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saphojunkie 04-06-2017 11:27 AM

***** Official 2017-2018 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread *****
 
**** the elite 8. Final Four or bust, baby.

Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit

ROSTER:

Spoiler!


UPDATE: Important new dates:



Kansas 2017 Summer Tour - Italy
Spoiler!


NON CON SCHEDULE:

Spoiler!


BIG 12 SCHEDULE:
Spoiler!

Buehler445 04-06-2017 11:39 AM

Bragg has said he's out?

Reerun_KC 04-06-2017 11:43 AM

ESPN phone alert said Bragg be gone...

Reerun_KC 04-06-2017 11:45 AM

Thread needed this...


lawrenceRaider 04-06-2017 02:35 PM

Wish the best for Bragg as he moves on. Had high hopes for him. Hopefully he gets it all together at his next stop and maximizes his talents.

CoMoChief 04-06-2017 03:22 PM

Preston will be much better, dude's a Darrell Arthur clone.

Can a starting 5 of Graham, Vick, Svi, Preston, Oozookiebookie win the Farm League next year?

All I know is Self better have a monster recruiting year for 2018.

Chiefspants 04-06-2017 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12812739)
Preston will be much better, dude's a Darrell Arthur clone.

Can a starting 5 of Graham, Vick, Svi, Preston, Oozookiebookie win the Farm League next year?

All I know is Self better have a monster recruiting year for 2018.

If there was ever a time for Bill to Bail (to the NBA... if there are takers).

It'd be after winning 14 straight, making the Final Four (plz Bill) and having a down year on the horizon.

C3HIEF3S 04-06-2017 04:06 PM

A "fresh start" is exactly what Bragg needs, I agree, but that dude better have a better head on his shoulders wherever he goes.

KCTitus 04-07-2017 05:17 PM

Yay!!! A fresh new KU BB thread for the upcoming season! It smells fresh, like Febreeze fresh...although I miss the 800% crapshoot.

I'm sorry to hear Bragg is heading out...that's 4 missed layups and 4 fouls per game KU is definitely going to miss.

Chiefspants 04-07-2017 08:34 PM

Mason takes the Wooden Award.

I know having a player sweep the player of the year awards doesn't come close to winning a title, but this has given me the best feeling I've had about hoops since 2012.

sedated 04-08-2017 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12812739)
Preston will be much better, dude's a Darrell Arthur clone.

Can a starting 5 of Graham, Vick, Svi, Preston, Oozookiebookie win the Farm League next year?

All I know is Self better have a monster recruiting year for 2018.

Everyone seems to forget about Newman.

bdj23 04-08-2017 09:42 AM

Congratulations to Frank.

C3HIEF3S 04-09-2017 02:36 PM

"Good as gone". Might want to find better sources in the AD.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I would just like to announce to all my family, friends, &amp; fans that I&#39;m coming back to school for my senior Yr ������ <a href="https://t.co/oMJDShkSJ5">pic.twitter.com/oMJDShkSJ5</a></p>&mdash; Devonte&#39; Graham (@Devonte_Graham4) <a href="https://twitter.com/Devonte_Graham4/status/851169854447120384">April 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Chiefspants 04-09-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12816694)
"Good as gone". Might want to find better sources in the AD.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I would just like to announce to all my family, friends, &amp; fans that I&#39;m coming back to school for my senior Yr ������ <a href="https://t.co/oMJDShkSJ5">pic.twitter.com/oMJDShkSJ5</a></p>&mdash; Devonte&#39; Graham (@Devonte_Graham4) <a href="https://twitter.com/Devonte_Graham4/status/851169854447120384">April 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Huge

O.city 04-09-2017 02:48 PM

Who said he was gone?

Buehler445 04-09-2017 02:53 PM

Big deal. That's huge for KU

SAUTO 04-09-2017 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12816709)
Who said he was gone?

Multiple people in this thread

Reerun_KC 04-09-2017 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12816771)
Multiple people in this thread

Wrong thread.....

SAUTO 04-09-2017 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12816782)
Wrong thread.....

Ok different thread

PHOG 04-09-2017 03:40 PM

Great

Mr_Tomahawk 04-09-2017 06:02 PM

Going to have a fun squad to watch next year.


