DJ Alexander gets traded to Seattle
 

For Seahawks LB Kevin Pierre-Louis

Louis had 12 tackles last year...so there's that.

Veaching it up!

Pierre-Louis is an edge rusher, I believe

What the - ? He was a pro bowler! Dorsey would never stand for this.

The French guy has made one start in three years. Is he a special teams guy? I have no idea what's going on here.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...P/PierKe00.htm

Swap of the special teamers for some reason.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profil...uis?id=2543563

****ing PC atmosphere.

Now we're adding guys just because they sound french and have a hyphen in their name...

Maybe Veach thought he was getting Jason Pierre-Paul?

Or maybe LDT would feel more at ease if there were another French-ish name on the roster.

Alexander was a great ST player but a horrible ILB

If they were just swapping special teamers, my guess is they think Pierre-Louis offers more defensive upside. Probably didn't want to keep DJA for just special teams ability. :shrug:

http://sports.mynorthwest.com/303302...nsive-players/

Pierre-Louis tore up the combine. Probably like his athleticism.

4.51 forty, 28 bench reps, 39 inch vert, 4.02 shuttle.

Holy shit, that's a shocker

change made. Now we need a WR

The Seahawks signed Marcus Smith, who was just cut by the Eagles two days ago, so this guy was expendable.

But man, Veach must not have valued Alexander. Wow.

Veach making moves!!

I'm gonna guess that between Veach and Andy, they realized that DJ was their 5th best ILB. They likely didn't want to cut him, nor did they want to keep him for only ST contributions.

Only thing that makes sense, IMO.

So they trade him for a guy that's going to be their 5th best OLB and only play on STs? Makes sense.

I'm really kinda shocked. They must see something in Pepe LePew because DJ Alexander was aces on ST last year.

I don't know what position he will play here, but Dadi Nicolas isn't going to be ready for the start of the season.

News is Boldin met with the Bills..

Seems odd. Why trade a proven special teamer? They must think this Louis guy is a better schematic fit with equal special teams potential.

If i have two bottom of the roster players, i'd take the one that's at least made a Pro Bowl as a special teamer

Pierre Louis was a freak at the combine. Alexander was a great speacial teamer but not a ILB. Pierre Louis gives you a better ILB.

If this guy cold run Frank ****ing Zombo outta town that would be great

I guess I just don't see the point.

They must think the new guy can actually compete for an ILB job because he isn't going to do a better job than Alexander on special teams. He might be as good (though even that's unlikely), but Alexander was outstanding there; he's not going to offer a legit improvement.

So why not stick with the devil you know? They're about the same size, damn near the exact same age (Alexander has an extra year on his rookie deal though). Same warts, same strengths.

This sure looks like a move for the sake of making a move.

That leaves Sherman as our best special teamer right now

Maybe he's a diamond in the rough like Escobar could be, just buried in the depth chart behind elite players

And they still have Zombo. Unless this guy is going to take his roster spot......it doesn't really make any sense. I guess you could look at it....as we had a TON of "guys" at the ILB spot.

Based on what?

Pierre-Louis is no more an NFL linebacker than DJ Alexander is. Neither guy has proven they can play at this level, let alone start. So if they're rotational ILBs, they're little more than special teams players.

And if that's the case, Alexanders the better guy to keep, if for no other reason than his familiarity with the system.

This move makes zero sense on the surface. There has to be more to the story.

You guys are freaking out over a special teamer getting traded. It's not like we traded Peters or Kelce

Fans already having a Tamba Hali-like meltdown on Twitter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pro Bowler for someone who was out with a shoulder injury last year. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ithastogetbetter?src=hash">#ithastogetbetter</a></p>&mdash; ChiefsGirl56 (@kellereid) <a href="https://twitter.com/kellereid/status/890973179447046144">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">terrible move for the Chiefs. DJ was a stud on ST unit...damn you&#39;re making it hard to be a Chiefs fan with all these terrible moves.</p>&mdash; Ryan Walters (@rwalters21) <a href="https://twitter.com/rwalters21/status/890969847810674688">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs got fleeced</p>&mdash; RCJH (@Kansashoopschat) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kansashoopschat/status/890969804974153728">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">9 wins this year I feel. Which is pathetic for what you we could&#39;ve been</p>&mdash; Michael Wells (@Hyphology) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hyphology/status/890969028994400256">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You guys are really pissing me off this offseason jesus</p>&mdash; Mizzou Daily (@MizzouDaily) <a href="https://twitter.com/MizzouDaily/status/890967694446661632">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So much for our good GM. DJ is known in the NFL. Who the **** is Kevin Pierre-Louis?? A nobody. How many games are we gonna win this year??</p>&mdash; Raymond James (@rjames1018) <a href="https://twitter.com/rjames1018/status/890968531520692226">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you ****ing reerunED?!?</p>&mdash; Bob Sackamanno (@SackamannoBob) <a href="https://twitter.com/SackamannoBob/status/890970779508252672">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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With DJ, Mauga, March, Wilson, and now Eligwe -- there's just little chance Alexander could have made this team.

So he's listed as OLB but was he drafted by Carroll as a potential replacement to Bruce Irvin as more of a hybrid linebacker?

Will Tamba be traded? I doubt it. But maybe this dude can play ILB...

I'm just confused.

4.51 speed at the combine. He can certainly keep up with Tight ends.

He played on the edge in that Irvin type of position in Seattle. I'd guess he is here to play OLB.

