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Pasta Little Brioni 04-26-2018 12:06 PM

Throwing 40 times a game would be a disaster

MIAdragon 04-26-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13532112)
Throwing 40 times a game would be a disaster

We average 34 pg now why would 6 more be a disaster?

Chris Meck 04-26-2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 13532130)
We average 34 pg now why would 6 more be a disaster?

because you have one of the best young RB's in football?

Halfcan 04-26-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 13532148)
because you have one of the best young RB's in football?

Exactly, and he is explosive when given a little space. Hunt has said he expects to catch more passes this year.

Hunt would still be getting lots of touches.

Ming the Merciless 04-26-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13532099)
Really?

yes really

youre an idiot....last year was far and away alex's best season stats wise..it was a crazy season...even by the standards of someone better than smith. If you dont think last season was his best, post the stats from a better one

and

both of these thigns cannot be true:

"these are my EXPECTATIONS"

"these are JUST what i think he COULD do"

Literally you have zero point other than showing the thread what a ****ing imbecile you are

Halfcan 04-26-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13532306)
yes really

youre an idiot....last year was far and away alex's best season stats wise..it was a crazy season...even by the standards of someone better than smith. If you dont think last season was his best, post the stats from a better one

and

both of these thigns cannot be true:

"these are my EXPECTATIONS"

"these are JUST what i think he COULD do"

Literally you have zero point other than showing the thread what a ****ing imbecile you are

Well I am glad you were THRILLED with Alex last year- because nobody else was-including the Chiefs. Were you THRILLED with his great stats in the home playoff loss to the Steelers too? How about those Great stats the second half of the Titans loss?

Most of Alex stats were from the first of the season when Andy added a lot of new plays. But maybe you missed the long mid-season slump Alex went in causing us to almost miss the playoffs.

I guess you LOVE QB's that can't even manage to throw for 200 yards a game / no TD's a game and many with 1 measely TD. And then routinely choke in the playoffs when it really matters. But yeah- how about that QB rating- wow!!

Obviously posting that I think Mahomes will have better stats than Alex has triggered you into a juvenile name calling rant. :shake:

Naptown Chief 04-26-2018 02:25 PM

I like turtles.

Ming the Merciless 04-26-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13532346)
Well I am glad you were THRILLED with Alex last year- because nobody else was-including the Chiefs. Were you THRILLED with his great stats in the home playoff loss to the Steelers too? How about those Great stats the second half of the Titans loss?

Most of Alex stats were from the first of the season when Andy added a lot of new plays. But maybe you missed the long mid-season slump Alex went in causing us to almost miss the playoffs.

I guess you LOVE QB's that can't even manage to throw for 200 yards a game / no TD's a game and many with 1 measely TD. And then routinely choke in the playoffs when it really matters. But yeah- how about that QB rating- wow!!

Obviously posting that I think Mahomes will have better stats than Alex has triggered you into a juvenile name calling rant. :shake:


youre changing my argument

youre a buffoon

YOURE the one who claimed last year wasnt his best season.....youre a total idiot...I am about as anti-alex as they come and have been since the day our trade for him was announced. I have years and hundreds of posts well documenting this.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that last season was ALex smith's best ever...which you claimed incorrectly that it wasnt.

ALso, I said I would be thrilled if Mahomes had 4000 yards and 2x the INTS that smith had last season...I never said any of the other things you falsely claimed.

youre being a total ****ign spazz

Ming the Merciless 04-26-2018 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13532346)
I guess you LOVE QB's that can't even manage to throw for 200 yards a game


thats funny you god damn reerun...I looked back at the 2013 threads and guess who was one of alex smith's dick suckers???

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9470629)
:clap: yep me too.

I think I was the only one happy about the Alex Smith trade. Our QB's totally suck. I really wanted us to draft a QB but if we have to wait til next year so be it. I am tired of watching this team lose.

why dont you take 5 minutes and look at some of my posts from 2013...

you stupid imbecile

I hate alex smith...Im so happy he is gone...I have a 5 year record of fighting alex sexuals here. BUT you cant look at alex smith's career and then come to any other conclusion than last season , overall, was his best season...thats just a fact. Saying that doesnt mean i love the guy....

