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Prison Bitch 11-13-2016 09:56 AM

We aren't moving anyone. 2017 is our year. Cleve isn't tendering Napoli or Rajai Davis, who knows what happens to their starters who got hurt, etc etc. they're vulnerable for sure. I'm more worried about Det

lewdog 11-13-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12549374)
We aren't moving anyone. 2017 is our year. Cleve isn't tendering Napoli or Rajai Davis, who knows what happens to their starters who got hurt, etc etc. they're vulnerable for sure. I'm more worried about Det

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duncan_idaho 11-13-2016 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12549374)
We aren't moving anyone. 2017 is our year. Cleve isn't tendering Napoli or Rajai Davis, who knows what happens to their starters who got hurt, etc etc. they're vulnerable for sure. I'm more worried about Det


I think you're right unless the market for relievers remains crazy. A team like the Nats with a short window may be motivated to pay big now for an established bullpen stud like Davis rather than spend 80 million on chapman or Jensen.


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KevB 11-14-2016 10:54 AM

BA just came out with their top 10:

1. Josh Staumont, rhp
2. Matt Strahm, lhp
3. Hunter Dozier, 3b/of
4. Eric Skoglund, lhp
5. A.J. Puckett, rhp
6. Scott Blewett, rhp
7. Chase Vallot, c
8. Ryan O’Hearn, 1b
9. Jorge Bonifacio, of
10. Kyle Zimmer, rhp

Interesting that they have the 2 big lefties (Skoglund and Blewett) this high --- feels like their projecting their size and draft pedigree as much as anything.

duncan_idaho 11-14-2016 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12554424)
BA just came out with their top 10:



1. Josh Staumont, rhp

2. Matt Strahm, lhp

3. Hunter Dozier, 3b/of

4. Eric Skoglund, lhp

5. A.J. Puckett, rhp

6. Scott Blewett, rhp

7. Chase Vallot, c

8. Ryan O’Hearn, 1b

9. Jorge Bonifacio, of

10. Kyle Zimmer, rhp



Interesting that they have the 2 big lefties (Skoglund and Blewett) this high --- feels like their projecting their size and draft pedigree as much as anything.


Haven't read the full comments yet, but Staumont's upside is definitely the highest out of all Royals prospects. He's got a Verlander-good fastball/curve combo.

Control is significantly worse, though.


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WhawhaWhat 11-14-2016 01:29 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is increasing sentiment coming out of CBA negotiations that the qualifying-offer system, as we know it, is dying as of next year.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/798242553124573184">November 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If that means no compensation for departing free agents, this will CRUSH the Royals, who&#39;ll have 4-5 guys worth offering QO&#39;s to next year. <a href="https://t.co/qZSWqo2qvl">https://t.co/qZSWqo2qvl</a></p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/798243581106462720">November 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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KevB 11-14-2016 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12554806)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is increasing sentiment coming out of CBA negotiations that the qualifying-offer system, as we know it, is dying as of next year.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/798242553124573184">November 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If that means no compensation for departing free agents, this will CRUSH the Royals, who&#39;ll have 4-5 guys worth offering QO&#39;s to next year. <a href="https://t.co/qZSWqo2qvl">https://t.co/qZSWqo2qvl</a></p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/798243581106462720">November 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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If that's all true, that ruins several years of planning and strategy by our front office. That can't be enacted so quickly --- it's just not rationale by the league.

C3HIEF3S 11-14-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12554825)
If that's all true, that ruins several years of planning and strategy by our front office. That can't be enacted so quickly --- it's just not rationale by the league.

That stands if they remove compensation completely, IMO, I doubt the league would do that.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The sense I&#39;ve gotten is teams that lose FAs will get recompense in some form or fashion. It&#39;s more teams that sign them won&#39;t be penalized. <a href="https://t.co/7niKDPAcC2">https://t.co/7niKDPAcC2</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/798244640424071168">November 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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cosmo20002 11-14-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12548010)
Until we sign a DH, which I think is inevitable.

I have a feeling that if we sign a "real" DH (someone brought in to be a full-time DH) it is going to be someone worse than Kendrys at about the same price as we could have kept him Kendrys for.
More likely it seems is we will downgrade offensively and save some money, and downgrading this offense seems like a bad idea.

lewdog 11-14-2016 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12555109)
I have a feeling that if we sign a "real" DH (someone brought in to be a full-time DH) it is going to be someone worse than Kendrys at about the same price as we could have kept him Kendrys for.
More likely it seems is we will downgrade offensively and save some money, and downgrading this offense seems like a bad idea.

If Kendrys was that easily swayed to join the hated Blue Jays, dude was probably a clubhouse cancer.

Good riddance.

Prison Bitch 11-14-2016 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12555152)
If Kendrys was that easily swayed to join the hated Blue Jays, dude was probably a clubhouse cancer.

Good riddance.

:rolleyes:

Dude will be 34 and got his last contract. Good for him. He was great for us and that's all I care about.

duncan_idaho 11-14-2016 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12555109)
I have a feeling that if we sign a "real" DH (someone brought in to be a full-time DH) it is going to be someone worse than Kendrys at about the same price as we could have kept him Kendrys for.

More likely it seems is we will downgrade offensively and save some money, and downgrading this offense seems like a bad idea.


It would have cost KC $17 million to keep Morales this year, on the qualifying offer. That's too rich for an all-bat guy.

The extra year is likely what turned KC away from Morales on this deal.

They can get similar or even superior hitters for the same type of AAV but fewer years. One year of Beltran at $12 million or one year of Matt Holliday at $10 million is likely to produce similar or better results as Morales, at a lower/similar cost and with less long-term risk.

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12554888)
That stands if they remove compensation completely, IMO, I doubt the league would do that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The sense I&#39;ve gotten is teams that lose FAs will get recompense in some form or fashion. It&#39;s more teams that sign them won&#39;t be penalized. <a href="https://t.co/7niKDPAcC2">https://t.co/7niKDPAcC2</a></p>— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/798244640424071168">November 14, 2016</a></blockquote>

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This makes a lot more sense. Teams have always been compensated for players leaving as FAs. I imagine it will always exist in some form.


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lewdog 11-14-2016 05:58 PM

Bring Belly back in to DH? I heard he's getting in great shape.

Chiefspants 11-14-2016 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12555436)
Bring Belly back in to DH? I heard he's getting in great shape.

I would be interested in how this would go after Royals employee Mike Sweeney publicly **** on him after Billy got KO'd by Valencia.

nychief 11-14-2016 06:11 PM

Billy will prolly only get a minor league deal with spring invite.


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