I think it would be infinitely cooler than 7-9 but I imagine they'll be developing movies or a TV series based on the Old Republic.

CGI has gotten to the point where it's somewhat affordable for premium cable TV.

This is AWESOME news.

I cant wait to take my kid to Episode 7.

Darth Bane

****...

YES!!!!!

Bring in Drew Karpyshan to consult, and you have a ****ing WINNER.

Have you ever watched the Plinkett review of Phantom Menace? I've mentioned in it this thread before. I think you'd really appreciate it. He completely dissects the total dumbassery that is Episode I.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/s...hantom-menace/

Some stuff that he doesn't mention:

Only 2 Sith at one time? Always? What the hell is that? Since they were both killed off in ROTJ, I guess there's no more evil in the universe, right?

And why do the Jedi always feel the need to fight 2-on-1? There's a name for that - pussy. That bothered me almost as much as Jar Jar. Almost. :grr:

LMAO

Thanks! I'll check it out when time permits.

Hopefully, a smart writer can negate some of this stuff, especially the Midichlorians, which would be easy: "Midichlorians? That's how the Jedi thought they were connected to the Force. They were wrong, just as they were wrong about the return of the Sith."

Bam, done. Shut the **** up, George Lucas.

Not always. The history has periods were there were armies of Sith as well.

I know I'm old school and it probably wont happen, but I really hope that Disney distances themselves from all the CGI stuff and goes back to more of what made the original movies great and more real. You had a connection with characters like Yoda, Chewbacca and the Ewoks that was thrown out the moment the unveiled the CGI Yoda and other characters.

That, to me, was the biggest fail of the prequels and even the remakes of the originals that Lucas re-released.

Yoda specifically said that there are two - no more, no less.

Yes, it's as dumb as the midachlorians, and needs to be excised.

I personally hope that the new movies are approached in such a manner all of the content from the last three abortions is ignored. Sort of like Highlander 2.

I remember seeing an interview a young George Lucas gave (may be in the Plinkett review) where he specifically says that special effects should NOT overpower the story.

Swear to God.

:shake:

But not armies of Sith lords.

During Yoda's time the Sith were in hiding and had only two members with each successive Master and Apprentice.

Prior to that, they were an Army that was defeated and thought extinct. Only Darth Bane survived, and he instituted the Rule of Two.

Prior to Bane, there were at least three periods that the Sith were large in number and sought to destroy the republic and take over the galaxy.

It's been awhile since I've really delved into the SW universe, so Clay or DCS are prbably more up on this stuff, but I think the Sith originally started off as two and only two, then grew to legion for centuries until Darth Bane came along and wiped out ALL the Sith, and nearly all the Jedi pretty much single handedly.

All that took place roughly 1000 years before Yavin, or roughly the same time Yoda was crawling out of the swamp.

Incorrect.

Bane was a Sith Lord serving with a multitude of Sith Lords out of Korriban during the Rusaan War.

Never read any of the backstory - I'm just going by what was said in the movies.

There you go, frazod.

IMO George got extremely lazy with the prequels. Very disappointing.

Holy shit! Strong is the nerd with you. This...I never knew.

In Sith Rusaa Sith Lord serve YOU

LMAO

This can only be an improvement.

Bane got tired of the Sith army playing political games, he thought it made them weak. So he instituted the rule of two, where a master/apprentice would work together in the shadows to wreck shit.

Star Wars 7 Plot Will Be "an Original Story," Says Lucasfilm Source

First of all, you should know that there is an official canon concerning the Star Wars universe. Those stories cover the years after rebel victory (i.e., after Return of the Jedi). It's written in a series of books called the Thrawn Trilogy, by author Timothy Zahn. Die-hard Star Wars fans know the trilogy well, and they say that a big-screen adaptation of the first book, Heir to the Empire, would make the most logical Episode 7.

"Of all the speculation out there about the content of this new trilogy, that's the single most concrete idea," says Eric Geller of the fan site TheForce.net. "It's almost inevitable that the story will take place in the same time frame as those books."

So what happens in "those books?"

Well, Luke Skywalker meets a real would-be assassin lady named Mara Jade, who was trained to avenge the Emperor by crushing Luke's pretty blond head. Instead, Jade falls for Luke and, a subsequent graphic novel, the two marry. Skywalker also has to deal with the fact that he's the only Jedi left, at least, for now, and he goes about trying to fix that.
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Princess Leia and Han Solo also play heavily into the Thrawn Trilogy, popping out a pair of twins (of course) among other things. As for the name Thrawn, well, that refers to a grand admiral with imperial sympathies who takes over as the leader of the vanquished enemy faction.

So is that the basis for Episode 7 or not? I've heard directly from LucasFilm and other sources close to the picture, and they say: Definitely not.