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BWillie 04-09-2017 11:55 PM

yeah it looks like the tide started to turn at some point. Apparently a lot of KU fans talked to momma Graham at the NCAA regional or something and told them as much. but earlier in the year and at the start of the season ppl were saying he had informed the AD and team of his likely decision for senior year. seeing frank masons improvement and domination this yr surely helped

shitgoose 04-10-2017 11:03 AM

Dedric and KJ Lawson transferring to KU from Memphis

DanBecky 04-10-2017 11:06 AM

Depth for days

Reerun_KC 04-10-2017 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBecky (Post 12817546)
Depth for days

Which this previous year we didnt have and it finally caught up to us in the EE...

Pablo 04-10-2017 11:14 AM

Two younger brothers in the mix behind these guys. One is Top 25 for 2019, other Top 10 for 2021.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...ing-to-kansas/

Buehler445 04-10-2017 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose (Post 12817544)
Dedric and KJ Lawson transferring to KU from Memphis

So they'll sit for 17-18 and then be juniors?


Looked up their stats. They seem decent, not great.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-10-2017 11:53 AM

These two are outstanding pickups. Best case scenario we get the 4 brothers and their cousin. What a haul that would be.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-10-2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12817558)
So they'll sit for 17-18 and then be juniors?


Looked up their stats. They seem decent, not great.

19 and 10 isn't great? When is the last time we had a guy average that? Been a while.

saphojunkie 04-10-2017 12:07 PM

Dedric will have two years left.

KJ will have three, as he was granted a medical redshirt his freshman year.

HUGE pickup. So much for "down year on the horizon."

saphojunkie 04-10-2017 12:09 PM

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saphojunkie 04-10-2017 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 12817556)
Two younger brothers in the mix behind these guys. One is Top 25 for 2019, other Top 10 for 2021.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...ing-to-kansas/

There's also a cousin. DJ Jeffries - top 10 in 2019.

Sorce 04-10-2017 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12812756)
If there was ever a time for Bill to Bail (to the NBA... if there are takers).

It'd be after winning 14 straight, making the Final Four (plz Bill) and having a down year on the horizon.

:LOL:

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12817610)
Dedric will have two years left.

KJ will have three, as he was granted a medical redshirt his freshman year.

HUGE pickup. So much for "down year on the horizon."


Chiefspants 04-10-2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorce (Post 12817630)
:LOL:

Meanwhile, Kentucky lands the top talent and North Carolina reloads on All Americans to take them back on top, while Bail has to settle for Memphis' leftovers.

PHOG 04-10-2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12817610)
Dedric will have two years left.

KJ will have three, as he was granted a medical redshirt his freshman year.

HUGE pickup. So much for "down year on the horizon."

Very nice! :clap:

Chiefspants 04-10-2017 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 12817556)
Two younger brothers in the mix behind these guys. One is Top 25 for 2019, other Top 10 for 2021.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...ing-to-kansas/

Hail to the king.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...d1a8ddd50.jpeg

Mr. Plow 04-10-2017 03:31 PM

Great news on Graham!

RustShack 04-10-2017 03:49 PM

Congrats on the 4th transfer in a year, after all the shit you've talked about Iowa State picking up transfers.

jimidollar 04-10-2017 03:53 PM

Your mom tranfers.

Pablo 04-10-2017 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12818034)
Congrats on the 4th transfer in a year, after all the shit you've talked about Iowa State picking up transfers.

They're transferring from D1 schools. Not a directional welding school like the Clones prefer.

BWillie 04-10-2017 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12818034)
Congrats on the 4th transfer in a year, after all the shit you've talked about Iowa State picking up transfers.

Yeah, but you guys pick up dumb asses from JUCO who can't read.

Pablo 04-10-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12818148)
Yeah, but you guys pick up dumb asses from JUCO who can't read.

Some of those JUCO turds like Niang and Morris would have been nice bench depth for KU though, to be fair.

Reerun_KC 04-10-2017 04:56 PM

And ISU came into AFH with a group and housed KU this past season...

saphojunkie 04-10-2017 05:04 PM

Uh... who gives a shit if they're transfers? I don't remember ever talking shit about ISU transfers. It was a ****ing great strategy. I love me some KU incoming transfers.

Jeff Graves
Roderick Stewart
Jeff WIthey
Kevin Young
Mario Little
Tarik Black

Bring em all

BWillie 04-10-2017 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12818191)
And ISU came into AFH with a group and housed KU this past season...

