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Hog's Gone Fishin 02-09-2013 08:10 AM

Top 10 at Key positions / NFL Draft
 
From the KCChiefs website:


Quarterbacks

1) Geno Smith – West Virginia (91.0)
2) Tyler Wilson – Arkansas (83.5)
3) Zac Dysert – Miami (OH) (83.5)
4) Matt Barkley – USC (82.0)
5) Mike Glennon – N.C. State (79.4)
6) Ryan Nassib – Syracuse (78.7)
7) EJ Manuel – Florida State (68.7)
8) Tyler Bray – Tennessee (67.8)
9) Landry Jones – Oklahoma (67.2)
10) Matt Scott – Arizona (55.4)

Running Backs

1) Giovani Bernard – North Carolina (84.0)
2) Eddie Lacy – Alabama (82.0)
3) Joseph Randle – Oklahoma State (80.6)
4) Andre Ellington – Clemson (79.7)
5) Stepfan Taylor – Stanford (75.6)
6) Montee Ball – Wisconsin (75.6)
7) Marcus Lattimore – South Carolina (74.9)
8) Johnathan Franklin – UCLA (72.3)
9) Christine Michael – Texas A&M (71.4)
10) Le’Veon Bell – Michigan State (71.2)

Wide Receivers

1) Cordarrelle Patterson – Tennessee (90.6)
2) DeAndre Hopkins – Clemson (87.8)
3) Keenan Allen – California (86.3)
4) Tavon Austin – West Virginia (85.4)
5) Quinton Patton – Louisiana Tech (83.8)
6) Terrance Williams – Baylor (83.6)
7) Robert Woods – USC (83.1)
8) Markus Wheaton – Oregon State (81.8)
9) Justin Hunter – Tennessee (81.8)
10) Stedman Bailey – West Virginia (79.0)

Offensive Line

1) Chance Warmack – OG-Alabama (95.9)
2) Luke Joeckel – OT- Texas A&M (95.3)
3) Erick Fisher – OT – Central Michigan (91.3)
4) Lane Johnson – OT- Oklahoma (86.9)
5) Jonathan Cooper – OG – North Carolina (86.9)
6) D.J. Fluker – OT – Alabama (85.5)
7) Larry Warford – OG – Kentucky (85.3)
8) Barrett Jones – OG – Alabama (85.1)
9) Dallas Thomas – OT – Tennessee (82.7)
10) Oday Oboushi – OT – Virginia (78.1)

Tight Ends

1) Tyler Eifert – Notre Dame (83.3)
2) Zach Ertz – Stanford (82.2)
3) Jordan Reed – Florida (80.5)
4) Travis Kelce – Cincinnati (80.0)
5) Gavin Escobar – San Diego State (79.0)
6) Philip Lutzenkirchen – Auburn (77.1)
7) Vance McDonald – Rice (76.0)
8) Chris Pantale – Boston College (68.5)
9) Dion Sims – Michigan State (67.0)
10) Levine Toilolo – Stanford (66.0)

Cornerbacks

1) Leon Sandcastle - ESPN (100)
1) Dee Milliner – Alabama (93.2)
2) Xavier Rhodes – Florida State (86.2)
3) Johnathan Banks – Florida International (84.4)
4) Desmond Trufant – Washington (84.1)
5) Robert Alford – Southeast Louisiana (81.1)
6) Leon McFadden – San Diego State (80.7)
7) Jamar Taylor – Boise State (79.5)
8) Blidi Wreh-Wilson – Connecticut (77.2)
9) David Amerson – N.C. State (74.4)
10) B.W. Webb – William & Mary (74.0)


Defensive Line

1) Barkevious Mingo – LSU - DE (92.8)
2) Star Lotulelei – Utah – DT (92.0)
3) Bjoern Werner – Florida State – DE (90.9)
4) Sheldon Richardson – Missouri – DT (90.7)
5) Sharrif Floyd – Florida – DT (90.3)
6) Ezekiel Ansah – BYU – DE (89.3)
7) Damontre Moore – Texas A&M – DE (89.2)
8) Dion Jordan – Oregon – DE (88.0)
9) Datone Jones – UCLA – DE (85.6)
10) Jesse Williams – Alabama – DT (85.5)