Halfcan 04-26-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13532719)
thats funny you god damn reerun...I looked back at the threads and guess who was one of alex smith's dick suckers???



why dont you take 5 minutes and look at some of my posts from 2013...

you stupid imbecile

ROFL

Wow someone is triggered. I did not realize guessing stats was such serious business. You have anger issues. Get a grip on reality. :rolleyes:

Ming the Merciless 04-26-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13532757)
ROFL

Wow someone is triggered. I did not realize guessing stats

you are a dishonest moron

first you claimed you expect 4600 yards

then you claim its just what he 'could' do

then you claim you _expect_ it again

now you claim its just a guess

****ing flip flopping harder than rosie odonnels blown out pussy lips

then

you claimed last season wasn't alex's best....then refuse to say what other season was better

you claim im some kind of smith lover, which is a lie

and then i find out you ****ing licked his balls in 2013 and were happy we traded for him...LOL
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Originally Posted by Halfcan 2013(pre flip flop) (Post 9470629)
:clap: yep me too.

I think I was the only one happy about the Alex Smith trade.



how much more do you need to be proven wrong in this thread? How much more of your ass will you show? this isnt about 'guessing' or what he 'could' do...read the ****ing thread title.

Its REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS

how many times does that fact need pointed out to you?

Honestly I dont think I have ever seen one person be more wrong in a single thread....which is saying something.....and you dont even understand the title of thread that youre posting in..its ridiculous

BlackHelicopters 04-26-2018 05:57 PM

HST: The cop did me on all fronts.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2018 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13532757)
ROFL

Wow someone is triggered. I did not realize guessing stats was such serious business. You have anger issues. Get a grip on reality. :rolleyes:

It was a pitiful and sad post.

Own it.

Rain Man 04-26-2018 09:26 PM

There is no such thing as a realistic expectation of Patrick Mahomes II. Even the pessimistic ones are unrealistic for other quarterbacks.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2018 09:31 PM

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140427111328


"Magic. A whole lot of magic".

Fat Elvis 09-26-2018 10:40 AM

:titus:

DRM08 09-26-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13533886)
There is no such thing as a realistic expectation of Patrick Mahomes II. Even the pessimistic ones are unrealistic for other quarterbacks.

Well now where do we go? lol

Halfcan 09-26-2018 11:09 AM

I took a lot of shit in this thread for my "unreasonable" expectations.

I even said I think Mahomes is going to blow things up. I predicted he would change the way we see the QB position and compared him to Marino in his second year.

So far, I am on track. He is completing less passes per game than I thought but is way more efficient and should top the 4600 yards I predicted. I also said he would break the Chiefs Season TD record and he is on track to destroy it. Mahomes is running a little less than I expected and I think that is a good thing to limit the risk of injury- we saw Foster try and headhunt him.

Mahomes is everything I expected- But so much more than I could dream. He is having a record-breaking season and we are on track to win the West again.

Naptown Chief 09-26-2018 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13764391)
I took a lot of shit in this thread for my "unreasonable" expectations.

I even said I think Mahomes is going to blow things up. I predicted he would change the way we see the QB position and compared him to Marino in his second year.

So far, I am on track. He is completing less passes per game than I thought but is way more efficient and should top the 4600 yards I predicted. I also said he would break the Chiefs Season TD record and he is on track to destroy it. Mahomes is running a little less than I expected and I think that is a good thing to limit the risk of injury- we saw Foster try and headhunt him.

Mahomes is everything I expected- But so much more than I could dream. He is having a record-breaking season and we are on track to win the West again.

A lot of people said to tone it down with the 4000k yards 40 TD talk. Maybe they should tone it up with their 3000k 20TD talk

BossChief 09-26-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13526874)
My honest appraisal of his floor if the offense stays healthy and doesn’t lose any major parts.

4000 yards passing
400 rushing 5tds
30 td passing
13 int

Huge playoff performances.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13527008)
My post was his floor, IMO.

If everyone stays healthy and focused, he has a chance to get 5000 total yards and 40 tds, possibly more.

We have the best skill position guys in the nfl and Mahomes is a special talent.

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13527020)
Better than the Steelers?


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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13527027)
Its really close, IMO.

Hunt = Bell
Hill = brown
Watkins = Bryant
Kelce > Jones

.

