hardest topics to parse comedically could have this other side to him. Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, two Chicago comics who met C.K. at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in 2002, told the Times that when they tried to tell people about C.K. stripping naked and masturbating in front of them, the reception was … chilly. “Guys were backing away from us,” Wolov said. “We could already feel the backlash.” But now, 15 years after the alleged incident and a month after the Weinstein allegations have rippled far beyond Hollywood, C.K.’s accusers have found themselves in a far different environment from the one that threatened to freeze them out of comedy — one in which they might even be believed.

Allegations against Louis C.K. have swirled around the comedy world since at least the early 2000s

The rumors circled C.K. for years, largely in local comedy communities, with younger female comics warning each other about C.K.’s alleged behavior. The first major attempt to report on said rumors came when Gawker ran a blind item in 2012 that at the time was widely believed to be about C.K.: We've heard from several sources that this shameless funnyman whips [his penis] out at the most inopportune moments, often at times when his female companions have expressed no interest in watching him go at it. A representative example: At the Aspen Comedy Festival a few years ago, he invited a female comedy duo back to his hotel room. The two ladies gladly joined him, and offered him some weed. He turned it down, but asked if it would be OK if he took his dick out. Thinking he was joking (that's exactly the kind of thing this guy would say), the women gave a facetious thumbs up. He wasn't joking. When he actually started jerking off in front of them, the ladies decided that wasn't their bag and made for the exit. But the comedian stood in front of the door, blocking their way with his body, until he was done.

In a twist, comic Doug Stanhope shared the blind item on Facebook claiming that it was about him; at least a few commenters disagreed.

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The New York Times’s new report appears to identify the two female comics from that blind item as Goodman and Wolov, who said they met C.K. at the Aspen festival in 2002. What started as a post-show nightcap, they say, became something else very quickly. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” says Goodman. In 2015, Gawker confirmed that the blind item was about C.K. in a post that then detailed how “a tipster” had reached out directly to C.K. and point blank asked him to “please stop sexually assaulting comics.” C.K. apparently responded and asked to speak on the phone, which they briefly did, but not to the tipster’s satisfaction. And so the tipster relayed to Gawker, while sparing identifying details, that he had a couple of friends who had recounted uncomfortable incidents involving C.K. to him. One of those, he said, included a time in 2014 when “C.K. had come up to [his friend] at a comedy club, grabbed her by the back of the neck, leaned into her ear, and said ‘I’m going to **** you.’”

At this point, the allegations became loud enough that when comedian Jen Kirkman described a horrible encounter she had with “a very famous comic [who] is probably Cosby level at this point” on her podcast I Seem Fun, many assumed she was talking about CK. Said Kirkman:

He is lauded as a genius. He is basically a French filmmaker at this point. You know, new material every year. He’s a known perv. And there’s a lockdown on talking about him. His guy friends are standing by him, and you cannot say a bad thing about him. And I’ve been told by people, “Well, then say it then. Say it if it’s true.” If I say it, my career is over. My manager and my agent have told me that. They didn’t threaten it. They just said to me “You know what, Jen, it’s not worth it because you’ll be torn apart. Look at the Cosby women.” And this guy didn’t rape me, but he made a certain difficult decision to go on tour with him really hard. Because I knew if I did, I’d be getting more of the same weird treatment I’d been getting from him. And it was really ****ed up, and this person was married. So it was not good, and so I hold a lot of resentment.

Kirkman later vehemently denied that she was talking about C.K., whom she once considered something like a mentor. (She deleted the podcast episode in question.) As recently as this September, she tried to set the record straight to the Village Voice, insisting that she never implied it was C.K. and thinks “this might be a case of there’s nothing there,” but that if allegations against him did come out, she’d “totally back them, because I believe women.”