Linebackers

1) Arthur Brown – Kansas State – ILB (90.3)
2) Jarvis Jones – Georgia – OLB (88.8)
3) Manti Te’o – Notre Dame –ILB (87.5)
4) Alex Ogletree – Georgia – ILB (84.0)
5) Kevin Minter – LSU – ILB (84.0)
6) Sean Porter – Texas A&M – OLB (79.8)
7) Chase Thomas – Stanford – OLB (79.4)
8) Khaseem Greene – Rutgers – OLB (78.8)
9) Gerald Hodges – Penn State – OLB (72.4)
10) Michael Mauti – Penn State –ILB (71.8)

Safeties

1) Kenny Vaccaro – Texas – SS (87.7)
2) Eric Reid – LSU – FS (87.5)
3) John Cyprien – Florida International – FS (84.6)
4) D.J. Swearinger – South Carolina – SS (81.4)
5) Matt Elam – Florida – FS (80.0)
6) J.J. Wilcox – Georgia Southern – FS (77.0)
7) Shawn Williams – Georgia – SS (74.8)
8) Phillip Thomas – Fresno State – SS (74.1)
9) Tony Jefferson – Oklahoma – FS (73.2)
10) Zeke Motta – Notre Dame – SS (71.2)

Specialists (Of the Kickers and Punters receiving grades)

1) Dustin Hopkins – Florida State – K (69.5)
2) Quinn Sharp – Oklahoma State – K (61.9)
3) Caleb Sturgis – Florida – K (59.2)
4) Dylan Breeding – Arkansas – P (51.4)
5) Ryan Allen – Louisiana Tech – P (50.0)

cabletech94 02-09-2013 08:27 AM

why is luke not no.1 ot?



/true fan?

Messier 02-09-2013 08:37 AM

He is.

cabletech94 02-09-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9388953)
He is.

my sarcasm machine must be flaccid today.:shake:

RedandGold 02-09-2013 08:55 AM

Nice touch with the CB rankings

Chief Roundup 02-09-2013 09:03 AM

Link? Who is this from? Barkley is continuing his fall.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-09-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9388976)
Link? Who is this from? Barkley is continuing his fall.



http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...e-54f3b0d6f7fc

threebag 02-09-2013 09:17 AM

Leon Sandcastle to the muther****ing house

Chief Roundup 02-09-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 9388967)
my sarcasm machine must be flaccid today.:shake:

Warmack is an OG not an OT. It says that at the end of their names. Right there in black and white. It is not your sarcasm machine that is limp. :D

Sully 02-09-2013 09:44 AM

Five players rated above Smith, but at less needed positions.

Make it happen!

A Salt Weapon 02-09-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 9388992)
Leon Sandcastle to the muther****ing house

:-)
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-King- 02-09-2013 10:03 AM

We're getting Geno.
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wazu 02-09-2013 11:05 AM

I find it fascinating that the Chiefs are publishing this list.

milkman 02-09-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9389149)
I find it fascinating that the Chiefs are publishing this list.

I haven't looked at the list at the site, but I' guessing that it's a list put together by that guy from Minnesota, and in no way reflects the thinking of Dorsey and. Reid.

RealSNR 02-09-2013 11:24 AM

Jokeshit is only a 95? But Miller told me he was a once in a lifetime OT prospect.

The media is seriously suggesting we go with the 95 OT over the 91 QB?

**** man. Just ****.

KCrockaholic 02-09-2013 11:35 AM

Based on this Geno is rated as the 7th best prospect.

BossChief 02-09-2013 02:21 PM

Too risky. Off to guard you go, Albert.

Rausch 02-09-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9389211)
Based on this Geno is rated as the 7th best prospect.

:rolleyes:

Hammock Parties 02-09-2013 03:05 PM

Amazing how Landry Jones stock dropped like a rock over the last year.

Hammock Parties 02-09-2013 03:07 PM

Haha. This guy was at the top of Pioli's draft board. LMAO

Quote:

Tight Ends

1) Tyler Eifert – Notre Dame (83.3)
2) Zach Ertz – Stanford (82.2)
3) Jordan Reed – Florida (80.5)
4) Travis Kelce – Cincinnati (80.0)
5) Gavin Escobar – San Diego State (79.0)

wazu 02-09-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9389181)
I haven't looked at the list at the site, but I' guessing that it's a list put together by that guy from Minnesota, and in no way reflects the thinking of Dorsey and. Reid.