Rain Man 09-26-2018 11:58 AM

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I'm wearing my Mahomes jersey today.

saphojunkie 09-26-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 13527597)
I don’t care about his yards. But I will literally put money down he throws over 30 TDS. He’s gonna break the Chiefs record in his first full season.

You seem nice.

Kiimo 09-26-2018 12:18 PM

Haha well done

Hoover 09-26-2018 12:22 PM

1. Mahomes has already exceeded by expectations. This was suposed to be a transitional year, now it clearly doesn't look like that. Even when I thought it was a transitional year, I still thought we could contend for the Division. Now I expect to win it.

2. Mahomes is just fun to watch. i've NEVER enjoyed watching a Chiefs game like i do now. I know he will make mistake, but I don't think I'll ever really be disapointed in him, especialy early on in his career. I would get down on Smith and the Chiefs every time he shit the bed, why? Because it was a reminder that Smith and the Chiefs didn't really have what it takes to contend. Now its, hey, he's young and I'm glad he's taking a chance.

3. Wins and losses, especially in the playoffs are all that matters to me. it's fun to focus on stats, but lets be honest here, while Mahomes has had three weeks on insane stats, the 2017 NFL rushing leader is 17th in rushing yards. Am I upset about that? No, not one bit. I actually think its great. I'd rather have Hunt beast when we need it, like in the first game to give the defense a rest, to put the game on ice, or to win playoff games. Yeah I hope he gets a 1000 yards and 10 TDs, but I'm more interested in team success. I feel the same way about Mahomes.

Rasputin 09-26-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13527646)
He didn't throw a lot of intercepted in college so I'm not really expecting a lot of them even his first couple of years however if he does it's a learning experience and coaches have praised the kid for not making same mistakes and I know he can make up for them anyway.


All these years waiting for a draft pick prospect I can't believe he's here and could be better than imagine.

I am proud of this post i was right he wouldn't throw a lot of interceptions. I've said it time and time again he didn't throw a lot in college and he won't in the NFL he steps his level up.

The game looks too easy for the kid.

Marcellus 09-26-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13527133)
Best QB in the division out the gate, best QB in the AFC within another year, best QB in football within another 2 years.

I may have been behind the curve. LMAO

DRM08 09-26-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13764611)
I may have been behind the curve. LMAO

:D

:clap:

MIAdragon 12-31-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13531487)
Halfcan, 5000 yards and 40 TDs or your disappointed?

Dude nailed it.

Naptown Chief 12-31-2018 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 13527290)
3900 YDs
36 TDs
19 INTs

I thought I was being optimistic...

This kid is insane.

ChiefsFanatic 12-31-2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13526326)
He's done the same things at every level so far.* I think it will continue.* Only with much better skill players. He's going to blow this mother ****er apart

[QUOTE=RustShack;13526345]5,000 yards.[/QUOTE

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 13526405)
4000yds, 26/14 Although he may exceed this because I have a feeling the Chiefs are going to be in some track meets this season.

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13526413)
Here's what I expect. Over 3,500 yards. Over 20 TD's. Under 20 interceptions over 7.2 yards per attempt. 10 or more wins. Honestly, I think he'll exceed most of those numbers.* In my mind, that's sandbagging.* Maybe I'm overhyped, but I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 13526419)
Realistically? Assuming he stays healthy, I expect Mahomes to top 5,000 passing yards.

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13526480)
The brakes do need to be pumped a bit.* He'll be elite in time, but probably not 2018. I expect 4k yards, 26 TD/14 INT year one.* Chiefs go 8-8.* His first year will be pretty similar to Aaron's.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13526544)
If I had to guess, I’d say something around 34 TD’s, 16 INT’s and 4,400 yards.

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13526547)
I feel pretty confident saying Mahomes will throw for over 30 tds.

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13526715)
4,200 passing yards 28 TD passes 12 Interceptions 200 rushing yards with 3 rushing TDs 63% completion percent

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon (Post 13526748)
4,500 yards.* 35 TD's.* 11 interceptions.

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13526769)
4,000 yards, 30 TD, 15 INT

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13526792)
4300 yds / 29 TDs / 16 ints It'll be fun regardless.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13526874)
My honest appraisal of his floor if the offense stays healthy and doesn’t lose any major parts. 4000 yards passing 400 rushing 5tds 30 td passing 13 int Huge playoff performances.