"It's an original story," a LucasFilm source tells me.
In other words, forget the Star Wars novels. Forget the graphic novels. Forget everything you think you know about what happens to Luke Skywalker. According to my sources, Episode 7 will literally be nothing you've ever seen or read before from the Star Wars universe.
I also hear from several sources that, no matter what you may hear to the contrary, no director has been officially attached to the project.
Meanwhile, there isn't much news regarding the other big Star Wars projects currently in development.

A spoofy cartoon TV series, Detours, was announced in August, spearheaded by Seth Green and the other creators of Robot Chicken. No release dates or networks were revealed, but Disney has said that it envisions some sort of Star Wars presence on its Disney XD channel. I wouldn't be surprised if Detours landed there.
Disney is paying how much for LucasFilm!?!?

Lastly, there's the live action series, which has been bubbling around since 2008 and which is supposed to take place between Episodes 3 and 4, when Luke Skywalker is growing up.

As I reported earlier, Lucasfilm was still talking in enthusiastic terms about Star Wars: Underworld less than a year ago. At that time, the show had a lot of scripts in the can but no financing. But if there's one thing that Disney has, it's money. Still, insiders tell me it's too soon to expect any announcements on either series.

New actors absolutely need to be cast.

It worked for Star Trek, it can work for Star Wars.

Yeah, I figured it would be a given.

Who would be good replacements?

Yesterday:

:D

No idea who they'd cast. DiCaprio really wanted the part of Anakin but he also wanted creative input, so we were stuck with Christensen.

I just hope it's not a bunch of ****ing Disney kids like Selena Gomez.

Not really, Dude. I'm not really "into" anything nerdy although I liked A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back as a kid but hated Return of the Jedi.

I first came to Hollywood alone and when walking around on the weekends, noticed newsstands everywhere. I just happened to stumble upon the first Zahn/Thrawn book in 1993 and purchased it. I've read that trilogy and his follow up dualities since but I could never get into the other authors much.

I assume creative input = read the script and said "Holy shit, this is terrible."

I'm not even sure it got that far. All I can recall is that DiCaprio spent a weekend at Skywalker Ranch and once Lucas denied any input whatsoever from DiCaprio, he was out.

Outside of the scenes with Jango and Obi Wan, AOTC is unwatchable for me.

I once made up my mind that I was going to read every SW story in chronological order. Not a chance. Some stories were pretty decent, others were just bad bad.

I'd recommend the Thrawn saga to anyone who ever even just kind of had a liking for Star Wars. Good stuff. I've also read that the Rogue Squadron stories are pretty good....

Lol, I can actually see that happening.

I seriously grimmaced every time Padme and Anakin had a romantic scene. It was that awful.

Even the Jedi free for all on Geonosis couldn't save that film.

Just to be fair, the scene where Anakin finds his mom and he starts slipping to the dark side was good. Needed way more of that.

One of the best parts of the Plinkett thing is footage of Lucas brainstorming (if you can even call it that) with his various sycophants and underlings. They laugh at his stupid jokes and agree with everything he says, but the pained looks on their faces really say it all - they know he's out of his ****ing mind, but won't argue with him because they like getting paid. I guess Leo wanted no part of that crap.

Well, it would need to be older actors. 35+ IMO.

Here are some off the top of my head picks:

Luke - Sam Worthington

http://img2-2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic...0213/sam_l.jpg

Han - Jon Hamm

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SgTf7swAhZ.../john_hamm.jpg

Leia - Amy Adams

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5268/...5b2802e878.jpg


It's too bad Patricia Heaton is 54 ****ing years old because 10 years ago she would have killed as an aging, yet fiesty Princess Leia. She's certainly short enough, at 5-2. Carrie Fisher was about 5-1.

http://image.funscrape.com/images/p/...aton_27833.jpg

With Hamill, Ford and Fisher still alive, Disney would face an enormous backlash if 7-9 re-cast them as actors.

I could see them re-cast in 2020 and beyond, but with the scrutiny and negative reviews that Episodes 1-3 received, Disney will need to hit a home run with 7-9 or face massive brand failure.

The only way I can see them proceeding with Luke, Leia and Han's characters in the short term would be through animation and voice actors and even then, it would probably be restricted to television.

Yeah, that was pretty awful, too. It looked like a bunch of extras super-imposed on the image of Geonosis, which itself, was cheesy looking, IMO.

Off the top of my head, I'd go with Matt Damon, Daniel Craig and Teri Hatcher.

Do you really think so? I mean, Hamill and Fisher have not aged well (at all) and Ford is 70. Unless they're just sitting around Jedi Council style, how the hell would you pull it off?

