Albert Wilson
 

Sounds like he’s going to be cut if he doesn’t restructure.

Robinson is probably gone, and there’s a good chance Watkins is too. This is the kind of move that would help soften the blow of losing two guys with experience in this offense.

He was great that week 17 in 2017 with Pat at QB. I’d love to bring him back at a reasonable price.

Who out there is paying Robinson?

If we lose Robinson and Watkins this might make sense. Can't go into the season with Hill/Hardman/Pringle.

People said the same thing about Wilson and Conley.

Yip. Come back on a deal homie. You got your payday now get a ring with us

I figured Conley would get paid. Of course, I’m not sure the Chiefs really wanted either back, as they looked to upgrade.

Wilson and Conley got paid. Robinson is better than them.

The argument is that he's just not showcased because he's behind Hill, Watkins and Kelce and even Hardman. Which may be true.

Someone will probably pay him $8-9M/year over 3 seasons and we can't match that.

Or, pick up someone in the draft

Wonder what Bowe is up to?

Alligator arms bitch.

Absolutely not.

You realize we need to do both, right? This offense is very difficult to learn and to expect us to go into the season with just Tyreek, Hardman, and a rookie is very naive.

We will sign a vet and draft a guy.

Wilson isn't a fit in this offense any more. He was better in a dink-dunk Alex Smith offense. He was never a great deep ball guy and often gator arm'd passes that were slightly outside his frame.

I don't think he's a match here anymore based on what we do, what Veach says he looks for, and what Wilson has done historically.

Everyone says it takes 3 years for WRs to learn Reid's system. Which I guess makes Wilson very appealing.

This team won because they all had one goal. There were no non-football distractions. Albert Wilson continued to kneel during the national anthem in 2019. Let him stay in Miami.

Hmmm - wonder if Philly plans to hold on to DeSean Jackson.

If we lose Watkins, I’d much rather get a good sized youngish vet familiar with the WCO... we’ll need to replace Sammys athleticism and RAC ability, not go get another gadget midget IMO

I disagree. Just look at the one game he had with Pat if you believe this. He’s a better fit than Conley and Robinson, and he’s more explosive than those guys as well.

Conley got a 2 year 4 mil deal. Why are we acting like he made bank on the open market? Wilson definitely got overpaid. But I would like to keep Robinson at a reasonable price if we are to lose Watkins

They can save 9.5 M by dropping him, so he's gone.

I would think we could sign him for Pennies on the dollar. For a couple million, sure, why not.

Should we give him a super bowl ring also?

It was a three year 24M deal.

If you think Watkins was a brokedick, I have some news for you regarding Bert.....

He was dealing with shoulder injuries.

I’d take him back on a 2/5

In fairness, we have Patrick Mahomes II. There won't be passes slightly outside his frame with Patrick Mahomes II.

But yeah, I think we've moved beyond Albert Wilson. No need to bring in a veteran at that position when you can find young, fast guys in the draft.

If they look to free agency we'll be able to find someone who wants to come in and win a ring, and they'll be a lot better than Albert Wilson.

"Hey, Suggs. Give Fitzgerald a call, okay?"

I wanna keep Robinson if Watkins asks crazy money

But you can’t just have Tyreek, Hardman, and a bunch of rookies and former UDFA’s (which is what we have outside of those guys). What happens if Tyreek goes down?

You need a proven vet as well. This isn’t an either/or thing.

Ok who? Let’s see some examples.

Hint:

There aren’t exactly a ton of options there.

Don't we also have Kemp under contract or at least a ERFA? He was coming on from what I hear until he blew his ACL in the preseason.

I'd probably just extend Watkins if that's possible. If not, you're gonna have to draft someone for sure.

Wouldn't mind Wilson. He was always a nice solid WR.

This upcoming draft is STACKED with WR talent.

Yes, it is. And we will draft one.

That still doesn’t mean we don’t need to sign a vet as well.

Mentioned it before, but I’d love to have Randall Cobb. He was excellent as a 3rd option in Dallas with a lesser QB.

Was about $5 million last year.

