Red Light Camera Violation
Has anyone here ever tried to contest a red light camera violation? Any luck?
Just got one in the mail yesterday, and I remember when it happened. I was rolling up in the right-hand turn lane and the light was green. There was a wet patch (possibly slick) just past the line, so I slowed down and continued with the turn. But when I looked up the light had changed to red and I saw the flash. I didn't even see the yellow light because I had my eye on the possibly icy patch. It seems like they shorten the length of yellow lights at those intersections so that they can nab more people. Anyway, it's not that big of a deal. I was just wondering if there's a chance of it getting thrown out if I show up to court and explain the circumstances. |
You were turning right? You wont get a ticket. It can't tell if you stopped or not, it only took the picture because you were in the intersection.
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Oh, never mind, you already got a ticket. Just say you stopped and turned right. They only have a picture of you in the intersection, they don't know if you stopped or not.
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Oh, they have video now? Pay the ticket.
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These are only fines.
It's not an actual moving violation that goes on your record. That is how they are in Ohio. My sister got one in the Dayton area 2 years ago. She failed to pay it and got a notice from a collection agency. No record of this with the courts. |
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They can't issue an actual citation if they can't prove who was driving the car. The cameras where my sister was caught are set to photograph the plates. |
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California stop. Pay up
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Pay it before it doubles
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So I'll take my lumps and pay the fine. It mentions that it's "an ordinance violation and no points will be assessed", so at least I don't have to worry about that. |
Find out how long the light should be for yellow. There are a lot of lights not timed properly. See if it is within the time. The cameras are a farce and just revenue for a 3rd party.
You can also contest and state the road conditons and ic3. |
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These things are scams between the companies that run them and the local governments. The cameras should not be legal to begin with. Then they send them late so you also get charged a late fee and the company will claim they sent it to you before. It is then up to you to prove they did not send it.
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Contest it, they have no way to prove you were driving. Your wife/husband was driving the car and you can not be forced to testify against a spouse. Done deal.
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The last two times I got ticketed "I made a donation to the court" and they waived the ticket and accepted my donation.
It didn't go on my record. They don't let you do it all the time though~ |
pay the ticket and then make sure you stop at the red light from now on.
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What if someone is driving your car? |
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Make no mistake, I am no laywer. This might not be sound legal advice, but it sounds like it has potential. |
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Pretty sure this wouldn't work. But I'm not a laywer, either. |
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These aren't fines...they're city taxes you can't fight.
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take a picture of $100 and mail it in
**** the local revenue generating govt. |
Sorry to hear it was more blatant on the video. A few years ago, I rolled through a red light right in front of an officer. There was freezing rain though, and I told him I decided I'd rather keep going than slide to a stop in the middle of the intersection. He could have also hit me with "driving too fast for conditions" but he was one of the nice ones.
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:banghead: Well played. |
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Or you can buy one of these for the next ripoff redlight camera.
http://shopping.photomaskcover.com/?...FQ-e4AodhzYA-A |
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Mythbusters busted many ways people try to cover their plates. And even if one does work, it's illegal in some states to have them at all and in others you're likely to be ticketed if an officer notices the cover is polarized. |
Pay the gubment what it says. Include some extra, because they know what is best.
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Any ticket should be considered bull shit if a police officer didn't witness it and is willing to testify in a court of law.