Took 18 3-pointers and still almost lost

Reerun_KC 04-10-2017 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12818225)
Took 18 3-pointers and still almost lost

Fools Gold

saphojunkie 04-10-2017 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12817636)
Meanwhile, Kentucky lands the top talent and North Carolina reloads on All Americans to take them back on top, while Bail has to settle for Memphis' leftovers.

They're both top 50 recruits.

Also, Missouri landed the top talent. Kentucky doesn't currently have anyone in the top 10 committed for next year.

UNC's top recruit is #24 on ESPN.

What the **** are you talking about

Chiefspants 04-10-2017 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12818235)
They're both top 50 recruits.

Also, Missouri landed the top talent. Kentucky doesn't currently have anyone in the top 10 committed for next year.

UNC's top recruit is #24 on ESPN.

What the **** are you talking about

Naw dude, Bail has clearly packed it in. Maybe we could kick the tires on Turgeon or The Mayor.

Chief Pagan 04-10-2017 11:23 PM

Bring Larry Brown back.

I'm sure he's good for another title.

saphojunkie 04-11-2017 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12818274)
Naw dude, Bail has clearly packed it in. Maybe we could kick the tires on Turgeon or The Mayor.

Maybe Bill Snyder wants a change of scenery!

sedated 04-12-2017 12:16 PM

Svi to the draft, no agent.

Buehler445 04-12-2017 12:35 PM

Ok. So they can declare for the draft and as long as they withdraw by whatever date and don't hire an agent they can come back. Is that still the rule?

WhawhaWhat 04-12-2017 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12821233)
Ok. So they can declare for the draft and as long as they withdraw by whatever date and don't hire an agent they can come back. Is that still the rule?

5/24 is the deadline to withdraw.

sedated 04-12-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12821233)
Ok. So they can declare for the draft and as long as they withdraw by whatever date and don't hire an agent they can come back. Is that still the rule?

Yes, and I believe the deadline was extended to let them go to the draft combine. I think they can also declare as many times as they want now, not sure why more people don't do it.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-12-2017 09:19 PM

Meh. Devonte would have been a huge loss compared to Svi.

Just lost bench depth


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TambaBerry 04-12-2017 09:21 PM

He'll be back, he's going to test the waters and figure out what the NBA wants him to change. Then he will come back and work on it. I'm not sure he has the foot speed to be an NBA player other then a three point specialist

Buehler445 04-12-2017 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12822016)
He'll be back, he's going to test the waters and figure out what the NBA wants him to change. Then he will come back and work on it. I'm not sure he has the foot speed to be an NBA player other then a three point specialist

His straight line speed is good enough. His lateral quickness is bad. But his defensive instints are just atrocious. He's always late. So he looks slow, he just gets a slow start. Every time. Whether it's on a shot or a drive he's just incredibly late. Every time. If I were him I'd get tired of getting my ass beat and gamble. It wouldn't work but I'd do it. He just can't see it coming.

He's the diametric opposite of a gamer. Like Mason. Or Jackson.

On offense he's a lot better.

RustShack 04-13-2017 12:54 PM

Quote:

Memphis transfer/future Jayhawk KJ Lawson in a Snapchat video: "This what we do when we leave Tubby. F--- Tubby." Such a bad look.
They will fit in well down there!

Mr. Plow 04-13-2017 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12822857)
They will fit in well down there!

This is the year! Or maybe next year.

RustShack 04-13-2017 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12822879)
This is the year! Or maybe next year.

Who knows. We have 4 open scholarships and are in on some big time grad transfers and a few good Jucos. Already have a solid base and three pretty good freshman including a 5 star guard.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-13-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12822886)
Who knows. We have 4 open scholarships and are in on some big time grad transfers and a few good Jucos. Already have a solid base and three pretty good freshman including a 5 star guard.

You're never going to have that year.

RustShack 04-13-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 12822943)
You're never going to have that year.

Define "that year". We've had a good last 6 years.. a few that ended shorter than they could have. I never said we are winning the Championship next year.

Chief Pagan 04-13-2017 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12822016)
He'll be back, he's going to test the waters and figure out what the NBA wants him to change. Then he will come back and work on it. I'm not sure he has the foot speed to be an NBA player other then a three point specialist

I don't know if he is going to be back. I don't think more years of college is going to turn him into a NBA player. Too big of liability on defense.

