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Fire Me Boy! 10-08-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8991569)
Hey, this guy supports us!

Who?

Saul Good 10-08-2012 09:32 AM

Have the banner flown over his house.

Mile High Mania 10-08-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8991447)
Problem is, the "banner" and the "fans that cheered when Cassel got hurt" are now the same people.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8991490)
I'm just disgusted that somehow those of us that just want to see a good football team are now the bad guys.

Yeah, it sucks that the two events are tied together, but that's where social media comes into play. Make it viral ... focus on the 'warm and fuzzy' aspect of this movement.

Maybe take Cassell's name out of the mix ... focus on Pioli and the Management of the team. Don't make it personal to a player, maybe that was the unfortunate fatal flaw given what happened. If the QB doesn't get hurt, there's nothing here really from a negative perspective.

The FB page is a solid start... now, put fan created videos with a positive slant and put the messages out there. The team has their PR department and ways to get their 'fuzzy' messages out there, now you guys have yours ... it's social media.

Stay positive, focused and clear with the goals of your rants. I doubt that many truly believe that answer to the QB riddle is on the team right now, especially Quinn.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 09:46 AM

http://i.imgur.com/i11m6.jpg

notorious 10-08-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Badguy (Post 8991628)
Have the banner flown into his house.

FYP

DaFace 10-08-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8991657)

ROFL...that one got me. And now I feel bad.

Molitoth 10-08-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8991657)

awesome

crazycoffey 10-08-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8990973)
Here's your buddy Deb, PR. She collected donations for her sign too.

what's an "ance" and why should I want to make a differ one?

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 09:50 AM

Maybe the next banner could be LAMAR DESERVES BETTER

or

LAMAR HUNT WOULD BE EMBARRASSED

luv 10-08-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Barney Stinson (Post 8991666)
what's an "ance" and why should I want to make a differ one?

I guess markers don't come with spell check. Who knew?

crazycoffey 10-08-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 8991570)
Eric, even Cassel deserved better blocking

FYP

crazycoffey 10-08-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 8991672)
I guess markers don't come with spell check. Who knew?

educator fail? Is that the point her difference makes?

Molitoth 10-08-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8991667)
Maybe the next banner could be LAMAR DESERVES BETTER

or

LAMAR HUNT WOULD BE EMBARRASSED

while this may get Clarks attention, Lamar fielded some extremely shitty teams for decades.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8991687)
while this may get Clarks attention, Lamar fielded some extremely shitty teams for decades.

And he was so embarrassed by it, he fixed it, and the team wasn't embarrassed again for almost 20 years.

Now it's happening again.

scho63 10-08-2012 10:15 AM

How about "Take Winston with You!!!"

Dayze 10-08-2012 10:17 AM

"chiefs-average since 1969"

Unsmooth-Moment 10-08-2012 10:18 AM

Why doesn't the next banner just read : SAVE OUR CHIEFS - FIRE PIOLI

Fire Me Boy! 10-08-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8991667)
Maybe the next banner could be LAMAR DESERVES BETTER

or

LAMAR HUNT WOULD BE EMBARRASSED

I love Lamar as much as the next guy, but Lamar would stay the course.

DTLB58 10-08-2012 10:28 AM

Clark must sell!

|Zach| 10-08-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8991698)
And he was so embarrassed by it, he fixed it, and the team wasn't embarrassed again for almost 20 years.

Now it's happening again.

What? He stayed with Jim Schaaf forever until hiring Peterson.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8991796)
What he stayed with Jim Schaaf forever until hiring Peterson.

Yes, and he was embarrassed by it, and fixed it.

Mile High Mania 10-08-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 8991750)
Why doesn't the next banner just read : SAVE OUR CHIEFS - FIRE PIOLI

That would be a good one... I wouldn't drag a Lamar reference into it.

Molitoth 10-08-2012 10:34 AM

how about we use our new negative publicity to our favor.

banner: KC CHIEFS EMBARRASSMENT LIVES W/ PIOLI.


Pioli's embarrassment of a team has led to the embarrassment of the fans that is directly going to embarrass the owner and the city.

frankotank 10-08-2012 10:34 AM

"Do you remember going to games in the late 90's and early 00's? Remember feeling the rumble of the crowd in your chest? High fiving and hugging complete strangers? Being unable to talk to the person next to you on defensive 3rd downs? I hope that one day soon we get back to that. I would love to hear the fans cheer from start to finish again. I want 120 decibels of madness because there is not a single person that believes we can possibly loose the game."

wow capone! nicely worded. nicely done. for a second there....I think I had something in my eye.....sniff.
sigh....I DO remember. I want a lotta mo! I was there in 95 when Vanover returned a punt 86 yards in OT to win. the single most exciting sporting event I've ever attended. complete strangers leaping into each others arms. I caught some fat bastard in mid air and hugged him like I knew him. awesome. just friggin awesome.
used to be there was nothing like arrowhead. used to be.....

