I'll never know why some see it as an either or. :doh!:

Why can't the Big Bang be Gods plan? Why can't evolution be Gods plan?

Science is based on fact. Religion is based on faith. They are not competing on the same turf.

do you realize how stupid you sound?

wow, you have officially solidified your idiocy. We know the universe is expanding right? We have a theory that it started by the big bang, right? So, what caused the Big Bang? The Big Bang theory is basically saying that everything was created out of one explosion and that explosion created all matter and energy and time and space. So, what caused the Big Bang? If that is "the beginning" then what was happening or not happening before this "beginning." If there was nothing happening, if there was no matter, no energy, no time, no space, how did this explosion start?

If you saying everything came out of nothing, how exactly does that work? The Big Bang theory is the biggest magic trick in all of creation if that is what you are saying. But I'm sure you don't believe in "magic" or the supernatural, right? So how did the big bang start?

Let me answer this for you--you don't have a friggen clue.

Here's another question........what is the universe expanding in to? What was here before?

It's really hard to fathom something that has no end. That's why I think the universe is inside something else. Which is inside something else , which is inside something else.

I guess reading is not your thing. It's been explained 3-4 times in this very thread. So I'll assume you don't want to discuss it.

Why? Its a flaw of the human mind that makes us think there has to be patterns and beginnings and ends. This is the way things work on earth. It doesn't mean its that way everywhere.

Because if this is true, its the worst plan in all the universes.

Actually I would argue that's not entirely the case, as I believe both the establishment of science and the establishment of religion are highly dogmatic and conservative institutions that have a great deal of difficulty dealing with ideas that are either outside of or in opposition to their accepted norms. Human nature, after all.

The difference of course being that, over time, science can actually change. Slowly, kicking and screaming the whole time, but it can change. Because as you mention at its core it's based on observation.

But, in any case, I would say that they do in many ways compete for the same turf, as you put it. At the end of the day it's all about trying to quantify the universe and our place (if any) in it.

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Because it's self-evolving, right? God's plan CAN'T be true because he screwed up by not making everything "perfect" instantly, despite God himself being "perfect", right?

Think about this for a second. What would be the point of making everything perfect the first time? Don't you think it would be too easy?

- Define "perfect"

- Define "God"