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thecoffeeguy 05-10-2018 01:10 PM

Eating pork with slightly center pink question
 
Hey Folks.

Thought i would ask a hopefully, simple question since on cooking pork properly that i know very little about.

I was at a business lunch on Tuesday and we went to a Japanese place that served pork Tonkatsu (in fact, they had three items on the menu: 2 pork items, one sashimi bowl).

Long story short, as i was eating the Tonkatsu pork cutlet, i noticed it was a little pink in the middle. Full stop! I panicked because mom always said, cook your pork all the way through to kill any trichinosis. Scared the crud out of me and i stopped eating.

I did some research and it sounds like that it is ok to eat pork that has NOT been cooked all the way through and even with a pink center. This is due to the fact that trichinosis has pretty much been eradicated in the US when they changed how pigs are raised (feed grain/grass...no more meat scraps.) I read one article that said that in 2015 there were 50 reported cases of trichinosis, but the majority were from wild game (bear, boar etc.)

All that being said, have to admit, makes me a little nervous and the thought of getting trichinosis scares the dickens out of me.

For those that have more knowledge on the subject, this something i should be concerned about? I doublt it, but thought i'd ask other CP'ers.

ptlyon 05-10-2018 01:13 PM

Nice answer: You'll be fine
CP answer: Quit being a pussy

TambaBerry 05-10-2018 01:17 PM

**** that shit, cook pork all the way through

tyton75 05-10-2018 01:18 PM

You'll be fine

BlackHelicopters 05-10-2018 01:18 PM

Is your vag bleeding?
Also, cook pork all the way through.

dj56dt58 05-10-2018 01:20 PM

I had a couple friends die from this shit just last year..get to the hospital ASAP








Jk you’ll be fine

BlackHelicopters 05-10-2018 01:22 PM

Because Chiefs

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 05-10-2018 01:25 PM

going out to eat with you sounds like a nightmare.

eat your food and shut up.

Clyde Frog 05-10-2018 01:26 PM

"You'll be fine" - Chipotle

thecoffeeguy 05-10-2018 01:26 PM

Cant help but love the responses here....partly why i posted!

Simply Red 05-10-2018 01:28 PM

They've cleaned up the slop-houses since this issue - I'd say 22 yrs ago or so.

BWillie 05-10-2018 01:32 PM

I've seen high profile Chefs even say to leave the pork just a tad pink. I've never died. Never even got sick. STFU and shovel it into your mouth.

loochy 05-10-2018 01:33 PM

Pork is supposed to be red. Haven't you ever had Pork Tartar? You haven't lived until you have.
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Clyde Frog 05-10-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 13552653)
Pork is supposed to be red. Haven't you ever had Pork Tartar? You haven't lived until you have.
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Its on my bucket list, right under "Raw dogging South African hookers"

Abba-Dabba 05-10-2018 01:40 PM

If pork doesn't have a slight pink center, it isn't right. It's overdone.

Rain Man 05-10-2018 01:42 PM

Regardless, it probably doesn't hurt to offer your final farewells to your family. If you live, just tell them to disregard.

ptlyon 05-10-2018 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 13552666)
Its on my bucket list, right under "Raw dogging South African hookers"

Such asperations young man!

raybec 4 05-10-2018 01:45 PM

Pork needs to be slightly less pink in the middle than beef, but you can eat chicken raw.

Fire Me Boy! 05-10-2018 01:49 PM

Slightly pink. I usually cook mine to 135.

DaFace 05-10-2018 01:50 PM

If it's not a little pink, you've overcooked it. If you're doing it at home, use a meat thermometer. The end.

Ming the Merciless 05-10-2018 01:50 PM

just drink more and use beer to kill any germs

http://ot-foodspotting-production.s3...jpg?1304446115

Why Not? 05-10-2018 01:57 PM

I'm a pussy like you so whenever my wife makes some pork that is a little pink in the middle, I ask her about it. She generally answer with some sarcastic joke about already spending my life insurance policy. So, in short, it is fine to eat.

Clyde Frog 05-10-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13552677)
Such asperations young man!

“If you want the ultimate, you’ve got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It’s not tragic to die doing what you love.” – Bodhi

Chief Pagan 05-10-2018 02:06 PM

Sous Vide it to whatever level of pinkness* tickles your fancy.

Then cook the outside however you want it.

Best of both worlds.


