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duncan_idaho 11-03-2016 09:11 PM

*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***
 
The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

Spoiler!

KCUnited 11-03-2016 09:11 PM

Just want to be first.

SAUTO 11-03-2016 09:12 PM

94 wins

ChiefsCountry 11-03-2016 09:13 PM

Lets win the whole thing again. This October was boring.

cabletech94 11-03-2016 09:14 PM

Here to represent!

come on 2017---back to the promised land!!!!

Canofbier 11-03-2016 09:15 PM

Getting in on page 1! Gonna have to update my avatar one of these days, though. Mondesi, maybe?

New World Order 11-03-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 12527946)
Getting in on page 1! Gonna have to update my avatar one of these days, though. Mondesi, maybe?


Let's go old school.

Ken Harvey

CaliforniaChief 11-03-2016 09:19 PM

Nice work Duncan! I'm in.

In terms of the offseason, I know things have been said about Beltran coming in as DH. I'm not so sure. Maybe I'm jaded by Soria, but a fascination with the past is no way to contend now.

I think we're going all in for 2018, honestly. I suspect that if that wasn't the case, Yost would likely retire and turn it over to a new manager (Ibanez?)

It will be nice to have Hochevar back along with Herrera, and I look forward to seeing who GMDM picks off the trash heap and turns into a bullpen stud.

I'm excited!

Prison Bitch 11-03-2016 09:27 PM

I really hope Dozier isn't our top prospect

Chiefspants 11-03-2016 09:39 PM

After a successful surgery, it's time for the Zimmer era, right?

https://media.giphy.com/media/G0zU8SswFuKDS/giphy.gif

Shogun 11-03-2016 09:40 PM

1st

mr. tegu 11-03-2016 10:01 PM

I really hope we can bring back Morales but it doesn't seem likely.

Pitt Gorilla 11-03-2016 10:07 PM

sexy time.

cosmo20002 11-03-2016 11:50 PM

It is weird living in a world where the Chicago Cubs have won a World Series in my lifetime. Or my dad's. Or anyone that is alive.

duncan_idaho 11-04-2016 06:03 AM

First steps as GM for me this offseason (if I'm calling the shots).

1) approach Hosmer about a long-term deal. Once that doesn't happen, you can move on to guys you actually have a shot with without offending anyone.

2) Get Duffy extended (4 years, 50ish million sounds about right). Backload that sucker and clear up payroll for 2017 (should be able to save 4-5 million off his arbitration figure).

2) Try to extend Moustakas. Something like Chase Headley's deal is what I've seen thrown around by a few others. Seems about right - 4 years, 50ish million. If he continues to perform like 2015, it's actually a good deal for the team and more neutral for him. Adds a layer of security for Moustakas.

I think that ends up being a win, anyway, as I think Moose's skills will age well into his early 30s compared to Cain and Hosmer.
Again, hopefully save around 4 million on 2017 salary.

3) try to extend Herrera. A little trickier and more risky, but still a move that adds long-term stability while hopefully freeing up a few million more in payroll room.

4) work with Greg Holland and Luke Hochevar on incentive-based deals. Don't need both of them, but adding at least one would help the pen a lot. If holland's elbow checks out and his slider is good, I'd lean that way.

5) Explore a Wade Davis trade. I'd need to be blown away, but if a team like the Nationals wants to give up a Reynaldo Lopez for him, I make the deal. Also think the Cubs would be an interesting partner (with Ian Happ as my top target), but they may need those bullets for Chris Archer. If you can't trade to bolster he rotation, I'd look at a guy like Henderson Alvarez in FA.

Based on those 5 things, stick a toe in the DH market. It's pretty flooded, and a SH or RH-hitting option makes a lot of sense for the Royals if you can do it on a one- or two-year deal for $10 million/year or less. Really need that bat hitting 5th behind Hosmer to lengthen the lineup, in my opinion.

This could be Beltran or Morales or Holliday or Steve Pearce. Aaron Hill also intrigues me a bit, could be really cheap and offer a little 3b insurance.