I mentioned Wilson a month or so ago as a guy I’d like to bring back for a cheap deal and I’m sure he’d love to come back on a 1-2 year deal to build his value back up. A 1 year deal would be smart.

1) if cut he wouldn’t count in the comp pick formula
2) he can flat out fly
3) he already knows the offense so he could play right away.

The other guy I wouldn’t mi d bringing back would be Deanthony Thomas. He’d be cheap speed, too that already knows the system.

Just keep him away from punt returns.

Wilson sucked outside of one game, they ain’t bringing him back lol

Yeah, I think this is the move. Watkins can be utterly fantastic at times. But he is also inconsistent, injury prone, and seems somewhat emotionally fragile.

Keep ****ing doubting Gehrig Dieter

I actually quite linked Pringle this year, I wouldn't mind him taking Robinsons snaps.

LMAO

Albert Wilson gets a hell yes from me.

He clearly demonstrated he can develop a chemistry with Pat, and is really quick in short spaces, which is the role he'd get to play.

Dude is a brokedick

Schefter said this Is the deepest WR drafts in the past 20 years

Wilson needs to stay gone

For real!!

Dude is gonna break out this upcoming year. There is a reason why he isn’t on another roster

ROFL
LMAO

Or Landlord can give him a call/

Count me in on Albert Wilson. He was very productive when he was here, and he's shown he's a legit player in Miami.

Might be fun to go get Dorsett to show how bad Tom Brady actually is now. He'd go for 800 yds in our offense.

Just say no to retread WRs. Kinda like retread QBs.

Dorsett is also a guy I would have interest in.

He’s the type of average talent that Patrick could make better than he truly is. Like Manning used to do.

So yes

Would rather sign greg Olsen

Watkins is still under contract. He needs to get an extension that drops his AAV if Watkins doesn't set out for the year as he has said he is contemplating.

i feel like we need to get a bigger receiver, we have enough of the small fast ones

God I love to draft any one of the 3 Alabama receivers. The Raiders are going to take a great one at #12 Then they're going to move up and get that #1 LB.

Naaaah.

I'm not a believer in the "thunder & lightning" strategy.

If we have a system built around quickness then we should stock up on speedy receivers so they're more plug-n-play in the event of an injury. Rather than having to adjust timing/strategy because we threw some plodder out there.

Reminds me of teams like the Chargers who draft big body, slow WR's and then sign some small, quick gadget guy in Travis Benjamin. That shit is dumb. He ends up just looking miscast.

It's a philosophy. You either believe in WR's who separate quickly, or you believe in big guys who win on contested catches. I dont like that mix and match shit. You lose your identity.

I think DATs speed is gone.
Is it because he’s not good?

Beat me to it. Forget this dude.

Mecole Hardman has the OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME. This offense...Patrick...Reid...

Hope he takes advantage of it. No reason to think he won't. Did a good job as a rookie at a notoriously hard position for rookies to play. He needs to be Mahomes's shadow this entire offseason.

This is the deepest class of WR in 20 years and people want to sign some retread wtf

Wilson had his biggest stats day during the week 17 game against the Broncos in the first start of Mahomes' career. He had 10 catches for 147 yards in that game, so I think he would be just fine with Mahomes at QB.

But I don't think Robinson leaves. He is capable of playing very well in this offense, already knows this offense, and I doubt there is any team in the league that views him as anything other than a 4th receiver on offense. Maybe a 3rd receiver, but that's a stretch. But he does make an impact on special teams.

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I think every draft from now on, somewhere between rounds 4-7, we should draft the fastest WR possible, even if they didn't have a standout career in college. Any receiver available in the late rounds that runs a 4.29 or better should be considered.

Route running can be taught (see Tyreek Hill) and hands can be improved (see TG early in his career) but speed is something you can't teach. With the arm cannon Mahomes lugs around, speed receivers become very dangerous offensive weapons, even when they aren't getting the ball.

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We do NOT need to go backwards and sign Wilson-keep moving forward!