Hamill

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/M...UOAgbCXtEl.jpg

Fisher

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/ori...3q6o7dwwd6.jpg

Ford

http://topnews.in/light/files/Harrison-Ford_5.jpg

I mean, seriously.....

Teri Hatcher would be a terrible choice. She's almost 50, and really not a very good actress at all, IMO.

Matt Damon could nail Luke Skywalker, but I'm not sure I like having such a HUGE NAME attached in such a lead role. It would be weird.

LMAO

Can we cast them all as Sith Lords?

It's not like Carrie Fisher won a crate full of Oscars....

Hatcher was just the first older hot brown-eyed brunette I thought of.

Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't think 7-9 will include those characters.

I think they'll do the Thrawn series or future movies with those characters in a new saga when it's more "acceptable" to re-cast.

Why is re-casting Luke Skywalker so much more horrendous than re-casting Captain Kirk?

The last time Mark Hamill played Luke was 1983.

Shatner was reprising his role as Kirk all the way through the early 90s.

Disney should just ****ing do it.

Yeah but, like Dane said, backlash.

If you cast some awful actor in any of these roles and they do a shit job, it's not gonna look good.

If you get a real actor in there who can nail a role, make it their own and ape the original actor's performance somewhat, home run.

I think it will be fine to re-cast, just not for this particular series of 1-9.

Outside of that, sure.

I think it would be weird, continuity-wise, to have Luke played by Hamill in Episode 6 and played by Ryan Gosling or whomever in Episode 7.

I still don't see the problem with recasting. IMO, if James T. Kirk can be recast, Luke Skywalker can be recast.

It's not like Mark Hamill is in any kind of shape to take that up again anyway.

I just don't see the point of an Episode 7 without the Skywalkers in it.

What would they even make the story about?

I guess a Boba Fett/Jabba/Galatic Underworld movie would be cool, but that's supposed to be the setting for the TV show.

there were rumors of it being 1000 years in the future with no connection to the Skywalker storyline.

See, **** it.

I want to see more Luke Skywalker adventures.

Maybe the bastard can turn to the darkside, like he did in Dark Empire. How cool would that be?

http://media.indiedb.com/images/grou...Luke-dark1.jpg

Again, I think Disney will be cool at some point with re-casting the characters from the original series and sending them off on new adventures.

But just as it wouldn't make sense to have a different Batman for each of Chris Nolan's Dark Knight, it doesn't make sense to have different Han, Leia or Luke for Episode 7-9.

If that's the road they're heading, they'd be better off with a stand alone trilogy and not a continuation. But then again, Disney has been known to **** shit up (John Carter of Mars), so who really knows.

All I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense thematically and would be a tough sell as a continuation of the original series.

TRAINING MONTAGE!

Only instead of running up steps and punching things, he's lightsaber sparring and trying to make things float with his mind.

Mark is only 61.

If he got his ass off the couch he could have a cameo as geriatric master Skywalker. :D

Take it FWIW:

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture...s/%28page%29/2

While some fan sites speculated that the new movies would be based on stories already tackled in the novels written about the “Star Wars” universe after “Return of the Jedi,” E! News said a Lucasfilm source told them that the plotline of the new movies would be “original.” E! writer Leslie Gornstein writes that according to her source, the new films “will literally be nothing you've ever seen or read before from the Star Wars universe.”

So, one would assume, that means no Luke. No Han Solo. No Princess Leia. No Mara Jade (the assassin Luke falls in love with and marries in the novels, in case you were wondering). It sounds like it would be all-new characters, an all-new plotline.

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If this report true, I don't understand why Disney would call it Episode 7-9. It should be a new trilogy with its own name, like Star Wars: The New Empire, or whatever.

If they will release Star Wars VII, I will take back everything bad I have to say about this. I do withhold my right to say it sucks later.

Sounds like they're being too ambitious.

Holy crap, what a horrible painting.

Did the dark side make an arm grow out of Luke's lower rib cage? LMAO

A common side effect of hatred.

He's leaning forward, dude.

Stop hating on Dark Empire covers. Most badass EU ever.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/st...empire/5-1.jpg

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/st...empire/6-1.jpg

He can't act.

"I'm going into Toshi station to pick up some power converters......"

So apparently, 7, 8 & 9 weren't a secret to Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/3...de-vii-disney/

So you met with George this past summer and he told you about his plans to make another trilogy?