He might as well go play in Europe and start earning a paycheck. Another year in Lawrence isn't going to translate into a bigger paycheck in Europe.

TLO 04-13-2017 09:27 PM

So KJ Lawson appears to be incredibly stupid

CoMoChief 04-13-2017 11:23 PM

**** Tubby!

royr17 04-17-2017 12:09 PM

It's Official, Josh Jackson declares for the NBA Draft

RustShack 04-17-2017 12:29 PM

What's your scholarship situation right now?

saphojunkie 07-19-2017 10:55 AM

LAWRENCE, Kan. - Fans who cannot make the trip to Italy with the Kansas men's basketball team in early August will nonetheless have the opportunity to watch the Jayhawks play.

KU will play four games while touring Italy, and the Jayhawk IMG Radio Network will broadcast the games. FloSports will pair Brian Hanni andGreg Gurley's radio call with a video stream so KU fans can also watch the games live.

To access the live video coverage and replays of the games, users must sign up to become FloPRO subscribers on FloHoops.com. Monthly and annual FloPRO subscriptions on FloHoops are $20 and $150, respectively. Members get access to all live events and replays, upcoming original documentary content, technique videos and more. Yearly subscribers also gain access to premium content across the FloSports network of sites. Fans can go here to subscribe to the Kansas 2017 Summer Tour - Italy.

The first two contests are in Rome, August 2 and 3; the final two are in Milan, August 5 and 6. The matchups in Rome will tip at 6:30 p.m. local, 11:30 a.m. Central time; the two games in Milan will start at 7 p.m. local, noon Central.

In Rome, the Jayhawks will play Stella Azzurra, a team consisting of 18 and 19 year olds from Rome clubs, on August 2 at Honey Sports City (HSC). The following day, KU will face the Players Group, which consists of a team being organized by Vittorio Gallinari, father of NBA player Danilo Gallinari. The venue for the Aug. 3 game will also be HSC.

On August 5 in Milan, the Jayhawks face the Players Group for the second time at PalaSport Enrico Somaschini (PalaPorada) and Italy All Star A2 the following day in the same location. The Italy All Star A2 squad will consist of players from the Lega Basket Serie (LBA) professional men's basketball league from the A2 level. Tickets can be purchased day of game at the competition venue at a price of 5 euro.

In Rome, KU's sightseeing tours will include the Colosseum, the Vatican Museum, St. Peter's Basilica and the Sistine Chapel. In Milan, the contingent will tour the Cathedral Duomo and take a boat tour of Lake Como. Basketball Travelers Inc. is coordinating the trip.

Preseason top 10, Kansas returns two starters and six letterwinners from last season's 31-5 team (16-2 Big 12) that tied an NCAA record by winning KU's 13th-consecutive conference regular-season title. KU entered the NCAA Tournament a No. 1 seed for the second consecutive year and advanced to the Elite Eight. Senior guards Devonté Graham and Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk are the returning starters; junior guard Lagerald Vick, a regular on last season's team, also returns. Sophomore center Udoka Azubuikestarted six of his 11 games played before being injured last season, and sophomore forwardMitch Lightfoot could also increase his playing time in 2017-18.

KU welcomes nine newcomers to the team with two - sophomore guards Malik Newman and Sam Cunliffe - having already been on campus. Newman transferred to KU from Mississippi State following the 2016-17 season. Cunliffe hit the KU campus following the fall 2016 semester after transferring from Arizona State. Newman will be eligible immediately, while Cunliffe can play in regular-season games after the fall 2017 semester; Cunliffe will play for the Jayhawks in Italy. Freshmen Billy Preston, a McDonald's All-America, and guard Marcus Garrett, the Texas Gatorade Player of the Year, will provide immediate depth for the upcoming season.

Three other Jayhawk transfers will compete in Italy but will sit the KU sidelines in 2017-18. They are California guard Charlie Moore, and Memphis guard/forward brothers Dedric and K.J. Lawson. All had solid seasons in 2016-17 before coming to KU.

Since 2004 Kansas has won 17 of 19 exhibition games outside the United States under head coach Bill Self. The Jayhawks went a combined 7-0 in Canada in 2004 (4-0) and 2008 (3-0). In 2012 KU went 2-2 while touring Switzerland and Paris. KU's most recent trip was in 2015, when the Jayhawks won the gold medal at the World University Games in Gwangju, South Korea, posting an 8-0 record.