In that case, it makes sense. Gives us a guy while Nicolas tries to come back, potentially lets us move on from Zombo when he does return.

No. Not with his contract

Our ILBs are ****ing trash.

Crazy trade

Besides DJ

In the red zone they are pretty good. Outside of that, they are pretty damn bad. But then again, Poe wasn't up to his standards for the last 2 seasons..

DJ is going to be a shell of his former self.

Or move Zombo inside? The guy does NOT have the speed to play outside anymore....

As I've been saying recently, the Chiefs had too many ILBer's on the roster in March, Wilson, DJ, Eligwe, Mauga and Alexander. This move all but cements Mauga on the 53.

OLB is certainly a position of need. Nicolas could be out for months, Hali is old, Zombo is fairly infective, Houston hasn't played a full season since 2014.

This is not really a shock when looked at with a calm demeanor.

Maybe this guy was one of Veach's 4 players that "hit". Maybe to them a "hit" means survived cuts to make a team.

So then you get a draft pick for him. You don't trade him for another guy you're going to cut.

Lol no

Youth for Youth.

Inside for Outside.

It makes sense. Toub can turn any scrub into a great special teamer.

This kid had the 2nd best SPARQ score among OLB's in the 2014 draft.

Only Ryan Shazier's was better.

Continuing the pattern...

So then at the very least, with that physical ability, he should be easy to mold into a core special teamer.

I understand now though at least. Initially i thought he was another ILB, which didn't make any sense to me.

The Chiefs are really behind the 8 Ball in terms of pass rushing OLBer's.

Most of the best pass rushers go in the first round of the draft and the Chiefs don't have a 2018 first rounder.

It appears that Veach and the personnel staff are leaving no stone unturned.

They do love them some SPARQ scores, don't they.

Veach's 'decision lens' starts to take shape...

Everyone needs to relax. We traded a special teamer not a starter

So trade him for a 6th.

You don't trade him for a guy that presents the same problems he did.

Hopefully this guy can take Zombo's spot because Zombo is ****ing done.

The Chiefs need OLBers

Dorsey just rolled over in his grave.

We've had success trading for guys from the Seahawks. Ron Parker is an example and now
He's one of the best FS in the game

Don't think so. We traded for a really high SPARQ guy at a position of need. Dorsey loved him some SPARQ guys.

Phillip Gaines
Eric Murray
DAT
DJ Alexander
Knile Davis
Steven Nelson

All of these guys have been good ST's players under Toub. I would imagine that it was a move to help with depth on the field at OLB with a crowded position at ILB.

Eligwe was likely a guy Toub liked when we drafted him. I don't see an enormous drop off here as long as Toub is with us.

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Combine starts at 2:53.

I guess I don't mind it. I definitely like Alexander on STs but if this guys has measurable that give him a chance at being a starter at a position of need, I'm fine with it. STs is important but much less so on kickoffs than it used to be. Personally I liked how Dorsey turned over the bottom of the roster a ton, this looks like more of the same. I guess we'll see if it was worth it soon enough.

Definitley has the quicks. Maybe Zombo might really get a look inside?

Terez Paylor pointed out that Alexander actually fell behind Terrance Smith on the depth chart last year, so he was maybe the #6 ILB on this team.

Well, crap. :sulk:

At least I get to see him play locally.

This move only makes sense if KPL plays OLB. That said, he played OLB in a 4-3. His one start was filling in for an injured Bobby Wagner a couple of years ago. KPL is actually shorter and lighter than DJA so I don't see why he would be a better option as a rush backer. KPL is also injured a lot. Seems like a bad move.

KPL 6' 0", 230 lbs

DJA 6'2", 233 lb

Agreed he's terrible.

People shouldn't sleep on Terrance Smith though. I'd bet money he's a starter either late this year or early next. Eligwe and Smith could be a super talented duo in the years ahead.

I keep thinking that Zombo must provide some value that we don't understand. Maybe he's helping coach up other guys or something, because on the field he's a liability in the defense. They kept having him rush the passer last year and I never saw him enter the same Zip Code as the passer. It does seem like he's a better fit inside where the ball runs toward him instead of vice versa.

So Veach makes his first decision...trading a pro-bowl level ST player for OLB depth. Ballsy move...we'll see how this plays out. Common sense says you keep the players that contribute but Dorsey made moves that nobody realized until they showed up on gameday.

KC must have liked him during the draft...but Alexander had more proven worth. Not exactly a value vs. value exchange...at least on the surface. Veach still has access to Dorsey's scouting reports...at least for a season or two.

Saying it is a super bad move based on numbers is pretty short-sighted. Clearly they traded him for a reason and clearly got a guy they wanted for a reason. Saying that you don't know what that reason is doesn't make it a bad move, it makes you ignorant of the thought process. lmao already throwing Veach under the bus because the guy was good on special teams.

https://twitter.com/jeff_mclane/stat...88475020976129

Any spare parts we could send them?

We needed to improve the run defense. Alexander could not get off blocks to save his life

Special teams is not where you put your superstars. I will never understand why people overanalyze this shit sometimes.. LMAO

We traded a special teamer for a guy with rare physical talent at LB. Sounds good to me.

Interesting...Philly 3-4 LB that's, now, in the wrong scheme. A lot of people wanted Kendricks before Kelly signed him...he's only 26 year old.

A 5th round pick.

LMAO You guys have been hollering for Kendricks for like 3 years now.