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Molitoth 01-07-2018 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 13343453)
Sutton overall isn't horrible and does a decent enough job preparing but the guy struggles at making adjustments which is why he needs to go. Too many times he's been out coached in the second half of games. I don't blame Peters for blowing up on him earlier in the year. He knows it too.

Me either. Bob Sutton is a shithead.

Coach 01-07-2018 05:04 PM

2017 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,952
Rushing Yards Allowed - 1,890
Total Yards Allowed - 5,842

2003 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,363
Rushing Yards Allowed - 2,344
Total Yards Allowed - 5,707

And I want to say that 2017 defense, in my opinion, is far more superior in terms of talent on the defensive side than 2003 was.

jaa1025 01-07-2018 05:05 PM

The D line should have been the strength of the defense but it took a huge step backwards. Houston was used horribly. All the CB's took a step back. Safeties were terrible. The scheme throughout the year was probably one of the worst I've ever seen.

mnchiefsguy 01-07-2018 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13343480)
2017 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,952
Rushing Yards Allowed - 1,890
Total Yards Allowed - 5,842

2003 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,363
Rushing Yards Allowed - 2,344
Total Yards Allowed - 5,707

And I want to say that 2017 defense, in my opinion, is far more superior in terms of talent on the defensive side than 2003 was.

Holy ****ing shit, that is bad.

Molitoth 01-07-2018 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 13343453)
Sutton overall isn't horrible and does a decent enough job preparing but the guy struggles at making adjustments which is why he needs to go. Too many times he's been out coached in the second half of games. I don't blame Peters for blowing up on him earlier in the year. He knows it too.

Everyone of us at home have been screaming at Bob Shithead Sutton all season, but when Marcus Peters did it, he got labeled a "thug".

Fish 01-07-2018 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13343480)
2017 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,952
Rushing Yards Allowed - 1,890
Total Yards Allowed - 5,842

2003 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,363
Rushing Yards Allowed - 2,344
Total Yards Allowed - 5,707

And I want to say that 2017 defense, in my opinion, is far more superior in terms of talent on the defensive side than 2003 was.

****ing yikes!

FloridaMan88 01-07-2018 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13343480)
2017 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,952
Rushing Yards Allowed - 1,890
Total Yards Allowed - 5,842

2003 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,363
Rushing Yards Allowed - 2,344
Total Yards Allowed - 5,707

And I want to say that 2017 defense, in my opinion, is far more superior in terms of talent on the defensive side than 2003 was.

The #1 CB on the 2003 defense = Eric Warfield; #1 CB on the 2017 defense = Marcus Peters. Enough said.

The Sutton Apologists (whose mere presence just confirms that there are dumbshits out there who will apologize for anything/anyone) should take note of that comparison to Greg Robinson’s epic fail defense.

Donger 01-07-2018 05:13 PM

It was the Chiefs' sixth straight home playoff loss, a NFL record.

Ugh. Jesus.

Bewbies 01-07-2018 05:14 PM

Completely agree with Mellinger.

And the 2003 v 2017 stat holy shit how does Sutton have a job?

Pasta Little Brioni 01-07-2018 05:15 PM

The 03 defense didn't fall apart till the 2nd half of the season

Why Not? 01-07-2018 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13343387)
KC needs writers who aren't afraid of being denied access to the team. This team desperately needs a Whitlock to help hold them accountable.

This article is the closest we've seen to a Whitlock call out since he left.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-07-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13343480)
2017 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,952
Rushing Yards Allowed - 1,890
Total Yards Allowed - 5,842

2003 Chiefs Defense Totals
Passing Yards Allowed - 3,363
Rushing Yards Allowed - 2,344
Total Yards Allowed - 5,707

And I want to say that 2017 defense, in my opinion, is far more superior in terms of talent on the defensive side than 2003 was.


was that the Greg Robinson defense ? I can't remember.

kcpasco 01-07-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13343531)
The 03 defense didn't fall apart till the 2nd half of the season

This. Those stats are a little misleading because when that 03 defense fell apart it was a lot of yards in much fewer games. This defense has just sucked over the course of 17 games played.

Coach 01-07-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13343542)
was that the Greg Robinson defense ? I can't remember.

Yes.

Discuss Thrower 01-07-2018 05:19 PM

Nico Johnson - played six games for KC before winding up in Cinci in 2014; out of the league in 2016.

Sanders Commings - out of the league in 2014.

Mike Catapano - played 15 games in 2013 before disappearing in 2014 because of GRID; became a Jet in 2015 and didn't play a down in 2017.

Dee Ford - was R-Kal Truluck 2: Electric Boogaloo until he got double digit sacks last season; didn't play more than half the season this year because of injuries

Philip Gaines- if he's not getting toasted in coverage he's drawing penalties

Marcus Peters - boom or bust hot head that makes Deion Sanders blush with pride with the amount of business decisions he makes in open field tackling situations.

Steve Nelson - so far a JAG rotational guy.

Ramik Wilson - JAG rotational guy, so far.

DJ Alexander - special teamer guy in KC and traded to Seattle this year.

Nunez-Roches - missed the playoff game last night with injury, starter.

Chris Jones - most promising young player in this list after Peters, starter.

KeiVarae Russel - cut before the 2016 season and winds up in Cincinnati; JAG guy with the Bengals.

Eric Murray - jury's out, but looks like a rotational / depth guy so far.

DJ White - played 11 games in KC last season; waiver pick by the Colts this year and played in 2 games.

Dadi Nicholas - preseason hype but injured.

K-pas, Eligwe and McQuay are rookies, so not a lot can be said about them.


There's four guys in the above list that have shown at least starter-caliber play. Four.


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