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O.city 03-13-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12781931)
You don't need good mechanics or fundamentals to beat shitty teams with shitty players. There have been a bunch of QBs in air raid systems that dominated and had similar stats to him, what separates him from them?
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Arm strength and natural ability would be what I'd imagine they'd say about his projection to the next level.

I personally have no real qualms about drafting any of these QB's at this point. I doubt the Chiefs take one.

Chief Northman 03-13-2017 09:48 PM

I'm telling you, these qbs are going to drop like stones this draft.

Every front office is eyeing 2018 for qbotf....

Too much defensive and offensive skill position talent atop this draft.

OldSchool 03-14-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12781920)
If his footwork is that big of an issue though, he shouldn't be able to be accurate in any offense, correct?

I'm just not a fan of Kizer. At all. He looks like he should be "the guy" but he just hasn't ever really shown it.

So Kizer=Geno Smith?

Quesadilla Joe 03-14-2017 01:53 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you like Pitt QB Nate peterman- you need to check out penn QB torgerson..similar size and physical traits..very solid pro day- no combine</p>&mdash; Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeMayock/status/841738922178822144">March 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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kccrow 03-14-2017 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12782893)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you like Pitt QB Nate peterman- you need to check out penn QB torgerson..similar size and physical traits..very solid pro day- no combine</p>&mdash; Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeMayock/status/841738922178822144">March 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Is Mike slipping? He doesn't read the field nowhere near as well as Peterman and he's not as accurate underneath.

kccrow 03-14-2017 03:21 PM

BTW... FWIW, I happen to like Kyle Sloter out of Northern Colorado a whole bunch. I know its a huge step in competition, but I think the kid deserves a flier late. Climbs the pocket, throws the ball on a rope, athletic, can throw on the run, very quick release and nice footwork/motion.

kccrow 03-14-2017 03:49 PM

Took me a while but I did happen across a decent highlight vid of Sloter. So here ya guys go...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HZsVsskA8ak" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

chiefscafan 03-14-2017 06:09 PM

Wow those of you who want Webb and petterman are asking for smith, Bray, hogan Muarry . Ok QBs but none that can win you ball games by themselves I'm all in on Kizer , Mahomes, or Watson

DJ's left nut 03-14-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12781479)
I'd like to squeeze some ****ing money out of it Mr Costello

Glad somebody caught it...

maninthemiddle 03-14-2017 11:42 PM

Watson is the QB I want. I don't think he makes it past the Texans though. The Raiders have the pick right before Houston and they're not a realistic trade partner. The New York Giants at 23 hold a pick worth 760 points according to the trade value chart. KC could package their first and their compensatory 3rd round pick and come up with 766 points. That would be pretty cool if he slipped to 23. Letting Sean Smith walk would have essentially bought us Deshaun Watson.

OldSchool 03-15-2017 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by maninthemiddle (Post 12783938)
Watson is the QB I want. I don't think he makes it past the Texans though. The Raiders have the pick right before Houston and they're not a realistic trade partner. The New York Giants at 23 hold a pick worth 760 points according to the trade value chart. KC could package their first and their compensatory 3rd round pick and come up with 766 points. That would be pretty cool if he slipped to 23. Letting Sean Smith walk would have essentially bought us Deshaun Watson.

Idk, something about Watson's final year makes me not really want to touch him in the 1st. Yeah they won the ship, but I think he might be a case of great college QB, mediocre pro QB.

RunKC 03-15-2017 12:19 PM

BJ Kissel

ESPN's @McShay13 says Tennessee's Josh Dobbs and Pitt's Nate Peterman are the most underrated QBs in this draft. Says both could be steals.

We all know it's one of these 2 in rd 3. It's gonna happen

raybec 4 03-15-2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12784371)
BJ Kissel

ESPN's @McShay13 says Tennessee's Josh Dobbs and Pitt's Nate Peterman are the most underrated QBs in this draft. Says both could be steals.

We all know it's one of these 2 in rd 3. It's gonna happen

Dobbs is pretty underrated, but I wouldn't want to hang my hopes on the guy.

maninthemiddle 03-15-2017 05:11 PM

Alek Torgersen

As much as I love Deshaun Watson, if KC passed on a QB in the first couple rounds, this is the guy I want as a developmental prospect. Chiefs were in attendance for his pro day.

Here is the url for the video of his pro day reps (I don't have link privileges as a newb to the forum -- if someone else wanted to embed, by all means..) >>

youtu(dot)be/VBKR_AxGPOo

I love his footwork and accuracy (granted its against air). He also looked very good in the East-West Shrine game.

SAGA45 03-15-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12779351)
Josh Rosen was a Freshman this year. He didn't technically red-shirt in 2015, he merely early-enrolled in classes (Jan) and played spring ball. He has 2016 as his first year of playing. There is far from any guarantee he declares as a Sophomore.

Sam Darnold was a red-shirt Freshman last year. Like Rosen, he has one good year and everyone is claiming to bank for him in 2018. There's no guarantee Darnold declares either. To be quite frank, it's not a regular occurrence that QB's declare before they complete their Junior season.

Luke Falk is your top legitimate prospect, as he'll be red-shirt Senior coming out of Washington State's uptempo offense.

Mason Rudolph is going to be your next top prospect, assuming he continues his ascent coming off his Junior season into his Senior season. He has a solid resume and great arm, but is also coming out of one of those "fancy" spread offenses.

Jake Browning is coming into his true Junior year, so he may be more likely to declare than Rosen or Darnold. We'll have to see what shakes out there and if there's any drop off after his shoulder surgery on his throwing arm following the playoffs this year.

Tanner Magnum, well he's kind of what we have in this draft so far and he's going to be old coming out of BYU. He had a gray-shirt, then 2 years of mission work. He was the back up to Hill, but Hill got hurt and he put up a great year. However, he didn't keep the job for this season, as Hill was again named the starter. Magnum played the season finale and the bowl game after Hill went down again. If he has a great final year, he could see some early round talk, but that's no guarantee. He'll be 24 coming out and would be 25 when the season starts in the NFL.

Baker Mayfield... He kind of reminds me of Chase Daniel, and I'm not so certain he's going to be a top name guy come the draft. Plus, he just hurt the shit out of his stock with his drunk/flee/arrest situation in Arkansas. We'll see there.

Some other notable seniors that will be in the mix

Max Browne (Pitt) - Transfer from USC
Mike White (Western Kentucky)
Quinton Flowers (South Florida)
Jeremiah Briscoe (Sam Houston State)

Other Notable Underclassmen that could declare
Lamar Jackson (Louisville)
Josh Allen (Wyoming)
Nick Fitzgerald (Miss. State)


Overall...Seniors alone...a more impressive class than 2017. Two or more of those underclassmen declare and it blows 2017 out the water, especially if Allen and either Darnold or Rosen declare.

This isn't to say wait til next year though. Dorsey hails from the Ron Wolf school of team building which dictates drafting a QB every year. He will likely draft one this year. But overall, the 2018 class is looking special.


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