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13526964)
4500 yards 30 TDs 14 INts

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13527019)
I think 4000 yards is attainable.** 11-5 30 tds 13 ints

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13527133)
Best QB in the division out the gate, best QB in the AFC within another year, best QB in football within another 2 years.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13527170)
3200 yards passing 18 TDs 7 INTs Very 'Alex Smith' like numbers

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13527194)
I predict 4000 yard, 25 TD and 17INT. Posted via Mobile Device

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13527604)
My minimum expectations are 4000+ yards & 30+ TD’s. He needs to break Lenny’s TD pass record.

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13527643)
I personally think the kid is going to light it up, but with that is going to come some interceptions. Give me 4,400 yards, 29 TD and 19 INT.

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 13528388)
I'm going to put my official guess down at: 3742 yards 31 TDs 13 INTs 11-5 overall record
Makes playoffs

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 13528613)
4,300 yards, 62% completion, 32 TDs, 16 INTs, 250 rush yards, 2 rush TDs

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 13531736)
7-9, 4kyards passing, 28tds, 18ints, 400rushing with 3 tds

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 13531788)
Totals: 60% comp, 3696yds passing, 32TD, 21INT; 384yds rushing, 4TDs

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Fat Elvis 12-31-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 13526419)
Realistically?

Assuming he stays healthy, I expect Mahomes to top 5,000 passing yards.

In his first start, playing with scrubs against one of the best pass D's in the NFL, he put up 284 yards. Assuming that is an average game for him, he is already at 4,544 yards for the season. With scrubs. Against a good pass D.

To top 5,000 yards in a 16 game season, he would have to average 312 passing yards per game.

The question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you believe that Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelce, and Kareem Hunt can contribute another 28 yards per game, on average, against typically lesser defenses.

Another way to think about it: Do you think that Mahomes, with those tools, can average about 26 passing yards per possession over the course of a season? Considering that he (so far) averages 8.11 yards per attempt, I think that over the course of a season, he can hit that mark with relative ease.

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 13526429)
You realize that a QB has only gone over 5k yards 9 times in NFL history, and only 5 different QBs have ever done it, right? That would be a monumental achievement for any QB, much less a first time starter.

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13526435)
Sorry man, you can't say 'realistically' and then spend an entire post justifying a simple formula.

All you did was take a guy's first start and averaged it out over 16 games.

I'm not going average out a totally meaningless week 17 game against a 5-11 team that had given up and taken MOST of their defensive starters out by the start of the 3rd quarter over 16 games and then say 'realistic'.

Mahomes showed a lot, but c'mon. That's not a realistic way to think of anything. Even if you're right that's a terrible way to get to the conclusion.

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 13526440)
13 QBs last year threw for over 3,500 yards. How many of those QBs had thetools that Mahomes will have at his disposal?

To say that Mahomes will throw for 3,500 yards is to say that he is, at best, a very, very average QB.....

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief (Post 13526450)
Or....a very very young QB who is managed very well by his experienced head coach.

I think most teams are going to force the Chiefs to run the ball....and Andy will take advantage of that.

Smart head coaches generally don't have their super young QB throwing the ball 35+ times a game.

Marino, Luck, and Manning are some of the few exceptions over the last 30 years...

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 13526462)
You don't think Mahomes will put up an average of 59 more passing yards per game than Alex Smith?

Watkins averages 15.9 yds/catch
Hill averages 15.8
Kelce averages 12.7
Hunt averages 8.7

The Chiefs brass traded away Smith because they thought they could get more output from Mahomes; they doubled down on that bet by giving Watkins a big contract.

Its not just Mahomes; it is the weapons he has at his disposal. I think the Chiefs probably have the best set of offensive skill position players in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 13526470)
Considering that across the NFL, teams have an average of 11.5 possessions per game, you're telling me that it is unrealistic to think that Mahomes will average 5 passing yards more per possession than Alex Smith?

I was (am) a big fan of Alex Smith, but the big difference between Mahomes and Smith is that Mahomes throws the ball *downfield*; he isn't looking for the dump-off, he is looking for the first down and more each and every time.


