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Molitoth 06-12-2018 12:11 PM

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Fish 06-12-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 13590101)
It's a typical tactic, only present part of the statistics to make things appear a certain way. Yes, pits are known for their destructive bite power. That doesn't mean that most pits are aggressive, man-eaters. As a matter of fact, they aren't aggressive to humans by nature. It's thug wannabes that tend to make them aggressive, IMO. And yes, those people owning pits are a problem. I just hate the anti-breed people.

This week, I am watching my son's pit while he is in Iowa. The mean, vicious thing was so scared of the storm last night that she kept trying to jump in bed with us. She ended up sleeping on the floor beside our bed. This morning, I was awoken by lots of licks and hugs with a wagging tail. That's just one of many of the good interactions with pits that I have had.

What exactly are you talking about? What other statistic do you think needs added to this statement:

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In the 13-year period of 2005 to 2017, canines killed 433 Americans. Pit bulls contributed to 66% (284) of these deaths. Within this period, deaths attributed to pit bulls rose from 58% (2005 to 2010) to 71% (2011 to 2017), a 22% rise.
Please feel free to contribute whatever other statistic you feel is missing. Pit bulls contributed to 2/3rds of the US deaths from canines while they make up less than 10% of the US canine population.

It sounds like you're babysitting a nice one. But that's irrelevant with regards to the above statistic. Nobody is saying all pits are aggressive murderers. Just that a high percentage of them are compared to other breeds. And it's absolutely not just the owners.

BIG_DADDY 06-12-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13590127)
What exactly are you talking about? What other statistic do you think needs added to this statement:



Please feel free to contribute whatever other statistic you feel is missing. Pit bulls contributed to 2/3rds of the US deaths from canines while they make up less than 10% of the US canine population.

It sounds like you're babysitting a nice one. But that's irrelevant with regards to the above statistic. Nobody is saying all pits are aggressive murderers. Just that a high percentage of them are compared to other breeds. And it's absolutely not just the owners.

Jesus Christ why are you always on the wrong side of everything? They labeled the presa canarios pit bulls, not even close. Anything that even looks even remotely close to a pit like boxer/lab mix gets put in that category. For many years I posted examples and I know you saw them. Now you are going to come in like some analytical stat guru and use the same crap you already know is BS. Color me shocked.

BIG_DADDY 06-12-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13590120)
I don't look at statistics that may or may not be skewed. I look at personal experience over more than a decade of regular interaction. And make no mistake, I keep a close eye on some of the mastiffs and rotts, and other protection breeds as well.

Pitbulls and some pit mixes win the least trusted dog breed sweepstakes.

Pits are more animal aggressive, duh. That's why I don't have one living on a ranch.

Beef Supreme 06-12-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13590143)
Pits are more animal aggressive, duh. That's why I don't have one living on a ranch.

I'm glad that fact is a "duh" moment for you. Please spread the word to the jackasses that keep bringing them to the dog park.

And spread the word to the humane society that keeps handing them out like candy on halloween to any unqualified dumbass with a pulse and a bleeding heart.

And maybe you should get up the ass of all of the terrible pitbull owners instead of the people who are sick of dealing with those assholes and their dangerous dogs.

BIG_DADDY 06-12-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13590152)
I'm glad that fact is a "duh" moment for you. Please spread the word to the jackasses that keep bringing them to the dog park.

And spread the word to the humane society that keeps handing them out like candy on halloween to any unqualified dumbass with a pulse and a bleeding heart.

And maybe you should get up the ass of all of the terrible pitbull owners instead of the people who are sick of dealing with those assholes and their dangerous dogs.

I have always felt the owners should be held liable for what their dogs do.

I don't go to dog parks. I am not sure about rules there, that is up to the city. There are a lot of breeds that could very aggressive in that environment. I don't think that distinction is pit exclusive.

I am not an up the ass kind of guy.

Beef Supreme 06-12-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13590160)
I have always felt the owners should be held liable for what their dogs do.

I don't go to dog parks. I am not sure about rules there, that is up to the city. There are a lot of breeds that could very aggressive in that environment. I don't think that distinction is pit exclusive.

I am not an up the ass kind of guy.

If responsible pitbull owners want to insist the world to view their dogs in a different light, they need to, at the very least, police their own. I don't think they could, even if they tried, but they don't even try. They take an us against them attitude, just like you have in this thread.

So **** 'em. I'm not going to be sympathetic to the plight of the poor misunderstood pitbull. I'm going to let people know that they shouldn't believe the bullshit coming out of their owners mouths.

Mr. Wizard 06-12-2018 01:09 PM

f that
 
My three children were attacked by 4 pit bulls. When the kids ran to the backyard and locked the gate then our dogs confronted the pit bulls trying to protect the kids. The kids (16, 13 and 5) then grabbed our dogs and locked them in the garage. The pit bulls busted through a chain link fence gate and proceeded to bust the glass on the garage storm door and bust holes through the garage door. The kids ran to get mom and she called me. When I got there I managed to get the gate back in place to lock them in our backyard and went for my gun.
My wife called 911, the pits were still trying to gain access to our garage through a beat down door, and 911 said I could not legally shoot them and that all units were busy. I grabbed the phone and said " i am shooting them all now" and hung up. Miraculously a unit was there in less than a minute
The cop called animal control, they came and pepper sprayed the shit out of the dogs while catching them. I did get not repayed for the damage and was informed that if i had fired my weapon in the backyard i would have been arrested. If I was in the garage and had shot the dogs in the garage I would have not been arrested.
F--K pit bulls and their owners. ALL OF THEM.:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

Fish 06-12-2018 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13590142)
Jesus Christ why are you always on the wrong side of everything? They labeled the presa canarios pit bulls, not even close. Anything that even looks even remotely close to a pit like boxer/lab mix gets put in that category. For many years I posted examples and I know you saw them. Now you are going to come in like some analytical stat guru and use the same crap you already know is BS. Color me shocked.

