I hope Clark is using every bit of pull he has to get uncapped QB contracts in the next CBA.

We get a franchise and transition tag this next offseason.

What - like the QB contract doesn't count against the cap? ROFL

...are they capped now?

There was talk of it awhile ago.

That would be stupid as hell. Why should 1 players salary be exempt from the salary cap?

I don't know enough about the transition tag to know if it gives you the ability to 'secure' a player's rights and trade them.

I know it gives us the right to match a deal, but opposing teams won't really care about that and with so many teams having a ton of cap space, it won't be difficult to structure one in a way that makes it REAL hard for the Chiefs to match.

And as there's no compensation in return to the Chiefs if they don't match, it won't do anything to prevent teams from throwing gobs of money at him if they want to.

Ultimately I could see it allowing us to secure some nominal value; maybe a 3rd rounder or something for a team with a ton of cap space that knows they can match whatever an opposing team offers him, but even that assumes that they are allowed to to a 'tag and trade' on a transition tag. I mean....I guess they could.

So it's better'n nothin'.

Every non-QB in the league is trying to figure out how to get some of these mediocre QB salaries reallocated into other positions.

I mean they have a mechanism for it already when they determine franchise tag values based on positions. Why couldn't they also have different cap configurations for different positions?

But the other thing that would serve to do is make the league even more 'have/have not' than it already is. There's such a clear line of demarcation between the teams with elite passers and those that don't have one. If you allow teams an 'uncapped' QB position to just spend as much as they want on that one guy and still be on equal footing vs. the cap everywhere else, that force multiplier effect that a great QB has becomes even stronger.

Oh, and think long and hard before you decide you really want that. Right now the Cowboys can offer something kinda crazy to pry him out of here but are still constrained by the cap. You uncap the QB position though and Jerry Jones, the ****ing ancient billionaire who can't take it with him, will throw so much money at Mahomes that Clark Hunt may simply lack the financial wherewithal to match it.

I think the last thing I'd want is an uncapped QB position because everybody and their mothers will be coming after Mahomes with reckless abandon. At that point it's all about which team's owner has the best cash position and Clark Hunt isn't gonna win that war.

Josh Norman was talking on tv last year about capping what QB's can make because it's screwing the rest of them over, don't think players don't think about this shit.

Exactly. The best part about the NFL is just how hard building a roster is because of the cap. Make the QB position uncapped and a lot of shitty GMs will start looking good because their owners will just throw money around like it's nothing. It won't be just the QBs getting stupid money too. Because if you can pay 50 million to Mahomes and it not count against the cap, that leaves 190MM in salary cap dollars you can spend. So now you can overpay for just about every position to get the best talent around him. That takes all the skill out of being a GM and would be the worst thing to happen in the NFL.

Uncapping anything isn't very bright, however using a cap for each position could work out.

What about a designated uncapped player? You can designate one player's non-rookie contract as uncapped, and you can only designate players you are re-signing and not for free agents.

QBs would be the biggest beneficiaries of this type of deal but it frees up money for other players.

There’s no really good answer for it. But if next year is really uncapped, extending Mahomes now and dumping a shioad of guaranteed money into base salary next year is a good way to go.

They prevented this in 2010 with the 30% rule. I’d imagine they have that in place again.

However, you could still maneuver to take advantage somewhat.

So Tyreek is good, Chris Jones is at camp...what else is there to worry about in camp now? If Dieter makes the team? Which backup TE makes the team?


Lol we've never been this set. Bring on the season.

CB is a position of concern. The "I word" could come into play. But yeah, comparatively we're in great shape right now.

I'm more concerned with Ragland than Ward

Anyone not a QB is really getting screwed because QB's are getting to the point where they will be soaking up 25% of a teams entire cap.

Not the best solution, but would at least be a way to address it. The downside is more Daniel Jones and Mitchell Trubisky's would be way overdrafted.

Injury is the only hurdle now

Maybe. There's a lot of variables and the Chiefs hold most of the leverage right now. He has to play this year out in order to accrue or the Chiefs get to keep his rights. So that secures this year.

Next year, he can be franchised.

The next year we may be in a new CBA.

People forget Aaron Donald also wanted a new contract before the end of his rookie deal. Didn't get it, and had to accrue. Got franchised the next year. Then signed his mega deal for the year after that.

It will certainly be interesting with Jones, Hill and Mahomes. About the only thing that is close to certain is that Mahomes will get his contract barring something really unforeseen.

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Definitely wont miss that clown

Don't be. Ragland might not even make the cut.

He's a potential trade candidate.

Staylor weeps. He loved that turd.

From your lips to the Stoolers' ears.

FAX

We don't use the "I" word in 2019, Mr. Hog's Gone Fishin.

We don't even think it.

FAX

There could be work arounds...Like QB's salaries only count up to a certain amount say $25 million. It would still offer teams with a rookie contracted QB a financial advantage. New contracts the exceed that hypothetical $25 million cant increase more than 10% over the top 3 paid QBs. It would prevent owners from paying $100 million a year for Rodgers.

It would also prevent teams like Dallas from getting stuck with a very expensive, average QB...Dak is going to get paid much more than he's worth because of the market.

It would keep a competitive balance...as the NFL shouldn't want top paid QBs with no money left to build around. It would also offer a lot more money for QBs...

There once was a team melancholy
‘Cause playoff attempts were mere folly.
Then in came Mahomes
Whose unique chromosomes
Brought them the scheme called "Air Wally".