*Ok, raw doesn't cut it. The FDA has guide lines and their relatively conservative guidelines say that 130 degrees for one hour is sufficient. This will still be pink but won't be sushi.

SPchief 05-10-2018 02:08 PM

You probably eat your chicken well done like a pussy right?

Lex Luthor 05-10-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13552705)
I'm a pussy like you so whenever my wife makes some pork that is a little pink in the middle, I ask her about it. She generally answer with some sarcastic joke about already spending my life insurance policy. So, in short, it is fine to eat.

It sounds like we'll be seeing you on "Monsters Inside Me" someday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZcsGe3FYF4

ptlyon 05-10-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13552705)
I'm a pussy like you so whenever my wife makes some pork that is a little pink in the middle, I ask her about it. She generally answer with some sarcastic joke about already spending my life insurance policy. So, in short, it is fine to eat.

I thought she'd say "It's just like my pussy, shut up and eat it"

BucEyedPea 05-10-2018 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecoffeeguy (Post 13552607)
Hey Folks.

Thought i would ask a hopefully, simple question since on cooking pork properly that i know very little about.

I was at a business lunch on Tuesday and we went to a Japanese place that served pork Tonkatsu (in fact, they had three items on the menu: 2 pork items, one sashimi bowl).

Long story short, as i was eating the Tonkatsu pork cutlet, i noticed it was a little pink in the middle. Full stop! I panicked because mom always said, cook your pork all the way through to kill any trichinosis. Scared the crud out of me and i stopped eating.

I did some research and it sounds like that it is ok to eat pork that has NOT been cooked all the way through and even with a pink center. This is due to the fact that trichinosis has pretty much been eradicated in the US when they changed how pigs are raised (feed grain/grass...no more meat scraps.) I read one article that said that in 2015 there were 50 reported cases of trichinosis, but the majority were from wild game (bear, boar etc.)

All that being said, have to admit, makes me a little nervous and the thought of getting trichinosis scares the dickens out of me.

For those that have more knowledge on the subject, this something i should be concerned about? I doublt it, but thought i'd ask other CP'ers.

It used to be said cook well to no pink. But today, many cooking sites say it's safe to have some pink. I never trust that though and cook well. Guess, it's no longer dogma though.
But of there are restaurants who will only cook a burger well done for safety reasons but not all of them insist on that.

Dartgod 05-10-2018 02:23 PM

I got violently ill from under cooked pork chops about 20 years ago. Never gain, it gets cooked well done in my house.

Kiimo 05-10-2018 02:37 PM

There hasn't been a case of Trichinosis from pork that isn't home-raised in decades.

Fire Me Boy! 05-10-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 13552753)
It used to be said cook well to no pink. But today, many cooking sites say it's safe to have some pink. I never trust that though and cook well. Guess, it's no longer dogma though.
But of there are restaurants who will only cook a burger well done for safety reasons but not all of them insist on that.



Not sure when, but it’s been fairly recently even the FDA lowered the safe temp cooking guidelines for pork. Used to be 160, it’s 145 now. Only 140 for ham.

Lex Luthor 05-10-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13552785)
There hasn't been a case of Trichinosis from pork that isn't home-raised in decades.

Feel free to eat pink pork if you want. I'll stick to fully-cooked.

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Over the last decade, between 100 and 150 human cases per year are reported in the United States. Many cases go undetected with less than 1% of the cases clinically diagnosed. An estimated 10 to 15 million people in the United States have been infected with trichinosis. An estimated 1.5 million Americans carry the parasite, and between 150,000 and 300,000 new infections occur each year.
https://www.brokenarrowranch.com/Art...richinosis.htm

ptlyon 05-10-2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13552797)
Feel free to eat pink pork if you want. I'll stick to fully-cooked.



https://www.brokenarrowranch.com/Art...richinosis.htm

The pussification of America continues...

srvy 05-10-2018 02:48 PM

Your a dead man! Get your affairs in order. Stomach cramps yet?

Great Expectations 05-10-2018 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 13552667)
If pork doesn't have a slight pink center, it isn't right. It's overdone.

Sponge worthy post.

Why Not? 05-10-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13552748)
I thought she'd say "It's just like my pussy, shut up and eat it"

Hahahaa. That would be Hawt!

Why Not? 05-10-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13552747)
It sounds like we'll be seeing you on "Monsters Inside Me" someday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZcsGe3FYF4

Perhaps.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-10-2018 03:52 PM

Lulz

MTG#10 05-10-2018 03:56 PM

People eat bear?

