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ILChief 10-15-2018 06:17 PM

How many players on defense are good (need to be retained next year)
 
Houston is broke and probably won't be back (without a massive pay cut)
Berry will be technically on the team but you can't count on him actually playing


I was really excited about the ILBs this year with Hitchens and Ragland but they've been a disaster


Fuller is OK. Scandrick has played better than expected. Nelson is a flag machine


Ford is having his best year in a contract year of course


They cut Parker once and he didn't learn how to tackle during his cup of coffee in Atlanta


The d-line separately seems good in Jones, Bailey, and Nnadi. But collectively they're getting run on







DL: Jones, Nnadi, Bailey
LB: Speaks, Hitchens, ???, Ford/KPass
CB: Fuller, ???, ???
S: ???, ??? (I like the Lucas guy in limited snaps)

Molitoth 10-15-2018 06:18 PM

Fire Bob Sutton.

Bring in a new DC and have him pick who he wants to keep.


Get rid of the Berry and Houston contracts if it makes sense to free up cap space.
Do NOT sign Dee Ford.

Buehler445 10-15-2018 06:26 PM

Agree with Monolith. Especially on the not signing Dee Ford. Unless it is cheap. Like really cheap.

htismaqe 10-15-2018 06:36 PM

Allen Bailey is way overpaid. I'd keep Jones, Hitchens, and Fuller and that's about it outside of the draft picks (Speaks, Nnadi, O'Daniel, etc.)

ping2000 10-15-2018 06:39 PM

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Hoover 10-15-2018 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13821016)
Fire Bob Sutton.

Bring in a new DC and have him pick who he wants to keep.


Get rid of the Berry and Houston contracts if it makes sense to free up cap space.
Do NOT sign Dee Ford.

This.

Get a DC and let him pick the scheme and players he wants to keep.

If it were me, I'd clean house on defense. I'm going to rebuild with the following.

DL: Chris Jones, Nnadi, Xavier Williams
LB: Hitchens, Speaks, KPASS, Neiman, Ragland (Cheap), O'Daniel,
CB: Fuller, T. Smith, C. Ward
S: Lucas (RFA), Murray, Watts

Draft Needs Everywhere on Defense.
Sign FA vets to short term deals at key spots.
Spend some legit money on a vet CB and OLB if it makes sense.

DRM08 10-15-2018 06:41 PM

Throw the bums out.

RunKC 10-15-2018 06:42 PM

Aside from the obvious rookie class.

Chris Jones
Xavier Williams
Anthony Hitchens
Dee Ford-franchise tag is only around $15 million. That’s cheap.
Jordan Lucas
Daniel Sorenson
Tanoh Kpassagnon
Nate Orchard
Orlando Scandrick

Would bring back the following players if they agree to take a paycut:

Eric Berry
Justin Houston
Allen Bailey

Coogs 10-15-2018 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13821059)
This.

Get a DC and let him pick the scheme and players he wants to keep.

If it were me, I'd clean house on defense. I'm going to rebuild with the following.

DL: Chris Jones, Nnadi, Xavier Williams
LB: Hitchens, Speaks, KPASS, Neiman, Ragland (Cheap), O'Daniel,
CB: Fuller, T. Smith, C. Ward
S: Lucas (RFA), Murray, Watts

Draft Needs Everywhere on Defense.
Sign FA vets to short term deals at key spots.
Spend some legit money on a vet CB and OLB if it makes sense.

Move Speaks and KPass to DL, and I am okay with most of all of this.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-15-2018 06:56 PM

I'd resign Ford and just make his pay $500K per sack. I think ALL players should be payed on performance.

kcpasco 10-15-2018 07:03 PM

We already have 2 players eating a ton of cap space and are always injured. No way do I give Ford anything close to big money.

carcosa 10-15-2018 07:10 PM

Patrick Peterson

New World Order 10-15-2018 07:12 PM

They need to tag Ford.

TribalElder 10-15-2018 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 13821113)
We already have 2 players eating a ton of cap space and are always injured. No way do I give Ford anything close to big money.

I wonder how much (Berry + Houston) make vs (the rest of the defense)

kcpasco 10-15-2018 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13821130)
I wonder how much (Berry + Houston) make vs (the rest of the defense)

Those two are 33 million. OUCH

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs/


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