"They" who? If you have some stats that refute the above numbers, I'd be happy to look at them. But you can't just dismiss stats because you don't like them. I don't remember you posting any statistics regarding it. But I don't remember you posting anything over the last 5 years or so.

BIG_DADDY 06-12-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13590193)
If responsible pitbull owners want to insist the world to view their dogs in a different light, they need to, at the very least, police their own. I don't think they could, even if they tried, but they don't even try. They take an us against them attitude, just like you have in this thread.

So **** 'em. I'm not going to be sympathetic to the plight of the poor misunderstood pitbull. I'm going to let people know that they shouldn't believe the bullshit coming out of their owners mouths.

Yea I know you've noticed things. Go enlighten the world with your vault of pit bull knowledge now grasshopper. Nobody is stopping you.

Beef Supreme 06-12-2018 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13590206)
Yea I know you've noticed things. Go enlighten the world with your vault of pit bull knowledge now grasshopper. Nobody is stopping you.

I don't need to enlighten anyone. It is self evident to anyone with a lick of sense that owning a pit is rolling the dice. I will call you on your bullshit when you try to convince people that it isn't.

BIG_DADDY 06-12-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13590198)
"They" who? If you have some stats that refute the above numbers, I'd be happy to look at them. But you can't just dismiss stats because you don't like them. I don't remember you posting any statistics regarding it. But I don't remember you posting anything over the last 5 years or so.

Yea well I haven't been here for longer than that. The point was that mislabeling the breed which I posted examples of many, many times over the years happens all the time. Trying to get a legitimate stat on this breed is like asking CNN for objective news. The reminder was the presa canarios killing the woman in SF. How they got labeled pit bulls isn't an accident and was certainly no mistake.

Pits were bred to be animal aggressive. They cull human aggression. People handle them in the pit when they are fighting. The most irresponsible owners are those that want to mix it with another breed that is not so stable.

I just googled it because it is not hard to find if you are actually looking for it. I did notice your favorite the CDC is in there.

https://www.pitbullinfo.org/

I didn't read through it but on the surface is looks like tons of different research and 50% of all pit bull attacks are mislabeled. Color me shocked when I used to post examples of this mislabeling all the time.

BIG_DADDY 06-12-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13590209)
I don't need to enlighten anyone. It is self evident to anyone with a lick of sense that owning a pit is rolling the dice. I will call you on your bullshit when you try to convince people that it isn't.

Yea well I have owned may pits in my life Mr. Self-Evident. By all means don't let me slow you down.

BIG_DADDY 06-12-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 13590195)
My three children were attacked by 4 pit bulls. When the kids ran to the backyard and locked the gate then our dogs confronted the pit bulls trying to protect the kids. The kids (16, 13 and 5) then grabbed our dogs and locked them in the garage. The pit bulls busted through a chain link fence gate and proceeded to bust the glass on the garage storm door and bust holes through the garage door. The kids ran to get mom and she called me. When I got there I managed to get the gate back in place to lock them in our backyard and went for my gun.
My wife called 911, the pits were still trying to gain access to our garage through a beat down door, and 911 said I could not legally shoot them and that all units were busy. I grabbed the phone and said " i am shooting them all now" and hung up. Miraculously a unit was there in less than a minute
The cop called animal control, they came and pepper sprayed the shit out of the dogs while catching them. I did get not repayed for the damage and was informed that if i had fired my weapon in the backyard i would have been arrested. If I was in the garage and had shot the dogs in the garage I would have not been arrested.
F--K pit bulls and their owners. ALL OF THEM.:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

That's quite a story you have there. Kind of like a Kujo/The Pack thriller.

wazu 06-12-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 13590195)
My three children were attacked by 4 pit bulls. When the kids ran to the backyard and locked the gate then our dogs confronted the pit bulls trying to protect the kids. The kids (16, 13 and 5) then grabbed our dogs and locked them in the garage. The pit bulls busted through a chain link fence gate and proceeded to bust the glass on the garage storm door and bust holes through the garage door. The kids ran to get mom and she called me. When I got there I managed to get the gate back in place to lock them in our backyard and went for my gun.
My wife called 911, the pits were still trying to gain access to our garage through a beat down door, and 911 said I could not legally shoot them and that all units were busy. I grabbed the phone and said " i am shooting them all now" and hung up. Miraculously a unit was there in less than a minute
The cop called animal control, they came and pepper sprayed the shit out of the dogs while catching them. I did get not repayed for the damage and was informed that if i had fired my weapon in the backyard i would have been arrested. If I was in the garage and had shot the dogs in the garage I would have not been arrested.
F--K pit bulls and their owners. ALL OF THEM.:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

They are sweet, loving animals. Probably just wanted to pull your children from a burning building. And eat them.


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