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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13526719)
You ****ing idiot, it's a fact that the LB's played almost every snap of that game but the DL and DB's didn't. That's reality. It has nothing to do with 'knowmo' or bronco fans. Jesus. Look up the snap counts and stop being offended by reality. Nobody is saying Mahomes was shit or that nothing he did mattered. I'm saying you can't just say "Well, now that he's had one start in week 17 against a 5-10 team that sat most of it's defensive starters in a meaningless game we can average that production out across his whole career!"

It's reeruned to average out 1 game against a 5-10 team playing a bunch of back ups in week 17. Do you disagree, or are you just being an asshole?

The fact that it was mostly Mahomes and back ups vs. Bronco back up DB's and DL only reinforces the point I"m making. The dynamics will be entirely different.

Christ this board is going full homer if I'm being called out for saying it probably isn't realistic to average a rookie's first start across an entire season (and adding selected stats on a whim). Will he also throw 0 TD's and 16 INT's? C'mon. I'm 100% on the kid's wagon, but I"m not going to predict a 5K 50 TD season. Sorry for being 'pessimistic'.

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief (Post 13526427)
ROFL

I have a bad feeling this thread is going to get bumped next January for all the wrong reasons...

:titus:

RealSNR 12-31-2018 10:42 AM

Seriously, I said as much in this thread. You are/were a butt****ing moron if you didn't think he'd hit 4000 yards.

Wasn't as sure about the TDs and INTs, but 4000 yards? ****, Alex Smith was a couple hundred yards away from 4000 frequently in his Chiefs career. Absolutely ZERO reason why Mahomes wouldn't top that number.

Did I see 5000 yards coming? No. I wouldn't have been surprised, but did I see it coming? I did not.

RealSNR 12-31-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 13998542)
:titus:

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BossChief 12-31-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13526874)
My honest appraisal of his floor if the offense stays healthy and doesn’t lose any major parts.

4000 yards passing
400 rushing 5tds
30 td passing
13 int

Huge playoff performances.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13526900)
Guys, don't be afraid to have high expectations.

You have every reason to expect a lot. Everything HE has shown us up to this point warrants those expectations. Everything the Chiefs have said and done warrant those expectations.

If you are wrong in your bold prediction, know that you will be in good company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13527008)
My post was his floor, IMO.

If everyone stays healthy and focused, he has a chance to get 5000 total yards and 40 tds, possibly more.

We have the best skill position guys in the nfl and Mahomes is a special talent.

He did it while losing Watkins and Hunt for a big part of the year.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13526301)
anything over 3600 yards and under 20 INTs I would consider a success statistically.


You have to be in heaven.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13526324)
What I want is 4000 yards, 30 TD's 12 Int. What I realistically expect is 3200 yards 25 TD's 15 Int. That would be a disappointment to a lot of us. But I think that it would be good for a first year starter.


This thread is great.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 13526345)
5,000 yards.


Good call

Kiimo 12-31-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 13998542)
:titus:

You deserve all the accolades. I haven't seen one prediction of going over 5000 yards other than yours. Wow.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13526349)
Realistic? 3800 yards, 25 TDs and 14 INTs.


That was realistic.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13526352)
This is right. He only needs 250 yards a game to get to 4000. He had 287 in his debut against a pretty good defense. I expect at least 4000 and I think we will consider 250 as a poor game for him.



I expect 4500 , 27 TDs and 12 ints.



and guess what. he gets to play with the 1's now. Kelce, Hill and Watkins.



Not bad except for the TD’s.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13526480)
The brakes do need to be pumped a bit. He'll be elite in time, but probably not 2018.

I expect 4k yards, 26 TD/14 INT year one. Chiefs go 8-8. His first year will be pretty similar to Aaron's.


No brakes dude!

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13526503)
lead the offense to average 26 points or over would be a successful output too


So I guess you are happy with 35?

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13526643)
4000-4200 yards, 30+ TD, 15- INT, 60% completion.



Reasons.

--Ultra talented, smart, reportedly a good grasp for the offense and leader.

--Weapons galore. Possibly the best collection of skill position talent in the NFL.

--Reid will make sure he succeeds.

--Defense is average at best. Key injuries, like Berry, and the flood gates will open again. There will be a lot of shootouts.


Not a bad prediction.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 13526776)
Better than Alex Smith's best year.


Playing it safe.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13526877)
My expectation is that Chiefs football will be fun again!

Patrick Mahomes worst year will still be better than Alex Smith's best year.



Nailed it!