In Iowa red light cameras only create revenue. Offenses aren't submitted to your insurance company or show up on your DMV records. Guy at work (raider fan) has received two red light tickets in the past three years and refused to pay either of them. His insurance has not gone up and he's renewed his plates twice. The only thing he hasn't tried to do yet is renew his driver's license so we don't know about that. On a side topic, speed cameras in Iowa are the same thing. Here's an interesting story from the local paper that makes you wonder why anyone pays the fine: Quote:
To me both are bull shit in the first degree and only used to raise money. One other thing, the city of Sioux City didn't buy the speed cameras, instead the company that builds them gave them to the city and is given a cut per ticket. If that isn't a recipe for corruption nothing is. |
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I got a ticket in the mail too. They got me going like 55 in a 35 or something like that. It was on a major street in the middle of Denver and I had just exited the highway and I didn't slow down enough I guess. The thing is the picture was of the entire front of my jeep. So they had my picture (I was wearing some fantastic shades too, looking good) and my license plate, and the make and model of my car. So I was pretty much screwed. I should have taken a picture of the check and mailed that instead of the actual check, that's just a fantastic idea! :p |
I got out of my red light ticket in KCMO about a year ago. The truth was that I actually wasn't driving, but they sent me the ticket because the car was in my name. I was actually out of town and had an airfare and hotel receipt.
I called the prosecutor's office and explained I had this info that I could fax/e-mail them and asked them to drop the charge. They said no, I had to show up at my court date if I wanted to contest it. I go to court and talk to the prosecutor beforehand--showed my receipts. They said I had to fill out a form--which included naming who was actually driving. I said, "I shouldn't have to give someone's name--I wasn't even present at the incident, so I don't have first-hand knowledge anyway. Don't you need to prove it was me driving? I have evidence here showing it couldn't have been me. How can you still press charges?" Prosecutor said he was not allowed to drop red light charges. So I had to wait my turn for the judge. Gave the judge my receipts and he asked who was driving. I said, "I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure." He didn't press me about it and dismissed the charge. So, I didn't have to pay, but it was still a complete pain in the ass, especially considering I didn't actually commit the violation. In principle, I don't necessarily think the cameras are bad, but I do think it is complete BS that they don't have to prove you are the one driving by at least getting your face in the photo. |
My wife and I just went to court for a red light violation. It was not because of a camera but an officer supposedly saw my wife run a red light. I happened to be in the car when this happened, and we were in the intersection when the light turned red. An Independence PD officer in an unmarked turned on the discos and pulled us over and gave us a ticket. When we received the ticket in the mail, we went to the courthouse to contest the ticket, once we got in front of the judge the officer said that he just looked at the video right before he came across the street to the courthouse. The judge granted a continuance for last week, in which the judge requested the officer to bring in the copy of the tape. Once we got in front of the judge the officer again explained what happened and stated that the dash cam footage of the violation had been purged and that he did not have the video evidence. The judge then asked my wife to explain her side of the story in which she did. After about 10 seconds the judge fined us with court cost the fine was $100.00. I in turned asked the judge why did he side with the officer when it is up the accuser to prove if you are guilty after all you are "innocent until proven guilty" the judge said that you could file an appeal. When we asked about the appeal process it would have cost us another $160-$170 to file the appeal in which we could of not "won" our money back. So we just decided to pay the $100 and call it good.
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I am a lawyer. I have had about ten of these dismissed in the last year. They can't make them. However, they fight tooth and nail when a pro se defendant tries to fight them. They quietly dismiss them when a lawyer appears. The problem is they set the fine amount almost perfectly. I need to charge about $100 to make it worth the effort. So the only people that make sense to hire me have like 5 red light tickets or more serious companion charges.
You absolutely cannot ignore them. They will issue warrants. Eventually you could get your license suspended. |
I want to take a baseball bat or hammer and beat the shit out of every Red Light camera ever made.
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Naperville actually removed the damned things. Thank God.
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They just started putting these in here in Jax. I'm kinda glad actually. Here, if you don't run a red light, you're likely to get rear-ended by 3 more cars behind you.
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In Texas they tried to outlaw them.
A cop told me that it's not a moving violation because a cop has to personally write that type of ticket. |
it's nothing more than a revenue stream for local municipalities IMHO. It's understandable why so many towns are trying to use this system because it generates revenue which is a positive, it "may" prevent accidents and it frees up law enforcement to concentrate on other things like bustin' hardened criminals and eat'n deep fried donuts!
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Ignore it. Don't pay.
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is useless without pics. Damn. |
Got one in KCMO about 7 years ago. Never paid it. Nothing has happened.
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