Doesn't even need to be that fast. Hardman is a 4.33, but I would say anything below 4.4 is excellent as long as the guy has really good quickness/change of direction to go with it. That's what is so amazing about Tyreek and Mecole. Those guys can change direction really quick. They aren't just super fast in a straight line.

Seems like we need more of a sizable possession guy vs a small slot type. I'd keep an eye one what philly is shaking loose or maybe Chicago, other Reid tree teams.

Looking at the 2020 free agent class, theres nothing flashy at WR, id say take this opportunity to draft a guy in a deep class and improve the line. Mahomes with time can make, Drob look like a starter. (see weeks 2 and 3)

I can't get over visions of DRob dropping passes against Houston. Was he targeted again the rest of the way?

We need fatties. And Lb'ers. And CB's.

Anything else is a luxury we probably can't fit under the cap.

Keeping D-line depth should be a priority.

re-stocking the offensive line as well.

That’s where I’m at, we DO need a veteran to go along with any drafted receiver... but not some diminutive gadget type, particularly if we lose Watkins

Reek and Hardman are already vertically challenged

You can point to guys like Kemp and Pringle for bigger bodies, but who really knows what their future holds

Not trying to shit on those who think Wilson is a good idea, I get that he could slide right back in much like Ware thanks to familiarity with the system... just saying we don’t need another smallish guy IMO

I'm not saying hes perfect, and the houston game was a perfect storm of plenty of problems, line included. But we dont have money to spend, thats why i suggest take a flyer on a widout in the draft and grab a vet somewhere, while using resources to upgrade the IOL. With time to sit in the pocket Mahomes can pick apart any defense. Even with time out of the pocket he makes miracle plays like the Pringle play in indy. We just cant have what we had for three quarters of the SB, wich i know is an elite line, but those are out there and teams will want to go that way to stop us now.

This is what are draft should look like

Agreed. And if you want, you can use Kelce at goal line some as a WR you could. We are missing that tall receiver who can catch a fade in the end zone ut it isn't like we have trouble punching it in even though we don't have a bruising running game. I've seen D Rob play that role of goal line WR. Kelce seems to be the guy who just sits down in space compared to getting tons jump balls. Perhaps we could get a nice TE2 that can also do that by committee.

But quick gadgety guys....that is what Andy Reid's offense covets. Kelvin Benjamin did nothing when he was here. I get he was washed up, but it wasn't a great system for him to have success here either.

Maybe. Depends on your agility & 3-cone times. Some fast guys aren't agile at all. Tyreek is so good because he's both super agile and fast. He doesn't get enough credit for how he can just change direction on a dime.

So often we just look at 40 times. I'm more worried about agility combine drills TBH.

Yeah, he had at least one catch and at least one more (albeit tough) drop after we un****ed ourselves.

This is going to be a tricky off season the more i dive into it. I think i would bring back wisnewski on a reasonable deal, let he rankins, and wylie fight out the IOL spots along with alegretti/ reiter at center. Let the underwhelming willias go, bring back Pennel reasonably. Talk to Ogbah see if we could keep him in rotation. And probably have to draft/ find two corners, more DL depth, and pray for a miracle at LB. Really Veach is gonna have to find some JAG diamonds in the rough again to reload this team. We have a core, but a ton of JAG moving pieces this offseason.

Watkins had 3 TDs on opening day and NEVER scored another during the season until the playoffs. I was stunned by that stat

Someone remind me of Watkins contract. It looks like we have to pay him 7 million ANYWAY if we cut him or if he stays on the roster. So basically his cost is actually only 13 million.

Not great at interpreting NFL contracts, but can someone that knows chime in?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...watkins-14413/

We save 14M if we let him walk.

If we keep him without restructuring his contract he costs 21M

We need a bigger, physical, "possession" receiver that can catch jump balls even when he's covered. Jamal Custis is 6' 5" 215, and I think the scouting staff clearly coveted his size as an UDFA. It didn't work out with him, but that type of player is a natural compliment to all of the speed we have on offense. I think we'll see some moves to bring in that type of player at WR this off season.

Pass. Old wideouts are old.

Some team signed him, quite some time after we dropped him, but cant remember who it was, or if hes even still on their roster?