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Prison Bitch 11-04-2016 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12528117)
It is weird living in a world where the Chicago Cubs have won a World Series in my lifetime. Or my dad's. Or anyone that is alive.

I still think it's a lot weirder that we won it.

Prison Bitch 11-04-2016 07:27 AM

MLB.com with the dumbest tweet in Twitter history?


https://mobile.twitter.com/MLB/statu...10683526610944

CaliforniaChief 11-04-2016 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12528236)
MLB.com with the dumbest tweet in Twitter history?


https://mobile.twitter.com/MLB/statu...10683526610944

Ha! The official Royals twitter account left a comment to that one.

Titty Meat 11-04-2016 07:37 AM

That prospect list looks weak

HemiEd 11-04-2016 07:41 AM

Nice read Duncan, thanks.

KChiefs1 11-04-2016 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12527938)
Lets win the whole thing again. This October was boring.



It was ok to have a break from all the tension & stress for one year but I need a few more October's like 2014/2015 before I die.




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Go Royals 11-04-2016 08:14 AM

If Holland is fully healthy, I would love to get back both him and Hochevar.

BlackHelicopters 11-04-2016 08:19 AM

Thank you, Duncan.

ArrowheadMagic 11-04-2016 11:05 AM

Samir Duenez??

Bowser 11-04-2016 11:11 AM

http://i.imgur.com/MmHIi8P.gif

Buehler445 11-04-2016 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12528197)
First steps as GM for me this offseason (if I'm calling the shots).

1) approach Hosmer about a long-term deal. Once that doesn't happen, you can move on to guys you actually have a shot with without offending anyone.

2) Get Duffy extended (4 years, 50ish million sounds about right). Backload that sucker and clear up payroll for 2017 (should be able to save 4-5 million off his arbitration figure).

2) Try to extend Moustakas. Something like Chase Headley's deal is what I've seen thrown around by a few others. Seems about right - 4 years, 50ish million. If he continues to perform like 2015, it's actually a good deal for the team and more neutral for him. Adds a layer of security for Moustakas.

I think that ends up being a win, anyway, as I think Moose's skills will age well into his early 30s compared to Cain and Hosmer.
Again, hopefully save around 4 million on 2017 salary.

3) try to extend Herrera. A little trickier and more risky, but still a move that adds long-term stability while hopefully freeing up a few million more in payroll room.

4) work with Greg Holland and Luke Hochevar on incentive-based deals. Don't need both of them, but adding at least one would help the pen a lot. If holland's elbow checks out and his slider is good, I'd lean that way.

5) Explore a Wade Davis trade. I'd need to be blown away, but if a team like the Nationals wants to give up a Reynaldo Lopez for him, I make the deal. Also think the Cubs would be an interesting partner (with Ian Happ as my top target), but they may need those bullets for Chris Archer. If you can't trade to bolster he rotation, I'd look at a guy like Henderson Alvarez in FA.

Based on those 5 things, stick a toe in the DH market. It's pretty flooded, and a SH or RH-hitting option makes a lot of sense for the Royals if you can do it on a one- or two-year deal for $10 million/year or less. Really need that bat hitting 5th behind Hosmer to lengthen the lineup, in my opinion.

This could be Beltran or Morales or Holliday or Steve Pearce. Aaron Hill also intrigues me a bit, could be really cheap and offer a little 3b insurance.


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So was Kendry's deal 2 years? Is that what I'm remembering?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12528236)
MLB.com with the dumbest tweet in Twitter history?


https://mobile.twitter.com/MLB/statu...10683526610944

LMAO Even the Cleveland dudes are hammering the MLB.

C3HIEF3S 11-04-2016 01:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve been told talks with Duffy are progressing well. Even heard a number thrown out. Five years, $40-$50 million with an option. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/794607882373238786">November 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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SCTrojan 11-04-2016 01:26 PM

Looks like Morales and Volquez turned down mutual options.

