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duncan_idaho 11-07-2016 02:05 PM

To be elite again, Holland needs to sit 94-95, like tk13 said.

To be a very good reliever, he probably could work at 92-93 if his slider is still good (depth and bite).

At 88-91, I would worry he is entering the same territory Tim Lincecum did when he hit his late 20s/early 30s... losing velocity as his body ages and is no longer able to squeeze as much out of a max effort delivery.


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CaliforniaChief 11-07-2016 02:07 PM

Tough luck for Holland. Reading Passan's book "The Arm" gave me a new appreciation for what these guys go through post-TJ.

Titty Meat 11-07-2016 02:39 PM

Hey off topic but I can't make threads. Anyone bought baseball tickets off vividseats.com? I'm trying to get my gf cards tickets for a game in St. Louis but see nothing listed on ticketmaster or their website for single game tickets.

C3HIEF3S 11-07-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12536840)
Hey off topic but I can't make threads. Anyone bought baseball tickets off vividseats.com? I'm trying to get my gf cards tickets for a game in St. Louis but see nothing listed on ticketmaster or their website for single game tickets.

Single game tickets don't usually go on sale until February, I believe. I think each team has specific dates, but usually around February, IIRC.

Discuss Thrower 11-07-2016 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12536840)
Hey off topic but I can't make threads. Anyone bought baseball tickets off vividseats.com? I'm trying to get my gf cards tickets for a game in St. Louis but see nothing listed on ticketmaster or their website for single game tickets.

Or just dump the girlfriend and date a Royals' fan you frickin' Communist.

WhawhaWhat 11-07-2016 03:23 PM

No qualifying offers for Morales or Volquez.

Prison Bitch 11-07-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12536952)
No qualifying offers for Morales or Volquez.

We thank them for their service. Two of the best FA in our history.

duncan_idaho 11-07-2016 04:21 PM

Jason Hammel and Derek Holland both had their options declined. Adds some depth to the SP market.

Holland may be a guy in line for a short/prove it type of deal who could add some rotation depth for KC.

Hammel will likely get 3-4 years at pretty solid money. He's a back-end starter in the AL, but I bet he gets something similar to the Ian Kennedy contract. 4/55-60?


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ChiefsCountry 11-07-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12537081)
Jason Hammel and Derek Holland both had their options declined. Adds some depth to the SP market.

Holland may be a guy in line for a short/prove it type of deal who could add some rotation depth for KC.

Hammel will likely get 3-4 years at pretty solid money. He's a back-end starter in the AL, but I bet he gets something similar to the Ian Kennedy contract. 4/55-60?


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Holland personality would fit well in the clubhouse. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them go after Brett Anderson. Dayton seems to have a hard on for him.

Buehler445 11-07-2016 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12530215)
Hoch shown the door

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I thought he had a year left.

C3HIEF3S 11-07-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537478)
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I thought he had a year left.

They had a mutual option with him, of which the Royals declined.

WhawhaWhat 11-07-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537478)
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I thought he had a year left.

He had a $7 million mutual option that the team declined.

Buehler445 11-07-2016 07:52 PM

Thx. Nevermind. Really liked Hoch. He was definitely a part of the WS run.

Prison Bitch 11-07-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537495)
Thx. Nevermind. Really liked Hoch. He was definitely a part of the WS run.

He was absolute nails last postseason. I'll always love Hoch. Wish him the best but it's time.

Chiefspants 11-07-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12537495)
Thx. Nevermind. Really liked Hoch. He was definitely a part of the WS run.

The dude didn't give up a single run in the 2015 postseason.

Showed off why he was selected over Andrew Miller, who only wishes he could have done the same in 2016. ;)


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