Kyler Murray commits to Football (Won’t play baseball)
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/kGePeWhrId">pic.twitter.com/kGePeWhrId</a></p>&mdash; Kyler Murray (@TheKylerMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKylerMurray/status/1095016263473119232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's goingto give back the money.


Sounds like he didn't want to be riding around on a bus all the time

If Im the A's Id be trying to get my money back. They gave him 5 million. There is no way he should get that money.

Did he say that he was giving back the money?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyler Murray received a nearly $5M signing bonus from the <a href="https://twitter.com/Athletics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Athletics</a>, which he’ll have to repay (rather than report to Spring Training this week). If he’s the last pick of the first round, he’ll get a roughly $5M signing bonus and about $10M guaranteed.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1095023322587381761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They didn't give him 5 million. Check into things before bitching sometime

They paid him 1.5 already and he's gotta pay back 1.29 iirc. The rest was due march 1 also iirc

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyler Murray will return $1.29 million of the $1.5 million signing bonus money the Oakland A’s gave him last year. He forfeits the remaining $3.16 million due March 1. The A’s will put him on the restricted list and retain Murray’s rights, but they don’t get a comp draft pick.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1095020486042497027?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good, hope the Raiders Chargers or Broncos draft this guy

So he gets to keep $210,000? He should have to give back every bit of it. It's bad enough that the A's lost the draft pick. I don't see why they should lose money too. Not that I give a shit about the A's. But $210,000 is 4-5 years earnings for millions of people and he's getting it for not making up his mind. SMH.

Guy is only 5’8”

He is no Bo Jackson.

Im not bitching? Why the **** would I be bitching about something that screwed over the A's? I saw he got a 5 million dollar signing bonus. So i figured he got 5 million from them. ****ing douche bag ruhtard

weird I am seeing 5' 11"

Wiki says 5’8”

He will get destroyed in the NFL. It's one thing to be short, it's another thing to be THAT short. Add in the fact that he relies on his mobility as much as he does and I don't foresee his career lasting too long.

Likewise. Same height as Russell Wilson.

he'll have to attach blocks to the pedals of his new Bugati.

Probably going to have a similar career to RG3.

Actually looking at Wiki it's neither. Says 5' 10"

evaluators say he's closer to 5'9"

No. He’s 5’8”-5’9” at best

Looked online. People have no idea how tall he is. According to Oklahoma’s strength and conditions coach Murray was just under 5’10” with socks on

Yeah that sounds like a problem. Any successful QBs that were that short? Doug Flutie was 5' 10".

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RG3 had a much bigger frame than Murray and was better equipped to take NFL hits.

Murray looks like a ninth grader running around out there. One solid lick and he's not gonna get back up.

shoe elevators say he's closer to 6'0"

Murray only weighs 194

Disagree. They knew this was a possible outcome.

What happened to RG3?

yikes yeah that's a concern - i just searched his name and it was in the box off to the right, in chrome.

Ravens

JFC He's short. We get it

you're ALWAYS bitching...

Easy decision. Get drafted. Get Paid. If it doesn't work out in the NFL play baseball.

Wrong

and he's a guy who weighs 180 lbs

Colleges always add a few inches and pounds to a players profile. If he really is 5' 8" and 180 pounds then he is the same size as Dante Hall lol.

smaller Dante was 190

Good point. I bet that he doesn't make it in the NFL. A's own rights to him. I bet he's in Oakland within 5 years.

Depends on if he falls. If he gets drafted in the first and bombs I bet he gets another look. If he falls to the third and bombs I bet he’s done.

FFS RG3 took a snap this year.

Von Miller is going to look weird in a Niners uniform.

Lol what?

Man, **** the A's huh

This is a huge mistake IMO. I think baseball will snub him when his dumb behind realizes he should have gone to the MLB.

Bunch of crap. He's friggin tiny!

Osweiler is 6’7”. Russell Wilson is 5’11”. Drew Brees is only 6’. Who would you rather have.

Height is overrated. QBs throw between defenders, not directly over their heads.

Weight is also overrated. A lot of QBs come into the league looking like a street corner teenager. Tom Brady looked like shit.

If you don’t think being under 5’10” is a legitimate concern, I don’t know what to tell you. The two guys you listed are the exceptions to the rule and even they are significantly taller than Murray.

Yeah there is a huge difference between 5'8" and 5'10" when it comes to a QB. You habe tall lineman blocking for you and you also have tall pass rushers running at you with their arms up. Being really short is going to make it extremely difficult on him and he will have a hard time seeing down the field and will probably have a ton of batted down passes.

There are a million reasons QBs fail. A good QB will overcome any physical limitation.