Yeah, I just think that's very dangerous for their PR department to do if they are not planning to draft QB. This analysis, published on their site, makes Geno look like a pretty clear-cut, no-brainer #1 for this team.

RealSNR 02-09-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9389662)
Amazing how Landry Jones stock dropped like a rock over the last year.

It's his own damn fault. He wanted that extra year in school. What for, I don't know. He had to have draft experts telling him, "Dude, you're not going to get any better or change anybody's mind. Declare now and maybe you can sneak in as a 2nd round pick"

Rausch 02-09-2013 03:54 PM

Other than Dion in a 'fro there is no clear stud in this draft.

Take the most talented player of need...

NJChiefsFan 02-09-2013 04:12 PM

Their website never seems to give any opinions at all. Just reactions and fluff pieces. No matter what I do or don't agree with here, I do like that they posted an actual opinion. That site is free to speak again for the first time in 4 years, even if it is still in a biased capacity.

Strongside 02-09-2013 04:33 PM

We must take Warmack at no. 1 overall.

milkman 02-09-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9389929)
We must take Warmack at no. 1 overall.

Clearly.

BPA

Rain Man 02-09-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9389666)
Haha. This guy was at the top of *****'s draft board. LMAO

What was his draft board? I haven't seen it.

Hammock Parties 02-09-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9390126)
What was his draft board? I haven't seen it.

4 of his top 5 are fat guys. And then a fat RB. Classic Pioli.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...ck/?xid=si_nfl

Quote:

This draft may have a record number of underclassmen, but it may not be the quality that people are expecting. How I see the top 10 juniors now, keeping in mind the fact-finding on them will be ongoing for the next three months before the draft:

1. Luke Joeckel, T, Texas A&M. Strong candidate for the first overall pick. Three-year starter at left tackle in the Big 12 and never red-shirted. A true height-weight-speed prospect who plays with good athleticism and body control. Will play early while he develops better hip and core strength. Good teammate too.

2. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama. One of the youngest players in the draft (20), but a very experienced corner from the best-coached DB group in the country. Milliner has the flexibility, intelligence and experience to play outside corner and also line up in the slot. Should contribute on special teams early in his career.

3. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida. Also 20, Floyd is a strong, athletic defensive lineman who, at 6-foot-3 and 303 pounds, has position and scheme versatility. Good competitor and tough player against the run and pass. Not great sack numbers, but consistently disruptive in the pass rush, and the type of player who makes those around him better by making the offense concentrate so much on stopping him.

4. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State. Born in Germany, Werner learned football while at a Connecticut prep school as an exchange student. Played just two prep years before signing with Florida State. Two-year starter at left end in FSU's base and sub packages who shows surprising natural instincts, good hand strength and athletic ability. Pretty impressive to see he had 13 sacks in the ACC in the 2012 season.

5. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State. At 6-3 and 335, he still has the athleticism to line up at multiple positions on the line -- not just at the nose. Active and instinctive, and showed improvement from 2011. Very good player versus the run that needs to continue to improve his every-down consistency.

6. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama. Low-mileage rusher (355 carries in three seasons with the Tide) who played behind two outstanding backs early in his career (Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson). Averaged 6.8 yards per rush in his college career behind an offensive line better than some NFL lines. Good receiving skills, and a willing blocker. He should be an every-down back in the NFL.

7. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia. Began his college career at USC in 2009 and transferred closer to home after suffering a neck injury his true freshman year. Highly instinctive and productive college player, but at 6-3 and 241, could be a tough positional fit. Dominated certain games (Florida), disappeared in others (Alabama).

8. Keenan Allen, WR, Cal. Originally committed to Alabama out of HS, but decided to join his QB brother Zach to play together at Cal. Allen is a big (6-3, 210), savvy and highly competitive WR who has played the slot and outside. Lacks top speed, but is very natural and quick. In a WR class that appears to lack elite players, he may be the best.

9. Alec Ogletree, MLB, Georgia. Tremendously talented athlete at 6-3 and 232, and should be an every-down NFL inside 'backer or middle 'backer. Has the skill and ability to contribute immediately all defenses as well as special teams. Jumps off the tape and could have the most upside of any underclassman in the draft. But some off-the-field issues will need to be studied before giving him a final grade.

10. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State. Three-year starter who was hampered this season by a knee injury that he played through. Good height-weight-speed prospect at 6-6 and 255 who right now is more receiver than blocker. I'm high on his ability to produce as an offensive tight end right now in the more wide-open NFL offenses. He's what we call an "F-type'' tight end, a receiver who can play off the line probably more productively than as a blocker right now.
***** will be doing some work for NBC Sports Network at the Super Bowl.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2KRmlc0Lc

Psyko Tek 02-09-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 9388992)
Leon Sandcastle to the muther****ing house

have they got jerseys available yet?

Pasta Little Brioni 02-09-2013 06:16 PM

Easily the best QB available and a 90 plus grade by most scouting services. Yet people wonder why we try and bitchslap any and all doubters.

Hammock Parties 02-09-2013 06:18 PM

This is me whenever a True Fan shits out his mouth:

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/black3.gif

SAUTO 02-09-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9390126)
What was his draft board? I haven't seen it.

That was actually his list of top underclassmen. Clay is being a little dishonest here.

And a big **** you to clay for making me defend Pioli somewhat
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Pasta Little Brioni 02-09-2013 06:21 PM

Had someone try and tell me the other day that he'd rather ride it out with Cassel than draft Geno. I asked why and he said that he doesn't like scrambling QB's, need a pocket passer and that Geno is very inaccurate.

Felt like doing that above gif IRL

SAUTO 02-09-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9390268)
Had someone try and tell me the other day that he'd rather ride it out with Cassel than draft Geno. I asked why and he said that he doesn't like scrambling QB's, need a pocket passer and that Geno is very inaccurate.

Felt like doing that above gif IRL

well he is right, you know.
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Pasta Little Brioni 02-09-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9390270)
well he is right, you know.
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Fetch a sake :)

SAUTO 02-09-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9390275)
Fetch a sake :)

**** YOU DCS
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AussieChiefsFan 02-09-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9388937)
Cornerbacks

1) Leon Sandcastle - ESPN (100)

:clap:

Pasta Little Brioni 02-09-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9390285)
**** YOU DCS
Posted via Mobile Device

:cuss:

Mr. Laz 02-09-2013 06:35 PM

quite a few WR's worth having this year

Pasta Little Brioni 02-09-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9390304)
quite a few WR's worth having this year

Definately. I think our needs really match up to this draft well. Grab Geno and either a starting WR, corner, or safety in Round 2. Pretty good haul.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-09-2013 07:13 PM

Does anybody name their kids Tom, Dick or Harry anymore?

JohnnyHammersticks 02-09-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 9390429)
Does anybody name their kids Tom, Dick or Harry anymore?

I once had a statistics teacher in college named Harold Dyck (pronounced "dick").

Hairy dick. He must have hated his parents.

SAUTO 02-11-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 9390766)
I once had a statistics teacher in college named Harold Dyck (pronounced "dick").

Hairy dick. He must have hated his parents.

lol i have a customer named harry schaft

Dayze 02-11-2013 08:16 AM

Lacy is hardly a fat RB. JFC

spanky 52 02-11-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 9390766)
I once had a statistics teacher in college named Harold Dyck (pronounced "dick").

Hairy dick. He must have hated his parents.

Wonder if he was any relation to Gladwyn Dyck. Had him for algebra at Lindsborg High School back in the late sixties.

htismaqe 02-11-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 9390766)
I once had a statistics teacher in college named Harold Dyck (pronounced "dick").

Hairy dick. He must have hated his parents.

There was a chick in my high school named Fonda Dix.

There was also a guy named Curtis Curtis.

patteeu 02-11-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9389833)
Their website never seems to give any opinions at all. Just reactions and fluff pieces. No matter what I do or don't agree with here, I do like that they posted an actual opinion. That site is free to speak again for the first time in 4 years, even if it is still in a biased capacity.

It's not their opinion. These ratings come directly from nfl.com's combine participants page. I don't know who came up with the rankings.

MahiMike 02-11-2013 09:28 AM

You watch, Mike Glennon will end up being the 1st QB in this bunch to win a Super Bowl.

Guys with that kinda neck talent only come around once a decade.

/Peyton

boogblaster 02-11-2013 09:47 AM

if we trade for a QB .. I like the ILB ..


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