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 10:39 AM

"We Want Winston to Pass Block For Pioli"

|Zach| 10-08-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8991800)
Yes, and he was embarrassed by it, and fixed it.

You would still still have 8 years of Pioli in front of you with Lamar at the helm.

BigMeatballDave 10-08-2012 10:40 AM

Nick Athan bashes Banner. Defends Winston.

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6069369

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8991832)
You would still still have 8 years of Pioli in front of you with Lamar at the helm.

Impossible to say.

Different eras, different leagues, different socio-economic climates.

Old Dog 10-08-2012 10:46 AM

http://www.aerialmessages.com/banner...a-florida.html

BryanBusby 10-08-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8991834)
Nick Athan bashes Banner. Defends Winston.

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6069369

I can't think of anyone more irrelevant than Nick Athan.

BigMeatballDave 10-08-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8991845)
I can't think of anyone more irrelevant than Nick Athan.

LOL I agree.

I thought it was funny when he bashed the banner and then it got quiet for a moment, then Fescoe and the other guy defended it.

Tribal Warfare 10-08-2012 10:50 AM

Here's a banner line Clark fix the problem, fire Pioli

Dayze 10-08-2012 10:51 AM

'do our local media hacks seriously engage with Athan for his inside information?
Do they not realize he's no different than 99% of the fatties sitting on their couches?

Mile High Mania 10-08-2012 10:56 AM

You have nearly 2,300 "likes" on that Facebook page - that is pretty impressive. Pump it up louder... this is kinda cool to watch and I hope it works out for the best for you guys.

Anyone that doubts your intent here is crazy - I've been around this place for a while, and for most here - you're far from a lazy and uncaring fan base.

scho63 10-08-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8991831)
"We Want Winston to Pass Block For Pioli"

WINNER!!! LMAO

|Zach| 10-08-2012 10:56 AM

This movement is going to (I think it might already have) reach a tipping point where everyone involved just comes off poorly.

Like the guy in the office that is always bitching about stuff. He is usually right but at some point it doesnt matter if he is right nobody wants to hear it.

I think the "send a message" part of this was done and what can be done effectively has plateaued. Its just a lack of butts in seats now that will make change.

BigRedChief 10-08-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8991872)
This movement is going to (I think it might already have) reach a tipping point where everyone involved just comes off poorly.

Like the guy in the office that is always bitching about stuff. He is usually right but at some point it doesnt matter if he is right nobody wants to hear it.

I think the "send a message" part of this was done and what can be done effectively has plateaued. Its just a lack of butts in seats now that will make change.

We havent reached the tipping point within one week. Booing Cassel set us back in the media coverage. We just need to focus the message on non-players.

CoMoChief 10-08-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8991872)
This movement is going to (I think it might already have) reach a tipping point where everyone involved just comes off poorly.

Like the guy in the office that is always bitching about stuff. He is usually right but at some point it doesnt matter if he is right nobody wants to hear it.

I think the "send a message" part of this was done and what can be done effectively has plateaued. Its just a lack of butts in seats now that will make change.

I agree to a degree. But you just have to be creative to keep the message fresh so that it doesn't go stale.

And what about the rest of the donation money LMAO?

Old Dog 10-08-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8991889)
We havent reached the tipping point within one week. Booing Cassel set us back in the media coverage. We just need to focus the message on non-players.

+1

scho63 10-08-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8991834)
Nick Athan bashes Banner. Defends Winston.

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6069369

It's ironic that this idiot started off saying how bad it was for cheering Cassel's injury and the waste of money for the "$1,800 Banner that should have gone to breast cancer" and then by the middle of the interview he tears into the team, the coaches, and the ownership just like all of us making our case!!! Says there is a total lack of leadership!

HAHAHA

|Zach| 10-08-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8991889)
We havent reached the tipping point within one week. Booing Cassel set us back in the media coverage. We just need to focus the message on non-players.

You guys are absolutely up against diminishing returns here. Making a different or more nuanced message really won't do shit to change the needle.

I mean its your money and all so whatever.

ChiTown 10-08-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8991889)
We havent reached the tipping point within one week. Booing Cassel set us back in the media coverage. We just need to focus the message on non-players.

Yep. Cassel isn't the problem at this point - he is the symptom to the problem. The problem is Pioli. ALL focus should be on that ass-wipe.