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13527107)
Reading through the thread I am surprised that people think Mahomes will not be as good as our previous QB- stat wise- while throwing more Interceptions.

Mahomes will break the Chief's season QB record for TD's and Yards this year- count on it.


Nice

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13527170)
3200 yards passing

18 TDs
7 INTs

Very 'Alex Smith' like numbers


LMAO

Marcellus 12-31-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13527133)
Best QB in the division out the gate, best QB in the AFC within another year, best QB in football within another 2 years.

Well I was mostly right. :D

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13527604)
My minimum expectations are 4000+ yards & 30+ TD’s.

He needs to break Lenny’s TD pass record.



I’m so good.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 13528269)
6700 yds, 59td 3 int, book it! Chiefs go 9-7 and miss the playoffs because they give up a league record 62 field goals in the Pittsburgh game.


LMAO

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13528304)
Gonna go out on a limb... more career wins than losses.


He’s off to a good start.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13528343)
Umm... I shouldn't even respond to this but I will...



4400 yards would have put him 4th in the NFL in 2017.

29 TD's would have tied him for 4th in the NFL in 2017.

I feel like I"m going full homer just by thinking he will get anywhere near those numbers, when history says it's highly unlikely.



19 INTs are only 4 more than Peyton Manning threw in his 2nd season and 9 less than he threw his rookie year. Dan Marino, even in his epic 2nd season, threw 17 picks. Drew Brees, who played in only 1 game as a rookie as well, threw 16 picks. The list goes on.



Point is, even some of the better QBs of the past 20 years have had to learn the hard way. This kid is a risk taker and he's likely going to throw quite a few picks his first year out the gate.



If I were looking more at history and less at how I feel about this kid's abilities, I'd probably have him around 3500 yards, 20 tds and 17 ints as a best-case scenario. I chose instead to go full homer.



If you're expecting some crazy shit like 4700 yards, 35 tds and 10 ints in year 1, I think you ought to temper your expectations.


LMAO

carcosa 12-31-2018 11:31 AM

Forgot to post in this thread but I definitely expected 5000 yards and 50 TDs

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13531487)
Halfcan, 5000 yards and 40 TDs or your disappointed?


He wasn’t disappointed.

KChiefs1 12-31-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 13531656)
Mahomes is a bust.


This thread is hilarious.

PAChiefsGuy 12-31-2018 11:40 AM

Unbelievable season for Mahomes and our offense. I don't think anyone could have predicted he would be this good although some of you were very close. Props for that.

Now the real test comes, the playoffs.

Kiimo 12-31-2018 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13998889)
Unbelievable season for Mahomes and our offense. I don't think anyone could have predicted he would be this good although some of you were very close. Props for that.

Now the real test comes, the playoffs.

Well then I predict 12 touchdowns and a Super Bowl win since history is teaching us not to bid low.

IowaHawkeyeChief 12-31-2018 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13526455)
Mahomes isn't scared, he has the physical tools to dominate at this level.

The unknown is his mental ability and I think we saw a sample of mental maturity in the Denver game.

Once Harris caught that first pass, it was on. Mahomes was locked and I don't think we have to worry about looking back.

The 48 year wait is over, enjoy it. This team is going to piss the NFL and the LA bandwagon off. They know it, that is why they started the schedule out 3 of 4 on the road.

It is all about LA but the Chiefs are going to spoil that party. 12-4 with a trip to the AFC championship game being the floor.

I didn't see anyone giving props to this HemiEd post... Nailed it pretty well.

Mosbonian 12-31-2018 02:28 PM

Want some real entertainment along with this....go back and read all the preseason prognostication by the "experts".

IowaHawkeyeChief 12-31-2018 03:04 PM

interesting article:

Spoiler!





https://www.foxsports.com/

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-31-2018 04:44 PM

Just a mediocre defense, please! Can you imagine what this kid does with with a top 10 defense every year???

If the Chiefs kept only a consistent TWO premium play makers on offense throughout the entirety of his career combined with a top 10 defense, Mahomes could STILL retire the '73 Dolphins. MORE THAN ONCE.

TwistedChief 12-31-2018 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13998889)
Unbelievable season for Mahomes and our offense. I don't think anyone could have predicted he would be this good although some of you were very close. Props for that.

Now the real test comes, the playoffs.