:Lin:

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-10-2018 04:33 PM

People are dumbasses. Just cook the god damn food to what you like and everything will be fine.. Pork ain't got no worms! Hell , they live in a more sterile environment than you do.

eDave 05-10-2018 04:53 PM

Inmem likes his very well done, with a side of house.

cabletech94 05-10-2018 06:29 PM

pork. gods gift to mankind.

Pablo 05-10-2018 06:36 PM

I cook pork to 140 if I'm at home. I've probably done this about 100 times now and the only thing I've ever experienced was juicier, better tasting pork. Still waiting on that PIGAIDS to get me I guess.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-10-2018 06:54 PM

People in Africa eat worms to survive anyway. **** off!

BlackHelicopters 05-10-2018 06:58 PM

Who among us doesn’t enjoy the slightly pink center?

chiefzilla1501 05-10-2018 07:06 PM

I've heard it's OK. But for every 2 bites of the pink you need to take a bite of something stinky.

scho63 05-10-2018 07:41 PM

Pork with a pink center?

Is this what you guys ate? :hmmm:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/51...ac24cfbda8.jpg

BucEyedPea 05-10-2018 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 13552682)
Pork needs to be slightly less pink in the middle than beef, but you can eat chicken raw.

You eat steak raw too. It's supposed to be healthier. It's dead when it's cooked.

tooge 05-10-2018 11:44 PM

They are correct. Pork should be medium.a tad bit of pink is just right

Over Yonder 05-11-2018 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 13553123)
Who among us doesn’t enjoy the slightly pink center?

I've said it on here before, the only pink I will eat has 2 legs and walks upright!! That's it! I won't even eat them pink bunny rabbit marshmallow things. Peeps I think they are called, not sure:hmmm:

I have climbed the food chain. I have moved past eating stuff like plankton, dirt, tree bark, and animals that are not cooked properly. But hey, that's just me. I went to school with a kid that would eat his own buggers. I guess you could call that self-sufficient nutrition :hmmm:

To each their own I guess:D

JD10367 05-11-2018 02:43 AM

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tmax63 05-11-2018 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13552904)
People eat bear?

:Lin:

I made a bear stew one time that was one of the best meals I ever had. It's a really rich red meat and if you get rid of the fat it's great.

Lex Luthor 05-11-2018 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13552802)
The pussification of America continues...

The dumbassery of ptlyon continues to grow exponentially.

cmh6476 05-11-2018 07:25 AM

as pink as your mom's bagina

Why Not? 05-11-2018 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Over Yonder (Post 13553352)
I've said it on here before, the only pink I will eat has 2 legs and walks upright!! That's it! I won't even eat them pink bunny rabbit marshmallow things. Peeps I think they are called, not sure:hmmm:

I have climbed the food chain. I have moved past eating stuff like plankton, dirt, tree bark, and animals that are not cooked properly. But hey, that's just me. I went to school with a kid that would eat his own buggers. I guess you could call that self-sufficient nutrition :hmmm:

To each their own I guess:D

So by this rationale, any meat not cooked well done is "not cooked properly"? Might as well eat some dried out leather.

scho63 05-11-2018 08:27 AM

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Before I moved out of Northern VA, there was a restaurant called Sweetwater Grill that served the BEST grilled pork chops I've ever eaten. They would brine them for a day and then cook them medium, with a slight pink center.

Things oozed juice and flavor and tenderness. So delicious! Ate them numerous times. :drool:

ct 05-11-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13552615)
Nice answer: You'll be fine
CP answer: Quit being a pussy

this

Pablo 05-11-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13553480)
So by this rationale, any meat not cooked well done is "not cooked properly"? Might as well eat some dried out leather.

Hockey puck hamburgers and sawdust pot roast! Just like mom used to make.

scho63 05-11-2018 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13553530)
Hockey puck hamburgers and sawdust pot roast! Just like mom used to make.

And shoe leather pork chops! ROFL

RealSNR 05-11-2018 11:21 AM

There's nothing worse than a tough, dry pork chop.

Personally, I cook my chops to about medium-well. There's just a faint hint of pink when they're done, but man they're good

cooper barrett 05-11-2018 11:30 AM

Trichinosis was bred out of pork by standardizing the breed for production farming.
You have a minimal chance to contract it by eating undercooked ground pork but chances are it was caused by an outside source not the meat itself.