Old Dog 10-08-2012 11:07 AM

Fire Pioli - SaveOurChiefs.com

30 letters - Fits what we really want to say. I still thing doing one over Tampa should happen

scho63 10-08-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 8991908)
Fire Pioli - SaveOurChiefs.com

30 letters - Fits what we really want to say. I still thing doing one over Tampa should happen

Not bad and I think flying it over Tampa is a GREAT idea-keep the pressure on and bring in more media. :thumb:

Dayze 10-08-2012 11:09 AM

"Pioli, You're doing it wrong"

pr_capone 10-08-2012 11:11 AM

ok, now I really did update the OP. Dunno wot happened there.

The format is slightly changed and info is now organized. everything leading up to the flight of the banner, and the flight itself, is withing the spoiler tag. Needed to file it away otherwise the OP would take 42 mouse scrolls just to get through.

SuperChief 10-08-2012 11:29 AM

For the next phase, I think the banner idea is great, but anything the movement can do to associate with something in a more "positive" light would be great, too. Like others have mentioned, maybe something for charity, a "roast" of the Chiefs, etc.

Reerun_KC 10-08-2012 11:35 AM

How about something on the banner about our voice being bigger than Piolis?

OR why is our GM worrying about what the fans say over the product on the field.

I know those are long, but ideas...

Raiderhader 10-08-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 8991910)
Not bad and I think flying it over Tampa is a GREAT idea-keep the pressure on and bring in more media. :thumb:


Yep. And in light of yesterday's events I would change the wording up just a bit. The fans are not getting a fair shake in this fall out but, we cannot control it. Yes we do still deserve better but, that message is going to look a little off with what is being grossly misreported in the media. So let's give them one of the reason's we deserve better. Something along the lines of -


Chiefs Fans Pay For Better - Fire Piloi

And perhaps speaking to Clark from a financial perspective will garner more attention from him. :shrug:

|Zach| 10-08-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8991977)

OR why is our GM worrying about what the fans say over the product on the field.

So he is not listening and should do what we say when we yell it at him.

AND

Why are you listening to the fans???


Hahaha. What?

Molitoth 10-08-2012 11:44 AM

A poll need to be put together with the ideas for the next banner, and we should vote on it.

IMO sending a banner over an away game would send an even bigger message. Repeatedly flying a banner over arrowhead is kind've beating a dead horse... the KC media already knows what we are up to and why.
Think about sending it over next weeks Monday night game and all of the media attention on a national level that would bring.

We are passionate enough to send a plane to another stadium in which we aren't even playing at to get our opinion heard.

Dayze 10-08-2012 11:45 AM

KC Chiefs = Chicago Cubs
Clark, Scott: You're Embarassing Yourselves

Reerun_KC 10-08-2012 11:45 AM

The fans have rattled Pioli - Gum Wrappers Anyone

Raiderhader 10-08-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8992002)
A poll need to be put together with the ideas for the next banner, and we should vote on it.

IMO sending a banner over an away game would send an even bigger message. Repeatedly flying a banner over arrowhead is kind've beating a dead horse... the KC media already knows what we are up to and why.
Think about sending it over next weeks Monday night game and all of the media attention on a national level that would bring.

We are passionate enough to send a plane to another stadium in which we aren't even playing at to get our opinion heard.

Eh, I think over other team's stadiums where we are playing is perfect. Flying at stadiums where we aren't would just look retarded.

ChiTown 10-08-2012 11:52 AM

"Get Well Matt - Fire Pioli"

pr_capone 10-08-2012 11:53 AM

More OP Udated goodness:

Phase 2 -

We thought about flying a banner over Tampa but in the end, feel like it wouldn't do enough good. We are definitely going to fly another banner over Arrowhead but it will be on 10/28 against the Raiders. There are are few suggestions being tossed around. We have some time and I'll be making a poll to get ideas from CP. In the mean time, I wanted to give you an idea of what we have done so far donations and spending wise.

The cost of the banner was obvious... we all knew that was going to happen. We are also, unless anyone has any strong feelings against it, are going to spend $50 on ads on FB to drive attention to saveourchiefs.com.\

We have plenty of time to come up with the slogan for the next banner. There is one thing that must absolutely be on the banner and that is the saveourchiefs.com address that AustinChief provided us with. I am looking for suggestions, I know there are already 50k spread through this thread but I cannot go digging around for then. The only banner suggestions that will be considered are ones that end in saveourchiefs.com. The banner cannot exceed 42 characters, spaces not included. Any banners that either do not meet this criteria or suggest insulting or boorish behavior will not be included.

