So what do we get for Jonesy?
 

Man, the more I look at the cap numbers and our cache of picks as well as the areas in which we need to improve our talent level...the more I just think we kind of HAVE to tag and trade Jones and let Watkins go as well.

I don't think we get a Khalil Mack haul, but I've seen a mid #2 floated as well. I think that's horseshit.

What do you think we get in a tag-and-trade scenario for Jones?

What (if any) compensation do you think we'd receive for Watkins?

Colts need a 3 technique that can pass rush, maybe their first pick in the second, #34.

I don't think so.


This ain't Dee Ford.

I completely understand that, I'm just having a hard time trying to find a suitable trade partner.

I think a relevant comparison is the tag/trade deal we made with Seattle for Frank Clark. He cost us about 240 points in draft capital, using the Rich Hill chart.

If Jones and Clark get a similar valuation, then I think you can somewhat narrow down likely trading partners.

Based on need, division, draft capital, and salary cap, these teams make sense to me:

Seattle: pick 27 + 2021 third
Detroit: pick 32 + 67
Miami: pick 26 + 2021 third or fourth
Indy: pick 34 + 75

Of course, there are so many possible scenarios it's almost pointless to speculate but I wouldn't be surprised to see any of these. Seattle makes the most sense to me, because they're the closest to contending.

For Watkins, I just don't see a team giving up draft capital for the right to overpay Sammy for one year. The team trading for him will absorb a $14 million cap hit, which is expensive, but not insane. The question for a Sammy trade is whether or not there's a team out there that would prefer to get him on an expensive one-year deal VS getting him on a cheaper long-term deal. He's an elite WR2 with an injury history that is getting cut unless rescued by a trade. That's going to push his value down.

We're not getting anything substantial in a Sammy Watkins trade.

I really want two picks in this draft for Jones. Detroits #35 and #67 would be ideal.

1. You send Jones to the NFC, to a team not named the Seahawks, because I don't want to face him in the Super Bowl either.

2. At #35 you can get his replacement or fill in another major need.

3.AT #67 you can get another nice player whether its a WR or offensive linemen.

Sign me up

I don’t see the Lions wanting to pay money to both Jones and Trey Flowers.

Plus they’re dealing with their own contract issues with Slay.

Interesting question.

Would you trade Chris Jones for Darius Slay?

You’d have to pay Slay, who said he wants to be the highest paid CB, to a new deal. But the highest paid CB is only getting $75 million right now.

No I don’t think this has a .00001% chance of happening....but it’s the offseason.

If you have the money to pay a dude, just pay Jones. This doesn't make any sense to me.

Agreed.

If I’m moving on from Jones, it’s cause I plan on replacing him with 3-4 players.

I haven't seen anyone mention where Jones would actually sign a long term deal. He is from Mississippi. I would assume he would want another chance at a SB.

Am I the only one that thinks Jones stays here and plays on a franchise tag deal for a year? They can structure Mahomes' new contract in a cap friendly manner the first year or two and ensure that Jones at least plays on a tag number. I only say that because I don't think anyone is willing to deal us what Jones is worth, and I don't think Veach is going to allow himself to take it in the shorts with some bullshit 2 and a 5 type of offer....

I’m not even sure what your post means.

Are you saying if he was traded, he wouldn’t want to sign a long term deal because he’d want to become a Chief again?

If so, that’s crazy. He has a chance to set his family up for generations. He signs as soon as it makes sense, Chiefs or elsewhere.

That said, he’s made it known he wants to be a Chief for life.