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pugsnotdrugs19 01-01-2019 12:09 AM

I can definitely see KC bringing Jeff Allen back for the vet minimum as a guy they like who knows the offense. Which would alleviate some potential depth issues with a cheap option.

philfree 01-01-2019 12:30 AM

They're going to need a new trophy case.

OKchiefs 01-01-2019 12:48 AM

Their biggest need is to absolutely nail the draft. No more damn projects in the 2nd like Kpass and Speaks. There are plenty of starting jobs and playing time available, so there's no excuse to take any players who are projects and can't get on the field right away.

EMAW24 01-03-2019 10:38 AM

I hate the defense as much as anyone, but I would be all for using our first round pick on the OL if there is one they like available. I'm a K-State guy so maybe a little biased, but if Dalton Risner is available, hopefully at 32 :), i'd think about it. Could play anywhere on the line and would be able to replace Morse if you're gonna let him walk. The defense needs fixed, but making sure the OL is the best it can be should be a top priority.

Otter 01-03-2019 12:51 PM

Why is Sherman a question mark? What more could you want out the fullback position?

CoMoChief 01-03-2019 02:00 PM

BDPA on every pick.

But CB is a very thin position, especially if they let Nelson walk in FA. I also doubt Scandrick is a Chief next yr.

Seriously though...Chiefs need help everywhere on defense, and the last draft was a giant dumpster fire.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14004646)
BDPA on every pick.

But CB is a very thin position, especially if they let Nelson walk in FA. I also doubt Scandrick is a Chief next yr.

Seriously though...Chiefs need help everywhere on defense, and the last draft was a giant dumpster fire.

Was it though?

Let’s be fair—KC didn’t exactly have the greatest litter of picks to choose with. And that’s fine, because Mahomes. But it’s been not even one full season, no draft class should be judged one way or the other based on that.

- Speaks: switched positions, was never gonna be a finished product this year but HAS gotten better
- Nnadi: looks like a solid NT for years to come at this juncture
- DOD: an upgrade at the moneybacker position over Sorensen, and has starter potential in the long term
- Watts: his biggest issue seems to be durability, but I’m pretty sure he’d be starting right now if he hadn’t gotten hurt
- Tremon: at worst he’s a really good kick returner, and he can’t be written off as a corner just yet
- McKenzie: redshirt year, playing on offense for the first time since probably high school. Has the physical ability to develop into a really good guard if he can master techniques.

Not having a pick until selection 49, that’s not that bad. There’s high upside in that class. It might take another year or two to see it, but they’re all guys who I can see sticking on the roster for the duration of their rookie contract and that is a rarity.

All I’m saying is let’s wait and see.

Chris Meck 01-03-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005009)
Was it though?

Let’s be fair—KC didn’t exactly have the greatest litter of picks to choose with. And that’s fine, because Mahomes. But it’s been not even one full season, no draft class should be judged one way or the other based on that.

- Speaks: switched positions, was never gonna be a finished product this year but HAS gotten better
- Nnadi: looks like a solid NT for years to come at this juncture
- DOD: an upgrade at the moneybacker position over Sorensen, and has starter potential in the long term
- Watts: his biggest issue seems to be durability, but I’m pretty sure he’d be starting right now if he hadn’t gotten hurt
- Tremon: at worst he’s a really good kick returner, and he can’t be written off as a corner just yet
- McKenzie: redshirt year, playing on offense for the first time since probably high school. Has the physical ability to develop into a really good guard if he can master techniques.

Not having a pick until selection 49, that’s not that bad. There’s high upside in that class. It might take another year or two to see it, but they’re all guys who I can see sticking on the roster for the duration of their rookie contract and that is a rarity.

All I’m saying is let’s wait and see.

agreed.

kccrow 01-05-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 14004519)
Why is Sherman a question mark? What more could you want out the fullback position?

What are you talking about?

He's a free agent. The only question is whether or not KC re-signs him.

O.city 01-05-2019 12:22 PM

I think Sherman is one of those guys you never really know how valuable he is til he’s gone.

He’s good on special teams, good when he gets chances on offense and is a leader. You’ve gotta keep him

pugsnotdrugs19 01-05-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14007798)
I think Sherman is one of those guys you never really know how valuable he is til he’s gone.

He’s good on special teams, good when he gets chances on offense and is a leader. You’ve gotta keep him

Yip. He’s a badass. Need those guys.

Chris Meck 01-05-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14007880)
Yip. He’s a badass. Need those guys.

the ultimate lunch pail guy. guys like that are the heart and soul of a football team.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-05-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14007937)
the ultimate lunch pail guy. guys like that are the heart and soul of a football team.

If there’s an opposite to a locker room cancer, Sherman is it. And culture is a huge deal in the NFL as we see with Pittsburgh and other teams.

kccrow 01-05-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14007957)
If there’s an opposite to a locker room cancer, Sherman is it. And culture is a huge deal in the NFL as we see with Pittsburgh and other teams.

Unfortunately, he plays a position in today's NFL that you should probably just rotate out every 4 years with a low-salary, rookie. Given the salary cap going forward $2-2.5 m per for a fullback is hardly a wise use of cap when you can have one between 500 and 600k.

RealSNR 01-05-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14008018)
Unfortunately, he plays a position in today's NFL that you should probably just rotate out every 4 years with a low-salary, rookie. Given the salary cap going forward $2-2.5 m per for a fullback is hardly a wise use of cap when you can have one between 500 and 600k.

The Chiefs do worse stupid ****ing shit all the time with the cap and make it work. We pay our punter a gajillion dollars. We give Daniel ****ing Sorensen $4 mill/year.

On the list of salary cap "wrongs", this one is pretty damn low. I'd still keep him.


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