Kansas 2017 Summer Tour - Italy
Wednesday, August 2
Kansas vs. Stella Azzurra, HSC (Rome), 6:30 p.m. (11:30 a.m. Central)

Thursday, August 3
Kansas vs. Players Group, HSC (Rome), 6:30 p.m. (11:30 a.m. Central)

Saturday, August 5
Kansas vs. Players Group, PalaSport Enrico Somaschini, 7 p.m. (Noon Central)

Sunday, August 6
Kansas vs. Italy All Star A2, PalaSport Enrico Somaschini, 7 p.m. (Noon Central)

Video stream subscription information - http://bit.ly/2srzfLW

BWillie 07-19-2017 11:14 AM

Next two years are going to be great again! Primed for a #1 seed next year and then we get the Lawson brothers and Charlie Moore. The rich get richer!

Prison Bitch 07-19-2017 01:27 PM

Maybe Bill can make a FF again some year. He's got 2 in 14 years here. Roy has more titles than that. SAD!

KC_Connection 07-19-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12962937)
Maybe Bill can make a FF again some year. He's got 2 in 14 years here. Roy has more titles than that. SAD!

A complete and total failure of a head coach who has proven time and again that he doesn't have what it takes to finish T3 each year. Just utterly incapable of recruiting the kind of top guards that could take us there.

An embarrassment they brought him back for another year.

Chiefspants 07-19-2017 02:20 PM

I don't know what I expected when I opened this thread, but this discussion feels oddly fitting.

CoMoChief 07-19-2017 05:31 PM

KU needs to be dominate inside the paint again, they've sorely lacked a true dominating presence since Withey/Embiid. Ellis was soft and played little defense even though he got some good pts on the offensive end..though many cases it was quietly done. Hopefully Azebuke or whatever his name is can emerge into a new upcoming star..(and fast). KU is going to need him. KU will be a tall team next year, if Preston starts. Having a lanky 6'10 and 7footer in the paint is going to help controlling the paint, although Preston will probably play high post most of the time, he seems to be custom fit for that role, Arthur/Ellis/ etc. Guards are gonna have to step up big. Losing Mason is huge. Graham can't do it alone and even he can be streaky. Vick and Svi are going to have to step up huge this next season. Can they be counted on to score and be efficient on offense? Lots of questions for this KU team, but they have the potential to be really good if the right players can make contribute and improve.

Kiimo 07-19-2017 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12963036)
A complete and total failure of a head coach who has proven time and again that he doesn't have what it takes to finish T3 each year. Just utterly incapable of recruiting the kind of top guards that could take us there.

An embarrassment they brought him back for another year.

There's only one embarrassment going on here

KC_Connection 07-19-2017 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 12963295)
There's only one embarrassment going on here

Agreed. A program with as storied a history as KU should not be lowering itself like this.

sedated 07-19-2017 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12963239)
KU needs to be dominate inside the paint again, they've sorely lacked a true dominating presence since Withey/Embiid.

KU has gotten something like 7 total minutes in the NCAA tournament from their (top 10 in the country) big-man recruits in 4 straight years.

Embiid - back/foot
Alexander - mom got greedy
Diallo - raw to the point of being worthless
Doke - wrist

That leaves you with 4-year/undersized/headed to Europe guys like Perry Ellis and Jamari Traylor dealing with NBA bigs.

Any of those years (esp last year) would have been very different if not for that.

BWillie 07-19-2017 10:05 PM

Jack Whitman is quitting school and basketball. Before a free trip to italy. Just yesterday Marvin Bagley indicated he is probably going to reclassify to 2017 class. Hmmmm coinkydink?

Mr. Plow 07-20-2017 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12963974)
Jack Whitman is quitting school and basketball. Before a free trip to italy. Just yesterday Marvin Bagley indicated he is probably going to reclassify to 2017 class. Hmmmm coinkydink?

I'm so far out of college recruiting I have no idea who either of those kids are.

BWillie 07-20-2017 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12963343)
Agreed. A program with as storied a history as KU should not be lowering itself like this.

Kc connection. Committed to the troll game.

T-post Tom 07-20-2017 05:38 PM

Another year, another Big 12 championship.


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