Cut to now, when the tidal wave of sexual assault victims coming forward with their experiences following Weinstein’s downfall officially reached C.K.’s shores.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Though he apologized for his one time comment to me, I will no longer casually call Louie a friend. I can&#39;t support what I now KNOW are his contributions to the power dynamic in this business.</p>&mdash; JEN KIRKMAN (@JenKirkman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JenKirkman/status/928723944122621952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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All the accounts of sexual harassment in the Times’s new report depend on one crucial thing: a distinct power imbalance between C.K. and the women he reportedly pursued. Goodman and Wolov described agreeing to join C.K. for a nightcap at the comedy festival because “he was a comedian they admired.” Abby Schachner recalled how she “admired [his] work,” but when she called to invite him to one of her shows over the phone in 2003, she could hear him masturbating over the phone. Rebecca Corry said C.K. asked her to watch him masturbate while on the set of a television pilot she was shooting, which was going to be a big step in her career. (Courteney Cox, an executive producer of that pilot, confirmed the incident to the Times.)

One woman, who spoke to the Times anonymously, said that when she worked at The Chris Rock Show in her early 20s, writer-producer C.K. persistently asked her to watch him masturbate:

“It was something that I knew was wrong,” said the woman, who described sitting in Louis C.K.’s office while he masturbated in his desk chair during a workday, other colleagues just outside the door. “I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she continued. “He abused his power.”

There were a couple of times when C.K. allegedly reached out to the women involved, seemingly contrite. Both Schachner and Corry told the Times C.K. had tried to apologize, chalking the incidents up to “a bad time in his life.” But Corry bristled when his apology to her in 2015 seemed to mix up her incident with another — “When he phoned her, he said was sorry for shoving her in a bathroom” — and explained that he “used to misread people.” This, Corry felt, “implied she had done something to invite his behavior.”

C.K., as a hugely popular and influential comedian, is incredibly well-connected in Hollywood, through both the people he works with and the people who work for him. Part of the Times report hinges on the alleged involvement of C.K.’s manager Dave Becky, who Goodman and Wolov say was angry about them spreading the story about his client. Becky denies the charge that he made any overt threats, but he too is a man with plenty of power to wield. As the Times points out, Becky also represents comedians like Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari, and Amy Poehler. Goodman and Wolov said that when they moved to Los Angeles after that comedy festival, they knew they couldn’t work on projects involving Becky or those he might represent — which, as it turns out, takes a whole lot of people out of the running.

C.K. has worked with many, many comedians and writers who have supported him over the years. In the wake of the Times’s report, some are already publicly reckoning with what they had heard about him, like Mike Schur, creator of Parks and Recreation:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don&#39;t remember when I heard the rumors about him. But I&#39;m sure it was before the last time he was on Parks and Rec. And that sucks. And I&#39;m sorry.</p>&mdash; Ken Tremendous (@KenTremendous) <a href="https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/928718528726704128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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But at least one had already publicly distanced herself before the Times report broke, citing his alleged behavior. This past August, Tig Notaro — a comedian whom C.K. had promoted prior to executive producing her Amazon show One Mississippi — acknowledged the rumors and unequivocally called on C.K. to handle them. “I think it’s important to take care of that, to handle that, because it’s serious to be assaulted,” Notaro told the Daily Beast. “It’s serious to be harassed. It’s serious, it’s serious, it’s serious.” Notaro also told the Daily Beast she and C.K. had had a falling out and that he is no longer involved with One Mississippi, which in its second season featured a storyline about a man cornering a woman and masturbating. When asked for comment by the New York Times, Notaro expressed her fear that C.K.’s previous support of her work felt like “he knew it was going to make him look like a good guy, supporting a woman.” She then went on to say that she had heard directly from women he allegedly harassed, including two the Times interviewed.

But just because Notaro now believes these women doesn’t mean every comedian who has worked with C.K. will. In fact, even if they do, there’s no guarantee they will even care. After all, comedy — most especially C.K.’s — is built on a foundation of blurred boundaries; what’s a little jerking off between friends? If you ask the women he allegedly harassed, those blurred boundaries meant humiliation and isolation from a community they were striving to join. They meant years of being dismissed as histrionic and intimidated into silence. But now that so many powerful men are getting called out for years of rampant misbehavior, they’re finally ready to reject it publicly.

“Because of this moment, as gross as it is,” Wolov told the Times, “we feel compelled to speak.”

Get your mind out of the gutter.

I like to drive fast. Something wrong with that? :D:D:D

Speeding at excessive rates is something most who know me, take as a given...