Yeah, last August, he asked Carrie and I to have lunch with him and we did. I thought he was going to talk about either his retirement or the Star Wars TV series that I’ve heard about — which I don’t think we were going to be involved in anyway, because that takes place between the prequels and the ones we were in and, if Luke were in them, he’d be anywhere from a toddler to a teenager so they’d get an age-appropriate actor — or the 3-D releases. So when he said, “We decided we’re going to do Episodes VII, VIII, and IX,” I was just gobsmacked. “What? Are you nuts?!” [Laughs] I can see both sides of it. Because in a way, there was a beginning, a middle, and an end and we all lived happily ever after and that’s the way it should be — and it’s great that people have fond memories, if they do have fond memories. But on the other hand, there’s this ravenous desire on the part of the true believers to have more and more and more material. It’s one of those things: people either just don’t care for it or are passionate about it. I guess that defines what cult movies are all about. We’ll see. I’m anxious to know what’s going on, but the main story [yesterday] was the sale to Disney. I have mixed feelings about that, but they haven’t done badly by Marvel and the Muppets and Pixar. It’s one of those big decisions that at first seems unusual but then the more you look at it, the more it makes sense.

When you had lunch with George, did he get into any details with you about where the story would go in the next three films, or whether you would have a part in them?

Well, no, he was just talking about writers and the fact that he wouldn’t be directing. I guess he wanted us to know before everybody else knew. He said, “Now you can’t tell anybody!” [Laughs] Even now I’m nervous about saying anything. I just don’t know!

His voice acting career has been very successful

It's amusing that Harrison Ford didn't come to lunch.

He hates Star Wars. LMAO

Kyle Katarn saga..

And they could just make up the next trilogy with Skywalker as master..

God, that would kick so much ass.

Apart from this bit...

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../27/Desann.jpg

I actually think the original Jedi Knight game could be turned into a kick ass movie, or maybe even trilogy.

Jerec was a very cool villain.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...rec-stance.jpg

http://www.movieweb.com/news/luke-sk...he-new-trilogy

The news about Luke Skywalker appearing in this new trilogy as a 40 year old man comes from George Lucas biographer Dale Pollock, who was allowed to read the treatments from Episode 7 through Episode 12 while working with Lucas. In speaking with The Wrap, he spilled a bit about what he knows.

"It was originally a 12-part saga. The three most exciting stories were 7, 8 and 9. They had propulsive action, really interesting new worlds, new characters. I remember thinking, 'I want to see these 3 movies."


The writer, who had a falling out with George Lucas some years ago, is not able to say much more about the overall story of this proposed treatment that the creator of the franchise has been working on. He did mention that it revolves around Luke's later-in-life exploits, and that the Disney deal includes these 12 chapters in the Star Wars saga.

"They will need an older Luke Skywalker. [The new] Writers will absolutely take his outline. That's in part what Disney bought."

I don't know. I guess the writing wouldn't be bad, but I don't want Lucas having any hand in their productions.

Are you kidding? He killed it as the animated Joker.

Also: Lucas writes some of the shittiest dialog known to man.

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is that true or just a myth? Ford owes his career to Lucas. American Graffetti, Star Wars and Indy.

I really enjoyed the Republic Commando books, most were written by Karen Traviss. The Rogue Squadron series was also very entertaining.

Saw this on facebook :D

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...38927051_n.jpg

Well, this is a drag for those people wanting Blu-Ray editions of the original, unedited films.

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Fox Still Owns The Original "Star Wars"

Ready for the first wrinkle in the Disney-Lucasfilm deal?

While Disney will own and release future films in the "Star Wars" series, the deal does NOT include the distribution rights to the pre-existing "Star Wars" films.

Those rights remain with 20th Century Fox. In fact, Fox owns distribution rights to the original 1977 "Star Wars" film in perpetuity in all media worldwide.

It also has theatrical, nontheatrical and home video rights worldwide to the other five films in the series through May 2020.

This means Disney can't issue a 'complete saga' set unless a deal with Fox is made. It also means fan hopes for quality Blu-ray editions of the theatrical cuts of the original trilogy are highly unlikely.

Fox also plans to still re-release the 3D versions of "Attack of the Clones" and "Revenge of the Sith" next Fall.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-tie-up-384541

Very true. Star Wars embarrasses him. He thinks he's too good for it.

Meh.....no biggie to me. I actually like some of the updated effects and appreciate no matte lines on ships.

I wish they would cut the Greedo shoots first and Han/Jabba scene in Star Wars though, but i can live with it.

more than likely Disney turns it into a commercialized pile of shit, but Lucas wasn't doing anything with it so i guess it can't be any worse.

Seems like Lucas pretty much hates the whole franchise

Well, it's also interesting to note that Disney spent $4 BILLION and didn't even get the first six episodes.

They're really banking on their new productions to be extremely successful.

I'd expect some big name directors for the first few episodes (Speilberg, Brad Bird, Nolan, etc. type guys).

How much more "commercialized" could Star Wars become? That's how Lucas made a majority of his income: Merchandising.

I don't think he hates it at all. He sold it to Disney because he believes it'll keep his legacy alive.

Every single production will say "Based on Characters Created By George Lucas".