Prison Bitch 11-04-2016 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12528775)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve been told talks with Duffy are progressing well. Even heard a number thrown out. Five years, $40-$50 million with an option. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/794607882373238786">November 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Better have a TJ clause in it. Duffy had the surgery in 2012 and the average recurrence happens within 5 years, slating him at having another this next year.

http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/04/21/tom...nn-matt-harvey

Rooster 11-04-2016 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan (Post 12528819)
Looks like Morales and Volquez turned down mutual options.

I just saw this too. I'm kind of torn on how to feel about it actually. I like them both but I think both positions could be improved.

Chiefspants 11-04-2016 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12528775)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve been told talks with Duffy are progressing well. Even heard a number thrown out. Five years, $40-$50 million with an option. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/794607882373238786">November 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/phot...38-500-209.gif

tk13 11-04-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 12528870)
I just saw this too. I'm kind of torn on how to feel about it actually. I like them both but I think both positions could be improved.

I am skeptical we'll be able to replace Morales' power, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

Rooster 11-04-2016 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12528890)
I am skeptical we'll be able to replace Morales' power, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

I know what you mean. Those blasts he had in Minnesota this year were amazing.

Go Royals 11-04-2016 02:06 PM

Is there a site that has all the free agents listed for every team?

Spott 11-04-2016 02:18 PM

Just don't bring Soria back.

CaliforniaChief 11-04-2016 02:21 PM

I'd love Encarnacion. Ok, LOL

duncan_idaho 11-04-2016 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 12528507)
Samir Duenez??


I had comments about him, apparently I failed to copy-paste accurately. I'll add when I'm at a computer I can access the forum on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12528567)
So was Kendry's deal 2 years? Is that what I'm remembering?







LMAO Even the Cleveland dudes are hammering the MLB.


Two years with a mutual option for year 3; he declined his half and is a FA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12528775)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve been told talks with Duffy are progressing well. Even heard a number thrown out. Five years, $40-$50 million with an option. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>— David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/794607882373238786">November 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Yes. This pleases me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12528865)
Better have a TJ clause in it. Duffy had the surgery in 2012 and the average recurrence happens within 5 years, slating him at having another this next year.



http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/04/21/tom...nn-matt-harvey


As of last year, only 18 guys in the past decade and only 39 total had needed a revision, according to SI. Hopefully Duffy avoids those fates.

The guy who did his, Lew Yocun, is dead, but I don't think he's the surgeon who did Brandon Beachy, Medlen, and Corey Luebke's failed first runs at TJ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Royals (Post 12528907)
Is there a site that has all the free agents listed for every team?


MLB trade rumors lists it by position, not sure you can filter by team in one spot.



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Prison Bitch 11-04-2016 03:18 PM

I'm prob more worried about the money than the odds. Example: let's suppose you sign Kris Medlen and there's a 50% chance he doesn't pitch for you. 10M x 50% = $5M expected loss. Or Holland at say 2/14: 50% chance you'll lose $7M.


The same odds for Duffy incur a massive 25M loss. I suppose the counter is you'll get a shitload of value for him the time he DOES play. And if he survives most of that time, you really come out ahead.


Strasburg and Harvey having issues this year really would worry me. They are young guys his age.

Shogun 11-04-2016 04:44 PM

I would take Duffy for 5 years 45m all damn day long to the bank if it is structured right

C3HIEF3S 11-04-2016 09:28 PM

Duncan/PB, are wRC values already presented with the exclusion of pitchers from the calculation? Or do you have to compile that separately?

For example, when calculating batting runs...

Batting Runs = wRAA + (lgR/PA – (PF*lgR/PA))*PA + (lgR/PA – (AL or NL non-pitcher wRC/PA))*PA

....is AL non-pitcher wRC for 2016 just simply 11008/91672 = .12 from this link? (wRC/PA)
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0

lewdog 11-04-2016 09:42 PM

I'm trying to find someone to go with to the Arizona Fall League All-Star game tomorrow.

So far, no takers. :(

Rasputin 11-04-2016 11:36 PM

I hope they ink Eric Hosmer for a long term deal I would love that. Eric Hosmer is a stud.


