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KChiefs1 02-14-2019 10:27 PM

This list seems wrong.

Great Expectations 02-14-2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14106701)
Wait? You mean Peters isn't on this list?? But the experts here on CP told me that he was the bestest ever and that we shouldn't have traded him? Shouldn't he be at least in the top 5, if not number 1?

Did you watch the AFCG and the Super Bowl?

BossChief 02-14-2019 10:54 PM

Nelson is a really good slot corner. He’s just not a good outside corner and gets outmatched by better receivers.He doesn’t have deep speed, but is quick, physical and is a good tackler. He’s also the only younger corner hitting free agency that’s any good, so supply and demand will get him 10-12m per when he’s probably only worth 6 or 7 max.

It’s gonna be interesting to see what KC does at CB this offseason. Imo they need to extend Fuller now...and make a move in FA or the draft for a difference making #1 corner.

The real work needs to happen at safety, though. All of our safeties should be jettisoned.

JakeF 02-14-2019 11:25 PM

He was targeted so often because QBs knew they could pick on him.

CoMoChief 02-15-2019 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14107379)
He was targeted so often because QBs knew they could pick on him.

this.

the whole "well he was targeted so many times" argument is ****ing dumb.

well he was targeted for a reason. QB's will always look to exploit weakest link.

and if it works...don't stop til they can prove they can stop it.

BWillie 02-15-2019 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14107462)
this.

the whole "well he was targeted so many times" argument is ****ing dumb.

well he was targeted for a reason. QB's will always look to exploit weakest link.

and if it works...don't stop til they can prove they can stop it.

A little. But when your team sees 60% more passing plays than some teams - you can see why the Chiefs defense and Nelson gave up so many yards.

MahiMike 02-15-2019 07:16 AM

So Nelson > Ramsey?

staylor26 02-15-2019 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14107379)
He was targeted so often because QBs knew they could pick on him.

If that were the case, the completion % and passer rating against him would be MUCH better, but it wasn’t.

So many of you are missing this point.

ChiefGator 02-15-2019 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14107544)
A little. But when your team sees 60% more passing plays than some teams - you can see why the Chiefs defense and Nelson gave up so many yards.

Ah.. true.

FAX 02-15-2019 07:38 AM

Yards?

Let's look at it this way; More targets means more opportunities for the defender to make a game-defining play. Forget yards. Ask yourself how many significant "game-defining" or "game-changing" plays did Nelson make last year? Or any of our d-backs, for that matter.

The law of averages works both ways.

FAX

Titty Meat 02-15-2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14106831)
Because you're a huge homer and I'm reasonable.

It's one of those "a broken watch is right twice a day" things. You should just be happy that you get to agree with me sometimes...

You both are wrong on Nelson.

Iczer 02-15-2019 09:13 AM

All I know is he has zero ball awareness. Teams had to have plays lined up for 3rd and long, chuck it deep to his side and hope they call a PI.

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-15-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14107135)
Do you have Beth's phone number?

Apparently, you aren't a good QB if you don't have it.

Chris Meck 02-15-2019 01:12 PM

Well...I think the big takeaway from this list is that you should NEVER go after CB's in free agency because the position is OVERVALUED to the point where a mediocre corner is gonna get like $15m a year.

**** that. Draft a CB every year and just turn and burn.

DJ's left nut 02-15-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14108279)
Well...I think the big takeaway from this list is that you should NEVER go after CB's in free agency because the position is OVERVALUED to the point where a mediocre corner is gonna get like $15m a year.

**** that. Draft a CB every year and just turn and burn.

CB and WR are both positions where you should throw numbers at the problem because many of them can contribute on special teams while you're trying to figure out exactly what they can give you at their 'primary' positions. Tremon Smith is a good example of that thought in action. Hell, Tyreek Hill is in that category.

You don't have to hit often to make it worthwhile; If you can find a late round or UDFA guy every 2-3 years that will give you a couple of solid seasons after being coached up, you're well ahead of the game.


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