Height? Russ/Brees
Strength? Brady
Athleticism? Brady/Manning
Arm strength? Montana
police? Big Ben

My point is that 99% of quarterbacks fail. You can always point to a reason. The reason is that succeeding is a confluence of factors, the ultimate organization and hierarchy of which is totally unknown to even the top experts.

Nobody knows why one QB sucks and another one is amazing. So, they point to the few factors they CAN measure.

I agree with what you’re saying for the most part, but we’re talking about a guy that is well below even Russ/Brees.

That’s a legitimate concern and there’s no other way around it.

Every other good QB you can come up with would be a different QB if they were ****ing 5’8”. To suggest otherwise is foolish.

Then the Kyler Murrays...

4-5 years? Yikes...

Two things... 1) OU's line was HUGE.. bigger than most NFL lines...

2) It's a DIFFERENT game. QB's don't get hit like they used to.

I think you'd be surprised...

It's true that QBs don't get hit like they used to. Unless they run. Which Murray does. A lot.

There is a suggustion floating around that the Cheating Donx are going to trade Miller, plus their # 2 to switch draft places with the 49'ers.

Dumb decision

Obviously the right move for him. Gets paid a lot more guaranteed at the outset and still has the opportunity to transition to baseball in a few years if he flames out (most likely).

Think about it: in a year you can have more money and be competing for a starting NFL QB job or be in high single A/maybe AA riding the bus and dreaming of the majors.

It's not even particularly close.

Hope he saves his NFL rookie contract, because it's going to be the last paycheck he gets that doesn't involve selling insurance or working for a relative.

Would you draft a 4'8" QB? At some point, height does matter. The question is what is the line of demarcation? If it's not Murray's size, it's damn close.

It is hard to see where to throw that ball when you are trying to look through 10+ players at the widest part of their bodies. If he needs to throw into the flat he is going to have to lob that ball over the players, making that ball easier and more likely to get intercepted. It is going to be much harder for a short person to use the screen game also.

I doubt he gets drafted first round

I caught part of a show about his dad over the weekend. He definitely didn't want him riding buses

I disagree. He'll make money in MLB if he busts in nfl.

He’s not a first round talent. I think his time would be better spent developing his baseball skills. His small frame is going to get him hurt.

I think he's got assurance by at least 1 team that they're planning to take him in the first.

He should be a slot wr. His athleticism is off the cbarts

You act like he hasn't played with tall linemen already wtf lol

Hell, you saw it against Alabama.

IMO he’ll have some success moving around and getting outside the pocket. But teams will decide not to overpersue and make him throw from the pocket and he’ll struggle.

You know better than that. Teams are chalk full of flaming ****ing idiots. One of those flaming ducking idiots will convince other flaming ****ing idiots to take him in the first round.

No the NFL is very different than college and high school. His height is a huge issue in the NFL.

waste of a pick, I don't think he will be able to see over the NFL linesmen

Did anyone catch the interviews he was doing during super bowl week

****ing wierd

Idk dude he put up numbers at OU he just has a small frame. I think hell be more lamar jacksonish

A lot of mocks have him going in the first round - some of them very early. I highly doubt he made this decision without a good amount of research and some assurance that he wouldn't fall too far.

They’re dumbasses if they take him in the first round.

He just signed the same agent as kingsbury.

I bet the cardinals take him first overall

I will have the popcorn ready if they do. Holy hell.

I walked by Kyler prior to a basketball game a while back and he conservatively came up to my nose.

I'm 6'0.

Its too dismissive of all of the success that the guy has had up to this point to assume that he's going to fail now just because he's 5'10". On the contrary I think he could actually be pretty good in the NFL if he's able to stay healthy. Height obviously matters for QB's, but it matters less and less as teams go with more shotgun sets and spread offense., With his particular skillset, coaches are going to have no problem getting him out of the pocket into situations where he can either pass or run. He has the chance to be really dangerous in that kind of offense.

Durability is obviously going to be a concern for him, but durability isn't always related to size. If you put Sammy Watkins and Tyreek Hill next to each other, who would you assume is more injury prone? There are obviously more factors at work when it comes to susceptibility to injury than just size. Sometimes actually the big guys like Gronk take more punishment because other plays can more easily square up on them and deliver a big hit.

He should send a portion of his first check to Russell Wilson though, as the fact that Wilson is successful in the league already is going to raise this Murray's draft stock by an entire round on its own. Coaches love to copy others, because then if the pick blows up in their faces they can at least say "Hey, we thought he was the next Russell Wilson." Its a subtle way to shift the blame onto someone else.

He’s a project at best at QB. Not a first round talent.