I think Venura is going start maturing and have more control this year as long as he listens to Perez and pitching coaches. I think he will be our Ace in the pocket.

Anyong Bluth 11-05-2016 01:22 AM

In

C3HIEF3S 11-05-2016 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12529494)
Duncan/PB, are wRC values already presented with the exclusion of pitchers from the calculation? Or do you have to compile that separately?

For example, when calculating batting runs...

Batting Runs = wRAA + (lgR/PA – (PF*lgR/PA))*PA + (lgR/PA – (AL or NL non-pitcher wRC/PA))*PA

....is AL non-pitcher wRC for 2016 just simply 11008/91672 = .12 from this link? (wRC/PA)
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0

Never mind, I figured it out. For shits and gigs, I calculated Eric Hosmer's 2016 fWAR by hand. Fangraphs has him at -.2. My final figure came out to be -.1895 which is most likely just rounding errors if I had to guess. It was a fun way to see the inside of this stat.

As you can see, I took a shortcut when it came to BsR (part b on my sheet). Didn't feel like working the formulas for lgwSB (b2) and runCS (b3) when UBR, wSB, and wGDP were all right in front of me on Fangraphs. But for the most part, here is everything that goes into fWAR (I think):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwe01RXXgAANjPS.jpg


...is it March yet?

teedubya 11-05-2016 02:19 AM

I'm looking forward to the 2017 World Series Royals vs. Cubs

Bowser 11-05-2016 09:34 AM

I feel pretty good when I balance the checkbook and everything comes out even. No way am I going to attempt to calculate WAR, lol.

Infidel Goat 11-05-2016 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12528924)
Just don't bring Soria back.

He's guaranteed $17 million for the next two years. We can buy out the third remaining years for $1 million.

Better hope for a bounce back...

duncan_idaho 11-05-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12529036)
I'm prob more worried about the money than the odds. Example: let's suppose you sign Kris Medlen and there's a 50% chance he doesn't pitch for you. 10M x 50% = $5M expected loss. Or Holland at say 2/14: 50% chance you'll lose $7M.


The same odds for Duffy incur a massive 25M loss. I suppose the counter is you'll get a shitload of value for him the time he DOES play. And if he survives most of that time, you really come out ahead.


Strasburg and Harvey having issues this year really would worry me. They are young guys his age.

Strasburg's may be slightly related to TJ (flexor mass strain), but it isn't directly related. Harvey's is not related (Thoracic outlet).

Strasburg's delivery/motion would leave him more prone to an elbow injury than Duffy's, too. Stras has that dramatic inverted W in his motion. Duffy is more classic/smooth.

re: wRC... and here I thought I was the only person around here who ran statistical calculations long-hand.

Related note: Excel is your friend.

Munson 11-05-2016 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12529683)
Never mind, I figured it out. For shits and gigs, I calculated Eric Hosmer's 2016 fWAR by hand. Fangraphs has him at -.2. My final figure came out to be -.1895 which is most likely just rounding errors if I had to guess. It was a fun way to see the inside of this stat.

As you can see, I took a shortcut when it came to BsR (part b on my sheet). Didn't feel like working the formulas for lgwSB (b2) and runCS (b3) when UBR, wSB, and wGDP were all right in front of me on Fangraphs. But for the most part, here is everything that goes into fWAR (I think):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwe01RXXgAANjPS.jpg


...is it March yet?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...you-wizard.jpg

Kidd Lex 11-05-2016 10:11 AM

Duncan... the real reason we all log onto CP

lewdog 11-05-2016 04:40 PM

Duncan, what happened to Calixte?

Prison Bitch 11-05-2016 07:11 PM

Hoch shown the door

Jerok 11-05-2016 07:19 PM

Anybody watch the tv show "Pitch"? It's on Hulu. It's about this girl who is going to be the first female pitcher in the majors. Anyway, she makes the all-star game (on votes, not merit) and pitches to Perez who homers off of her. Even fake TV show home runs give me the Royals feel.