I eat pork tenderloin smoked on the Med. rare side and prime cuts at Medium.

underEJ 05-11-2018 01:58 PM

I had pork tenderloin that was very pink at Tannin Wine Bar a couple of years ago and it was one of the best meals I have had. I didn't know how good pork was judging from mom's leathery pork chops all those years, so I rarely order it. Now I know, such a fine texture, right up there with a perfect filet mignon. (I know, I know, girly steak, whatever, I'm a girl.)

JoeyChuckles 05-11-2018 02:20 PM

thecoffeeguy Last post: Yesterday, 02:29 PM

Uh oh.......

thecoffeeguy 05-11-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 13553905)
thecoffeeguy Last post: Yesterday, 02:29 PM

Uh oh.......

ROFL

Stewie 05-11-2018 03:19 PM

Trichinosis is virtually gone in the US. There are only a handful of cases each year and they're mostly occupational infections rather than consumption.

The same goes for rabies. The number of humans getting rabies in the US is about 1 per year for the past several years. Once again, it's an occupational infection. Knowingly handling rabid animals (mostly bats) by researchers.

eDave 05-11-2018 03:22 PM

I just overcooked some pork the other day. Had to make spaghetti out of it.

I'm now remembering growing up on pork shoulders.

JakeLV 05-11-2018 05:11 PM

https://www.pork.org/cooking/pork-temperature/

You're fine dude. Unless you died. In which case, RIP.

Rain Man 05-11-2018 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13553665)
There's nothing worse than a tough, dry pork chop.

Personally, I cook my chops to about medium-well. There's just a faint hint of pink when they're done, but man they're good

I just had dinner with someone the other night who ordered a prime rib to be well done. I don't think prime rib works like that.

MTG#10 05-11-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13554103)
I just had dinner with someone the other night who ordered a prime rib to be well done. I don't think prime rib works like that.

I'm just going to assume that you have already decided to never speak to this person again.

Rain Man 05-11-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13554200)
I'm just going to assume that you have already decided to never speak to this person again.

Oh, of course.

Hoover 05-11-2018 07:11 PM

This:

http://gromaster.com/wp-content/uplo...tAe31Wgt3n.jpg

cooper barrett 05-12-2018 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underEJ (Post 13553882)
I had pork tenderloin that was very pink at Tannin Wine Bar a couple of years ago and it was one of the best meals I have had. I didn't know how good pork was judging from mom's leathery pork chops all those years, so I rarely order it. Now I know, such a fine texture, right up there with a perfect filet mignon. (I know, I know, girly steak, whatever, I'm a girl.)

I am a big fan of pork tenderloin (not the loin cut) and if you want a treat find Duroc (Sams?) or heirloom pork TL (organic of course) and smoke or Sous Vide.

ptlyon 05-12-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13554213)
Oh, of course.

I also hope that you kicked his Lilly ass

Why Not? 05-12-2018 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13554200)
I'm just going to assume that you have already decided to never speak to this person again.

Yeah, that's a friendship deal breaker.

cooper barrett 05-15-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13554103)
I just had dinner with someone the other night who ordered a prime rib to be well done. I don't think prime rib works like that.

You had dinner with Trump? I hear he orders his beef well done.

Restaurants put prime rib on a cook top (grill or griddle) to cook (burn) them to order.

Stewie 05-15-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13557490)
You had dinner with Trump? I hear he orders his beef well done.

Restaurants put prime rib on a cook top (grill or griddle) to cook (burn) them to order.

I quit trying to figure out why people order food the way they do. I used to travel for my job and met customers for dinner all the time. You wouldn't believe the requests that made me roll my eyes.

We did an experiment in culinary class that tested the pH of everyone's saliva. It was a wide range and there was a definite distinction in people's food preference based on the way they "taste" food. It was quite interesting.

BucEyedPea 05-15-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13554215)

I wouldn't touch that raw pig if you paid me.

MTG#10 05-15-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 13557799)
I wouldn't touch that raw pig if you paid me.

I have a feeling the same thing has been said about you a time or three

BucEyedPea 05-15-2018 06:08 PM

MTG#10 is projecting.

Fire Me Boy! 05-15-2018 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 13557799)
I wouldn't touch that raw pig if you paid me.



That’s far from raw.


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