Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12830747)

Peterman would be a fantastic #2. I'd draft him in the 3rd if available just for that. I don't see a franchise guy though. High floor/low ceiling. He'd be a great mop-up guy behind a struggling #1 or someone who could keep you afloat if an injury situation occurs. I agree that if you surround him with talent he could be effective, but not necessarily dynamic.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12830735)

He's young... cheap contract.. has a strong arm.. and isn't a pussy.

That is the true answer. Doesn't mean he will end up being successful... but it's what the people want. Can't say I don't understand it... but for me, winning seasons feel pretty good. I like them. Even if they come up short.

I'd go with a QB like Nate Peterman, and hope to keep a strong team around him. ( and healthy, FFS!!!!! )

whereas others are fine going 2-14 every year, so long as they are swinging wildly for homeruns.

I can appreciate that different viewpoint also... but 2-14 seasons are miserable.

I'll settle for enjoying the 4-ish month party.. having my slice of cake.. and wacking off at the end of the night. More enjoyable than screaming for the whole cake, throwing an embarrassing tantrum.. and then getting punched in the face by the hot girl that won't spread em for me anyway. :p

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12830716)

Where is the upside with Mahommes? I don't see it. When you guys watch him, do you think about how some of those throws would go in the NFL? I haven't seen one game where there is more good than bad pertaining to him. So what if has a big arm and can make some great throws? So could Billy Joe Tolliver... His vision is bad, his mechanics are bad, his accuracy is bad, his ability to go through progressions is bad, his fundamentals are terrible, and he doesn't take snaps under center. How can he possibly have the highest ceiling???? He will require his own QB coach and that won't be enough. He's a flash in the pan. He's no Dak Prescott. Dak was clutch at Miss. State. He had some huge wins. Mahommes is nothing like Dak.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12831877)

I do find it amazingly coincidental that every Alex fan can not see a first round prospect in this draft.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12831897)

I have viewed Mitch Trubisky as a 1st rd talent for months.. and even selected him in two different GM mocks for the Chiefs in rd 1.. one of which, I traded up for him.

So really... take the conspiracy theory, and shove it straight up your old, constipated ass.

Oh, and have a fine day, sir.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12831898)

First round potential. Here you go:
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12831920)

Yeah sure.

And what the hell is your definition of a conspiracy?

It's not like I think any of you dumbasses are smart enough to come to a meeting of the minds.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12827386)

WCO QB

Smart
Timing
Precision
Consistency

The weakest part of Mahomes' game

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12830716)

Where is the upside with Mahommes? I don't see it. When you guys watch him, do you think about how some of those throws would go in the NFL? I haven't seen one game where there is more good than bad pertaining to him. So what if has a big arm and can make some great throws? So could Billy Joe Tolliver... His vision is bad, his mechanics are bad, his accuracy is bad, his ability to go through progressions is bad, his fundamentals are terrible, and he doesn't take snaps under center. How can he possibly have the highest ceiling???? He will require his own QB coach and that won't be enough. He's a flash in the pan. He's no Dak Prescott. Dak was clutch at Miss. State. He had some huge wins. Mahommes is nothing like Dak.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12822182)

Mahomes has the same inconsistency and accuracy issues, just that they were masked by the offense he was in. Is anyone saying Mahomes has good accuracy?

And on the flip side Mahomes has no experience running a pro style offense, and has far worse mechanics.

So currently he's better because he's more mobile and is more mature.
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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13829675)

Jesus. These takes...

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12820697)

I just don't see what the difference between Mahomes and Bray is in terms of talent. I get that Mahomes had much better stats but that's only because he was in an air raid offense versus the worst defensive conference in college football whereas Bray played in the SEC.
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12820777)

Umm ones gonna be a 1st round pick, while the other was an UDFA. They're not even in the same stratosphere as prospects.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12821445)

Ok tell me how they're different in terms of ability. Mahomes is more athletic, I'll give you that. What else?
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12821590)

Exactly. He's also completely ignoring intangibles/character.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12821842)

Well yeah and that's literally all anyone talks about when they talk about Mahomes. It's not like they talk about his accuracy or good decision making.

So how is that different from Bray?
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12821848)

And you're ignoring that Bray had pro style elements in his offense and Mahomes played in the air raid offense against the worst defenses in college football.
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12821922)

You're the only person in the world that believes Mahomes is equal to Bray as a prospect.

1st round pick vs. UDFA. This isn't hard to understand.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12821973)

So tell me what makes Mahomes 7 rounds better than Bray.
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12822057)

That pretty much sums it all up. I'll add one. Mahomes doesn't have a douchy tattoo of his last name on his ****ing back.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12822182)

Mahomes has the same inconsistency and accuracy issues, just that they were masked by the offense he was in. Is anyone saying Mahomes has good accuracy?

And on the flip side Mahomes has no experience running a pro style offense, and has far worse mechanics.

So currently he's better because he's more mobile and is more mature.
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