They showed the actual footage from the all-star game but just superimposed the girl pitcher instead of whoever it was (Cueto?). And now I want to see Perez back in the game!

Sure-Oz 11-07-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 12530235)
Anybody watch the tv show "Pitch"? It's on Hulu. It's about this girl who is going to be the first female pitcher in the majors. Anyway, she makes the all-star game (on votes, not merit) and pitches to Perez who homers off of her. Even fake TV show home runs give me the Royals feel.

They showed the actual footage from the all-star game but just superimposed the girl pitcher instead of whoever it was (Cueto?). And now I want to see Perez back in the game!

I've enjoyed it....but it's cause I'm a fan of Zack Morris. It's not a bad show though.

KChiefs1 11-07-2016 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 12530235)
Anybody watch the tv show "Pitch"? It's on Hulu. It's about this girl who is going to be the first female pitcher in the majors. Anyway, she makes the all-star game (on votes, not merit) and pitches to Perez who homers off of her. Even fake TV show home runs give me the Royals feel.

They showed the actual footage from the all-star game but just superimposed the girl pitcher instead of whoever it was (Cueto?). And now I want to see Perez back in the game!



I haven't wanted to watch it but you just made me want to watch it now.




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Great Expectations 11-07-2016 09:46 AM

I didn't like how they selected an actor who throws like a girl. Why couldn't they get someone who can throw like an athlete? It's already hard enough to believe, that just makes it worse.

C3HIEF3S 11-07-2016 01:11 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Greg Holland 88-91 during his workout.</p>&mdash; Eric Longenhagen (@longenhagen) <a href="https://twitter.com/longenhagen/status/795702395560857600">November 7, 2016</a></blockquote>
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13 months post-TJ, you'd like to see velocity higher than that, correct? Isn't velocity usually quick to come back after rehab?

cabletech94 11-07-2016 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12536590)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Greg Holland 88-91 during his workout.</p>&mdash; Eric Longenhagen (@longenhagen) <a href="https://twitter.com/longenhagen/status/795702395560857600">November 7, 2016</a></blockquote>
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bring him in for a look????

Nightfyre 11-07-2016 01:40 PM

Holland is done if he can't get the velocity up

tk13 11-07-2016 01:44 PM

Yeah that's not encouraging at all. He needs to at least be sitting in the mid 90s to be the guy he was before, even with his devastating slider.

duncan_idaho 11-07-2016 02:05 PM

To be elite again, Holland needs to sit 94-95, like tk13 said.

To be a very good reliever, he probably could work at 92-93 if his slider is still good (depth and bite).

At 88-91, I would worry he is entering the same territory Tim Lincecum did when he hit his late 20s/early 30s... losing velocity as his body ages and is no longer able to squeeze as much out of a max effort delivery.


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CaliforniaChief 11-07-2016 02:07 PM

Tough luck for Holland. Reading Passan's book "The Arm" gave me a new appreciation for what these guys go through post-TJ.

Titty Meat 11-07-2016 02:39 PM

Hey off topic but I can't make threads. Anyone bought baseball tickets off vividseats.com? I'm trying to get my gf cards tickets for a game in St. Louis but see nothing listed on ticketmaster or their website for single game tickets.

C3HIEF3S 11-07-2016 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12536840)
Hey off topic but I can't make threads. Anyone bought baseball tickets off vividseats.com? I'm trying to get my gf cards tickets for a game in St. Louis but see nothing listed on ticketmaster or their website for single game tickets.

Single game tickets don't usually go on sale until February, I believe. I think each team has specific dates, but usually around February, IIRC.

Discuss Thrower 11-07-2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12536840)
Hey off topic but I can't make threads. Anyone bought baseball tickets off vividseats.com? I'm trying to get my gf cards tickets for a game in St. Louis but see nothing listed on ticketmaster or their website for single game tickets.

Or just dump the girlfriend and date a Royals' fan you frickin' Communist.

WhawhaWhat 11-07-2016 03:23 PM

No qualifying offers for Morales or Volquez.