FAX

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Jones shouldn't really care.
If he is part of a Super Bowl team he is getting PAID no matter what team it's with.

Go to the Super Bowl.... worry about your paycheck next offseason.

Because things were going so well with Houston and HoboSpirit’s contracts....

Chris Jones is a good player, but he and his attitudinal AIDS can get ****ed.

Yea loved him so much I didn’t want him re-signed whatsoever.

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I'd be surprised if that was the case, since Veach brought him here, if I am not mistaken?

I'm just joshin' ya.

I just don’t know where Ragland fits in with today’s NFL.

I get it

But still, go do your thing then you’ll get paid

Who would you rather pay? Jones and 20 mil per year or Hill 20 mil per year

Hill, but I don't think he'll get 20 mil

I’d pay the DL

As long as Andy is here I think he can develop WRs

Nobody is going to trade for Ragland

:rolleyes:

Yeah Ragland getting cut

Sherm is my least favorite Chief off the field..guy just acts like a hipster d-bag

ughh, do you know what a hipster is? cause sherm is nothing like one! lol at least from what i have seen

A hipster would show up in skinny jeans and a beanie with his double shot mochachino.

WTF?

Sherm is probably the least hipster person on the team asshole. That dude hunts and fishes, his folks and siblings are ****ing COPS!

Probably the most Conservative dude on the team! :rolleyes:

:facepalm:

conservative? showing up in a racecar and wearing a crash helmet to the interview?..

He tries to hard..

Dude.... tell me your trolling

You're picking a very strange hill to die on bud.

Attacking sausage will not end well for you with this fanbase, he's KC incarnate...

If this post is sarcasm I missed it and that's on me

That’s where I’m at, too.

The part about Hill that makes this an interesting debate is Hill has a chance at being a HOFer if he keeps clean and healthy.

Being able to watch Mahomes and Hill paired up the next 5-6 years is highly intriguing.

It's a truly ****ed-up turn of events, but we're just going to have to realize that life goes on and situations and people change.

If it makes you feel any better, he probably still doesn't have a whole lot of love for KC in general. Either that, or he appreciates how the majority of us pretty much told Gonzalez to go **** himself, which was the correct and appropriate thing to do all things considered.

It's a complex situation bro.

Hill is not just your standard Wr 1..he's also a flanker..tailback..punt returner

He's worth more than Chris Jones..

And if Mahomes has any say I it..which I believe he does Reek ain't going anywhere

You definetly had no idea what a hipster was LMAO

DTVietnam is my least favorite poster

a hipster is a person who does things they think are unique to get attention but in reality they are just following a trend. .

its not juts some pretentious kid with a french press and a deconstructed taco in a mason jar. .

Sherm showing up to TC always seeking attention and always having a gimmick..like whenever a hipster shows up to a party they are wearing something ironic or a costume..no different here

but yeah ..i understand people from KC liking him..i just think hes annoying. . when i see him in a spandex USA 1 piece I think of a hipster wearing some overalls or with a twisted mustache trying to get attention

lol sherm is not a hipster, thats a modern day hippy. lol

You know who wasn't a hipster? Ted Popson.

Sherm is just providing entertainment and I only remember him doing this showing up for camp every year and after that he's all business.

He's the best fullback in the NFL on the best team in the NFL. It's all good.

Sherm might be the ONLY fullback in the league.

That may be because he's so awesome everyone else quit...

It's TOO hard. It evidently is too hard for some people to know the difference between the two. (Since you're being an asshat about this I thought I'd be one too) :D

Some people here think Robinson might be traded for the right price. Giants might be a good suitor.

Coleman- out for season

Shepard- broken finger

Tate- facing 4 game suspension

Unless we could get a cheap, young player for him at a position of need, it makes zero sense. It's Super Bowl or bust this year.

I'd offer him for a 1st . They'll be picking top 10. If they don't bite ,**** them .DROB is good and Mahomy loves him.

I get the feeling that you are arguing for the sake of arguing...

Frankly, I don't give flying **** about the fashion sense, taste in music, preference in cars, personal hobbies etc of anybody on the team. I just care that they are awesome athletes that help my favorite football team win. That's all that really matters.

Sherman could be a gay circus clown from Zeta Reticuli that likes riding unicycles and pogo sticks...as long as he is doing a great job with the offense, we cool.

I don’t think you could get a 4th for him.

I know, keep him here.

Sherman showing up to camp is out of pure fun nothing more. No hidden agenda, passive aggressive nonsense like Ramsey.
Players showing up to camp is now part of the entertainment and some like to have fun.

I think they would have to be overwhelmed with a trade offer to move DRob. They're really gonna need him when Watkins misses his 6-10 games. This team is winning now and not rebuilding, so I think it would be an ill-advised move without major compensation in return.

Maybe a lower on the depth chart receiver for a corner?

I think Watkins took a different approach this off-season I'm not worried about him

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Also , as far as DROB there's a lot to be said about having players in your system that have been there for several years. You look at our offense and how much of it is in 2+ years of Reids system. Nearly everyone except Hardman.

Nah, the Pats have Devlin and it always seemed like the Pack had their own stocky whiteboi in the backfield every so often.

Then do it again this year, Chris

You’re a tool

I think the Donks have carried a FB too last couple years.

I love sherman he not too serious and seem to have fun with everybody.

Agreed and he's a hell of a clutch player!

This might be his last year with Chiefs, I can see him being more involved. Great guy.