PAChiefsGuy and I experienced Mahomes together at the game against Pittsburgh. It was magic. He's obviously hated on as a devout Alex Smith defender but he left that game saying he was completely wrong and never seen anything like it. He was (relatively) quick to believe.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-31-2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13999750)
PAChiefsGuy and I experienced Mahomes together at the game against Pittsburgh. It was magic. He's obviously hated on as a devout Alex Smith defender but he left that game saying he was completely wrong and never seen anything like it. He was (relatively) quick to believe.

Well I would certainly ****ing hope so. I mean god damn, that's like comparing rotten apples to a perfectly sculpted island babe hand feeding you fresh fruit while playing with your tension rod.

BigCatDaddy 12-31-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13999786)
Well I would certainly ****ing hope so. I mean god damn, that's like comparing rotten apples to a perfectly sculpted island babe hand feeding you fresh fruit while playing with your tension rod.

Perfect analogy.

Halfcan 12-31-2018 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13529033)
Great post. I understand what you are saying- and I agree. If Mahomes wins 10 games with that tough schedule, puts up 4k in yards and 30 Td's, we win the West again and at least a playoff game- that would be an amazing 2nd year for him. Wins are the best stat.

With that said- I still have this feeling that Mahomes is going blow things up.

I think the standard that we judge QB's now is going to change with these young guns coming in and more wide-open offenses. A 300-yard game will become the average and a 400-yard game will be the measuring stick of a great game.

All signs indicate that Reid is going to come out with something different the NFL has not seen before. It will take teams a while to adjust. Unless I am completely missing something with the signing of Sammy- this offense will be the best in Chiefs history (at least on paper). This is why I said less than 2 TD's a game seemed low. We saw Watson put up eye-popping numbers in Houston last year- I think Mahomes will so the same.

I am going on Record with these numbers:

31.33 completions per game X 16 games= 501.28 X 9.2 per attempt= 4612 Total passing yards.

63% completion on 49.73 attempts per game. 2.3 TD's per game X 16= 36.8 rounded up to 37 Total passing TD's

27 yards per game rushing X 16 games = 432 Total Rushing Yards

.04 Rushing TD's per game X 16 games= 4 Rushing TD's


.90 INTs per game X 16 = 14.5 rounded up to 15 INTs.

Mahomes blew past my highest expectations. I took a lot of "Homer" shit predicting stats this high, but I knew he was going to be amazing!

Halfcan 12-31-2018 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13998864)
He wasn’t disappointed.

Nope, I tried to tell him Mahomes was going to be great. Still, people are doubting him with the one and done shit. :rolleyes:

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-31-2018 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13999848)
Nope, I tried to tell him Mahomes was going to be great. Still, people are doubting him with the one and done shit. :rolleyes:

I'm doubting Reid, the defense, and the team as a whole, NOT PMII.

HemiEd 12-31-2018 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13526455)
Mahomes isn't scared, he has the physical tools to dominate at this level.

The unknown is his mental ability and I think we saw a sample of mental maturity in the Denver game.

Once Harris caught that first pass, it was on. Mahomes was locked and I don't think we have to worry about looking back.

The 48 year wait is over, enjoy it. This team is going to piss the NFL and the LA bandwagon off. They know it, that is why they started the schedule out 3 of 4 on the road.

It is all about LA but the Chiefs are going to spoil that party. 12-4 with a trip to the AFC championship game being the floor.



Hmmm, kind of nailed it here. :harumph:

IowaHawkeyeChief 12-31-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13999938)
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Hmmm, kind of nailed it here. :harumph:

You did... gave you props a few posts back. :drool:

WhiteWhale 12-31-2018 06:25 PM

I love how I spend the early part of this thread arguing at how 'unrealistic' it is to EXPECT a 50 TD 5000 yard season.

I STILL think that's an unrealistic expectation of a first year starter. It's a full blown optimistic and borderline unfair expectation of a first year starter... and yet here we sit.

And I expected a pretty good ****ing season.

WhiteWhale 12-31-2018 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13998843)
Well I was mostly right. :D

Like most, you sandbagged too much.

TLO 12-31-2018 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13532036)
I personnally feel that most Chiefs fans overrate how good Mahomes will be next year but underrate the defense going into next year, taking into account the upcoming draft.

Good lord


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