Prison Bitch 11-07-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12536952)
No qualifying offers for Morales or Volquez.

We thank them for their service. Two of the best FA in our history.

duncan_idaho 11-07-2016 04:21 PM

Jason Hammel and Derek Holland both had their options declined. Adds some depth to the SP market.

Holland may be a guy in line for a short/prove it type of deal who could add some rotation depth for KC.

Hammel will likely get 3-4 years at pretty solid money. He's a back-end starter in the AL, but I bet he gets something similar to the Ian Kennedy contract. 4/55-60?


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ChiefsCountry 11-07-2016 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12537081)
Jason Hammel and Derek Holland both had their options declined. Adds some depth to the SP market.

Holland may be a guy in line for a short/prove it type of deal who could add some rotation depth for KC.

Hammel will likely get 3-4 years at pretty solid money. He's a back-end starter in the AL, but I bet he gets something similar to the Ian Kennedy contract. 4/55-60?


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Holland personality would fit well in the clubhouse. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them go after Brett Anderson. Dayton seems to have a hard on for him.

Buehler445 11-07-2016 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12530215)
Hoch shown the door

?

I thought he had a year left.

C3HIEF3S 11-07-2016 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537478)
?

I thought he had a year left.

They had a mutual option with him, of which the Royals declined.

WhawhaWhat 11-07-2016 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537478)
?

I thought he had a year left.

He had a $7 million mutual option that the team declined.

Buehler445 11-07-2016 07:52 PM

Thx. Nevermind. Really liked Hoch. He was definitely a part of the WS run.

Prison Bitch 11-07-2016 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537495)
Thx. Nevermind. Really liked Hoch. He was definitely a part of the WS run.

He was absolute nails last postseason. I'll always love Hoch. Wish him the best but it's time.

Chiefspants 11-07-2016 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537495)
Thx. Nevermind. Really liked Hoch. He was definitely a part of the WS run.

The dude didn't give up a single run in the 2015 postseason.

Showed off why he was selected over Andrew Miller, who only wishes he could have done the same in 2016. ;)

KCCHIEFS27 11-08-2016 07:52 PM

Salvy won another gold glove!

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Munson 11-08-2016 08:40 PM

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Munson 11-10-2016 06:20 PM

Salvy wins his first Silver Slugger award!

http://m.royals.mlb.com/news/article...slugger-award/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats to <a href="https://twitter.com/SalvadorPerez15">@SalvadorPerez15</a> on winning an American League <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SilverSlugger?src=hash">#SilverSlugger</a> Award! 💪 <a href="https://t.co/t5ccJyvbl0">pic.twitter.com/t5ccJyvbl0</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/796861355106201600">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Chiefspants 11-10-2016 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 12545924)
Salvy wins his first Silver Slugger award!

http://m.royals.mlb.com/news/article...slugger-award/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats to <a href="https://twitter.com/SalvadorPerez15">@SalvadorPerez15</a> on winning an American League <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SilverSlugger?src=hash">#SilverSlugger</a> Award! 💪 <a href="https://t.co/t5ccJyvbl0">pic.twitter.com/t5ccJyvbl0</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/796861355106201600">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Bad. Ass. I was hopeful he could win it coming into the year but started losing faith when he entered his patented Yost overuse Slump. Out of everyone on the roster, I think he has the best very outside shot to make it to the Hall. He's already sporting an incredible resume.

4x Gold Glove Winner
4x All Star
1x Silver Slugger
2x AL Pennants
1x World Series Championship
1x World Series MVP

Love you, Sal.

BigCatDaddy 11-10-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 12545924)
Salvy wins his first Silver Slugger award!

http://m.royals.mlb.com/news/article...slugger-award/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats to <a href="https://twitter.com/SalvadorPerez15">@SalvadorPerez15</a> on winning an American League <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SilverSlugger?src=hash">#SilverSlugger</a> Award! 💪 <a href="https://t.co/t5ccJyvbl0">pic.twitter.com/t5ccJyvbl0</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/796861355106201600">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Nice!


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