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Hog's Gone Fishin 10-15-2018 07:31 PM

If we can get Houston and Berry back at the end of the year that's really all we need .I know it sucks now but our O can carry us till then. Just be patient.

MahiMike 10-15-2018 07:37 PM

Not a goddamn one of them.

ThaVirus 10-15-2018 08:19 PM

I think you have to retain Houston for one more year and tag Ford. With this offense we're going to need pass rushers.

Plug in new guy's at other spots, particularly a spot or two on the DL, ILB2, S and CB2/3.

Too much to fix in one offseason, honestly.

Mecca 10-15-2018 08:22 PM

Dee Ford is performing in his contract year, if you pay him you will regret it.

Molitoth 10-15-2018 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13821314)
Dee Ford is performing in his contract year, if you pay him you will regret it.

LIKE EVERY SINGLE ROYALS AND CHIEFS PLAYER EVER.

Right? I'm still waiting for someone to tell me a big contract player that has worked for a KC team.


....and I know we shouldn't judge the future on the past... but my goodness the KC teams have sucked ass at big contracts. Lets actually take a page from the Patriots book on this and only extend Mahomes. (and Hill)

Mecca 10-15-2018 09:05 PM

Even in his good year he's still a one trick pony.

threebag 10-15-2018 09:29 PM

Kpass is a keeper

htismaqe 10-15-2018 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13821513)
Kpass is a keeper

Speaks looked better last night than KPass ever has. That's saying something.

htismaqe 10-15-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13821305)
I think you have to retain Houston for one more year and tag Ford. With this offense we're going to need pass rushers.

Plug in new guy's at other spots, particularly a spot or two on the DL, ILB2, S and CB2/3.

Too much to fix in one offseason, honestly.

If they keep drafting like they have on defense, they'll waste Mahomes' entire career looking for fixes.

Molitoth 10-15-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13821530)
Speaks looked better last night than KPass ever has. That's saying something.

He thinks Alex Smith is an elite QB, you're evaluation of Bob Sutton puts any of his evaluations to shame. :D

smithandrew051 10-15-2018 09:46 PM

I would give Ford a contract that’s heavy on incentives with a super low base pay. I would mostly have it based on games he appears in. If he’s hurt, he makes less. If he won’t accept that deal, let his ass walk.

I don’t get why some people like Bailey. He looks the part and makes the occasional impressive play, but he sure disappears frequently. It’s not like he’s just occupying doubles either, because our run D sucks.

Jones is another enigma. A ton of talent and fire, but also disappears. I wouldn’t pay him big money either when he’s due.

Fuller needs to be a slot corner only. Scandrick and Nelson can go.

Jordan Lucas looks like decent depth. I liked Watts flashes until he got hurt.

Cut Berry and Houston whenever it makes the most financial sense. I’d rather have that money split up into 4-5 good players than tied up in 2 great players who can’t stay healthy. I appreciate what they’ve done, but this is a business.

I’m not ready to give up on Hitchens and Ragland quite yet. Something doesn’t seem right with how bad they’ve looked. I’d try them under another DC first.

Not enough info yet to make a good call on Kpassagnon, Speaks, Xavier Williams, O’Daniel, and Nieman.

htismaqe 10-15-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 13821558)
I would give Ford a contract that’s heavy on incentives with a super low base pay. I would mostly have it based on games he appears in. If he’s hurt, he makes less. If he won’t accept that deal, let his ass walk.

I don’t get why some people like Bailey. He looks the part and makes the occasional impressive play, but he sure disappears frequently. It’s not like he’s just occupying doubles either, because our run D sucks.

Jones is another enigma. A ton of talent and fire, but also disappears. I wouldn’t pay him big money either when he’s due.

Fuller needs to be a slot corner only. Scandrick and Nelson can go.

Jordan Lucas looks like decent depth. I liked Watts flashes until he got hurt.

Cut Berry and Houston whenever it makes the most financial sense. I’d rather have that money split up into 4-5 good players than tied up in 2 great players who can’t stay healthy. I appreciate what they’ve done, but this is a business.

I’m not ready to give up on Hitchens and Ragland quite yet. Something doesn’t seem right with how bad they’ve looked. I’d try them under another DC first.

Not enough info yet to make a good call on Kpassagnon, Speaks, Xavier Williams, O’Daniel, and Nieman.

The only play I really disagree on is Ragland. He can leave tonight for all I care.

Flying High D 10-15-2018 09:49 PM

Bye Ragland.

ThaVirus 10-15-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13821536)
If they keep drafting like they have on defense, they'll waste Mahomes' entire career looking for fixes.

Let's hope we don't turn into the new age Saints and Packers.

Well.. I'll take a Super Bowl at least, but I think we could win multiple with Pat.

htismaqe 10-15-2018 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13821578)
Let's hope we don't turn into the new age Saints and Packers.

Well.. I'll take a Super Bowl at least, but I think we could win multiple with Pat.

I question whether or not they can even win one at this point, let alone multiple.

I love Patrick Mahomes but he's not Jesus and this defense needs more than healing, it needs to be raised from the dead.


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