Yes I have eluded a peace officer.

I wouldn't want my daughters, nor my mother to know that, nor my parishioner, or my..., or my,,,,

That is what an indiscretion is isn't it? behavior or speech that is indiscreet or displays a lack of good judgment

So, if I understand correctly. Telling you to shove a old baseball bat up your ass IS NOT and indiscretion. You having to have the sprinters surgically removed IS.

Get his mind out of the gutter? You're a ****ing reerun for bragging about your "indiscretions" in a thread about a celebrity ruining his own career from sexual misconduct.
reerun.

I would change the second reerun to idiot...you don't need two reeruns.

My post regarding indiscretions were not sexual. As stated by ptlyon, I have hookers for that.

DMC's response was not sexual either.
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13210104) Good grief. The only thing I did while I was young that would have been criminal today, was drinking and driving, which was criminal then and resulted in a DUI. I haven't driven while drinking since and with Uber & Lyft, anyone that drinks and drives is a butt****ing moron.

FHC chimes in with a insinuative comment.
I respond. I also gave an definition of a indiscretion and an example.:D:D

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13211043) Get your mind out of the gutter. I like to drive fast. Something wrong with that? :D:D:D Speeding at excessive rates is something most who know me, take as a given... Yes I have eluded a peace officer. I wouldn't want my daughters, nor my mother to know that, nor my parishioner, or my..., or my,,,, That is what an indiscretion is isn't it? behavior or speech that is indiscreet or displays a lack of good judgment So, if I understand correctly. Telling you to shove a old baseball bat up your ass IS NOT and indiscretion. You having to have the sprinters surgically removed IS.

I believe that DMC mentioned indiscretions that were non sexual that people would look at you harshly or in a less favorable manner because of your actions. He mentioned a traffic related incident that he considers an act of indiscretion and others look down on judgmentally for for those actions. I bet there are a lot of people who have never bore the facts to friends or loved ones of the fact that they were convicted of a DUI. Yet I do not see you calling him out as a "reerun" Wait. "****ing reerun: reerun."

I related to a my indiscretions that occurred because of my poor judgment resulting from driving fast and failing to respect the law's authority by eluding the police. I certainly am not proud of the circumstances I placed innocent bystanders, the police, and myself in. I certainly would not want my children, my mother , my boss, my ... to know of those acts of poor judgment as I would certainly be seen through their eyes as a lesser person.

Driving fast: Would I do it again? Sure.
Would I attempt to allude an officer who was upholding the law by stopping me? Never again.
I go to "Track Day" events such as Heartland Park Touring Club and get it out of my system as best I can. But I still speed, does that make me a reerun? If so: Be my guest, call me : reerun.

You, Superturtle, you picked a great handle, sometimes they say so much about a person (I'll forgo the explanation) seem to have indiscretion of your own that you are surely not proud of, as it appears that you should have stayed in school past the seventh grade. ****ing retart, retart.

You have almost certainly molested someone.

Damn! :eek:

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Depends. Trump admitted to sexual assault. Purposely going into pageant contestants, many were minors, dressing room to see them naked. We know how that turned out.

Good take on it. I think if there wasn't so much momentum on the side of taking down all these guys, he wouldn't have lost all his deals with FX and netflix and be forced to disappear. He didn't rape anyone, just did some weird pervy shit.

Pervy?

He forced women to watch him jack off.

That’s a mental disorder at least and a power trip at most.

Probably both.

Is it confirmed he forced any of them to watch him jack off?

Anyway, I don't want to defend it much because it's still ****ed up. But Bill burr was right about there needing to be a sliding scale. Cosby was still doing standup after all the rape accusations came out.

Yes

Different era. Bill Clinton isn't president if those accusations occurred in 2017.

Has anyone seen demonpenz and Louis c k in the same room

Why do they include the LOUIS CK ONE TIME TOLD A FEMALE HE WAS GOING TO **** HER AT A COMEDY SHOW! Okay so?

Stick with the blocking the door beating off, that is your best bet to defame this man.

It speaks to his overall character. He defamed himself. And it sucks all around.