EXAMPLES:
PAY BOWE - DRAFT GENO - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM
CLARK, R U A FAN OR NOT? - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

I have asked a small group of people to help sort through banner ideas since there will be eleventybillion ideas thown out. We are going to narrow it down to our top X favorite ideas, then let CP vote on it.

As for donations status and expenditures:

Expenditures:
Banner #1 - $625.00
Ads on FB - $50.00

Current PayPal balance - $1,600.71
Check from Whitlock - $600
Balance - $2,200.71 (will update OP when check clears)

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 11:57 AM

PIOLI LIED, CASSEL DIED

Molitoth 10-08-2012 11:57 AM

NEW GM + NEW QB = PROFIT / SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

Dayze 10-08-2012 12:00 PM

Clark-fix your mistakes. Saveourchiefs.com

Bearcat 10-08-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8992046)
PIOLI LIED, CASSEL DIED

WINSTON CRIED

Marco Polo 10-08-2012 12:02 PM

FIRE QB & GM-KEEP THE REST-SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

Tribal Warfare 10-08-2012 12:02 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/DIoKr9VDg3A?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 12:03 PM

LAMAR HUNT WOULD FIX THIS TEAM - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

alnorth 10-08-2012 12:05 PM

The focus needs to be on Pioli.

I'd just keep it simple, "please fire pioli" followed by the url

Molitoth 10-08-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8992067)
LAMAR HUNT WOULD FIX THIS TEAM - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

Do like! That may eat Clark up.

luv 10-08-2012 12:06 PM

You've got the three paragraphs above the spoilers on there twice.

EDIT: Never mind. Looks good. ;)

Reerun_KC 10-08-2012 12:09 PM

Pioli doesnt like fans, Why support? saveourchiefs.com

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 12:10 PM

CURE CANCER FIRE PIOLI

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 12:13 PM

EAT SHIT, CLARK - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

pr_capone 10-08-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992109)
EAT SHIT, CLARK - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

I have a sneaking suspicion that this one probably won't make the cut.

luv 10-08-2012 12:18 PM

I really like your first example.

alnorth 10-08-2012 12:19 PM

Did we ever find out the price of a billboard, is that way too expensive?

Old Dog 10-08-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8992035)
More OP Udated goodness:

Phase 2 -

We thought about flying a banner over Tampa but in the end, feel like it wouldn't do enough good.

I'm not trying to be inciteful, but who is "we" in this instance? I think flying one over an away game shows we will go to great lengths to get our message heard. Is this the end of discussion on this point?

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 10-08-2012 12:24 PM

Fire Pioli - Winston STFU - SaveOurChiefs.com

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 10-08-2012 12:24 PM

Fire Pioli - Winston S.T.F.U. - SaveOurChiefs.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 8992150)
Fire Pioli - Winston STFU - SaveOurChiefs.com


the Talking Can 10-08-2012 12:25 PM

WINSTON IS A MUSLIM - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

Old Dog 10-08-2012 12:27 PM

to add to my point, we have a bye after Tampa, should we not keep the fire stoked rather than let it possibly fade during the bye week?

Fritz88 10-08-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 8989760)
My 2 cents, the Casselhoff, has been ridden hard. Time to amp up the anti-Pioli sentiment. As humans, we need to ignore Cassel and let him heal. The real issue now is mgmt and we need change there.

We need to think long term here with this effort...now that this week is done, we need to amp up steam for the MOvement in general, how fans are tired of Pioli, the coaches, not winning for 19 years etc....

This really isn't about Matt Cassel anymore. This is be reigniting the Chiefs legacy and re-discovering the "Kansas City Way"

This. The issue is not with the Cassel, it's with whose starting him.

pr_capone 10-08-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 8992147)
I'm not trying to be inciteful, but who is "we" in this instance? I think flying one over an away game shows we will go to great lengths to get our message heard. Is this the end of discussion on this point?

I have asked a few people with specific interweb skills critical to making this happend to help. I am also taking advice from all the moderators on the board.

teedubya is a web marketing expert
Marty had already been running the saveourchiefs stuff on FB and Twitter
Wendler - because like him or not, the guy has a passion for this team and has the video editing skills

---

The goal is for this group to filter the information so that we can present you with easy options instead of having 300+ people weigh in and have information or ideas on hos this should go scattered all over the thread.

/great question

pr_capone 10-08-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 8992171)
to add to my point, we have a bye after Tampa, should we not keep the fire stoked rather than let it possibly fade during the bye week?

We are definitely keeping the fire stoked during the next 2 weeks.

That is why we are going to be running FB ads. There is also a video that is likely to be released during the bye. There is still Twitter and FB... and I'm on Reddit preaching the gospel.


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