Tamba drops a deuce on Alex Smith
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tamba Hali recently admitted that, at times when Patrick Mahomes was on the bench behind Alex Smith in 2017, Chiefs players wanted Mahomes to play. <a href="https://t.co/U9kNvalVfY">https://t.co/U9kNvalVfY</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1789296129043054867?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I'll throw Florio a bone on this one... or maybe an anvil?

Who didn't? They told Alex Smith that was his season and they kept their word. The season ended up being a waste and now we have a dynasty.

So glad the Chiefs didn't give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor! :)

Love me some tamba but we didn't need to know that. I was perfectly content with mahomes being great and Alex being ceremiously moved. Even if we know tambas right

Is this supposed to be shocking?

Oh I hope you haven't been hurt. Poor sweet summer child.

Alex Smith deserved to be shit on.

Aw did that hurt yur wittle feewings

Is this worth re-litigating? JFC

All is well that ends well.

Sandy told me not to feel sorry for Alex because he's got way more money than I do.

Okay, so I won't.

The 2022 draft reloading this team so they could have another championship window really saved us from the disappointment that they only won one title on Mahomes rookie deal. The dynasty really could have started earlier.

Mahomes was better in practice than Alex Smith? No shit Sherlock.

Nobody is re-litigating. Just getting a player's behind-the-scenes perspective. Well ok, maybe Florio went overboard in the article. That's why I only posted the tweet.

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They must have been in awe when they first saw Mahomes play

Yup. I knew he was "it" in that first Denver game. Yowza!

Speaking of Alex Smith... he's living in SF now & playing to the local fans. At least he didn't go full Steve Bono:

Alex Smith believes bad luck played into 49ers' Super Bowl losses

There are a handful of reasons why the 49ers might have lost Super Bowl LVIII to the Kansas City Chiefs.

San Francisco's defense couldn't stop superstar quarterback Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs offense when it mattered most. The 49ers' wide receivers struggled to get separation in Kansas City's zone defense, leading to empty offensive possessions in the second half.

However, sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way.

Former 49ers quarterback Alex Smith joined KNBR 680's "Murph & Markus" on Friday morning and was asked about San Francisco failing to win the Super Bowl after coming close on multiple occasions over the years and if they have a problem getting over the hump and winning the "big game."

"It's a good problem. You can take six plays from this last Super Bowl and if the ball just bounces a different way on one of them, the Niners are holding up the Lombardi," Smith said. "You got to keep getting opportunities, and there is a certain amount of luck in this, and I think unfortunately they've been on the wrong side of it a few times. And Kyle [Shanahan] has been on the wrong side of it even more.

"This kind of sustained success they're having, that is so rare. It's so rare, it's so hard to do and they just need to keep knocking at the door. And they're going to get it."

Shanahan, as a coach and offensive coordinator, has been on the losing end of three Super Bowls after his team held fourth-quarter leads. Widely regarded as one of the best coaches in the NFL, Shanahan -- similar to the early career of former Philadelphia Eagles and current Chiefs coach Andy Reid -- has come away empty-handed in the playoffs.

"And it's so funny that Kyle and the Niners have lost twice to the Chiefs and Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, because this was kind of Andy's thing for so long, all the sustained success he had in Philly but couldn't win the big game," Smith added. "It kind of reminds me a little bit of what Kyle's going through.

"Clearly everybody recognized their offensive geniuses, some of the best coaches in the NFL and couldn't get it done. And all of a sudden you finally do and now Andy's on the Mount Rushmore of coaches. It can change very quickly and I think it's going to for Kyle and this Niners team."

Reid posted a 130-93-1 record in 14 seasons as the Eagles coach. Philadelphia made the playoffs nine times during his tenure and consistently was one of the best teams in the league. But Reid never won a Super Bowl.

Until seven years later when he finally hoisted the Vince Lombardi Trophy after defeating Shanahan and the 49ers in Super Bowl LIV. He went on to win two more against the Eagles in 2023 and of course San Francisco again in 2024.

Will Shanahan and the 49ers follow a similar path?

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I mean, he is right. Luck is one of many factors in who wins the superbowl and we had more of it than the niners, at least in the second meeting. It didn't hurt that Shanahan is a choke artist and we have the greatest player on the planet, either.

I'm not surprised. But I also don't think things could have turned out better after Mahomes took over.

So... Whatever I guess. :shrug:

Alex will be fine. If these comments from Tamba Hali (a far and away more likable guy, I might add) rustle Smith's jimmies, he can wear his super duper, emotional support safety pin that he busts out when he's all in his own feels. 😂

And besides. It is merely a drop in the bucket compared to all the nauseating Alex Smith slobberfest coverage that occurs from time to time. I don't care how much the media love him. I'll never care for the dude. He was the perfect poster boy for the Chiefs' mediocrity-at-best aura that loomed over Arrowhead for several decades. Thank goodness Patrick Mahomes instantly and once and for all demolished that stank with a sledgehammer. 🙏🏻😎

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It’s old news… already known.

But congrats on helping to get clickbait whore Florio his desired clicks.

Nah I don't feel that way at all. His comments were harmless. I just don't think they were necessary or get any hatred for the guy. I wanted to move off from him as much as anyone. But he restored a franchise in the gutter, got us our first playoff win in decades, and was an absolute pro during the mahomes transition into retirement. I have no bad feelings whatsoever other than maybe it ended a year later than it should've... Maybe

Even though this has been widely known for 6-7 years, I told you I would have some hard-hitting investigative reporting coming.

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Alex Smith never would have helped out Logan Paul like that

It's gonna be ok buddy.

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This.

It’s the most obvious thing in the world. We had a home game that season against the Bills where we didn’t have a first down in the first half. Some players at times would’ve preferred having their first round pick who was throwing no-look passes in practice as the starter? Shocker! Alex Smith is going to be hurt by this report? Are you people kidding? He’s a totally smart, self-aware person. If 100pct of Chiefs players passed a polygraph that they didn’t want Mahomes as their starter at some point during that season, that would be the news.

So you’re blaming him for the fact that Reid kept him as the QB? Is that his fault?

And the “slobberfest” just might, might be a function of the fact that the guy was mangled on the field and nearly died from being septic yet eventually worked his way back to play again. That’s nauseating? You’d rather blame him for the fact that he was a complete professional dedicated to the team who just didn’t have the generational talent of his predecessor?

Again, blame Reid and Veach. They were running things in 2017 and kept Alex as the starter. He didn’t sulk and throw a fit demanding that role because of his “feels.”

I told my brothers after the Titans playoff loss in 2017 that if the chiefs had really wanted to win, they should have played Mahomes.

The way he tore up the league all throughout 2018, there is no doubt in my mind that those playoff defenses would not have had an enough time to figure out how to defend him.

I think that report would sting Smith a little bit. If only because it was said out loud by a former teammate. Smith has pride. But he’d never admit that it stung. At least not in public. I like that about him.

I don’t think anyone disagrees with this. Even at the time, it seemed like it may have been the case.

I just don’t think there’s anyone to blame but Reid. Full stop. How would you ever hold this against Alex Smith?

And do you guys want to hold this as a black mark against Reid?

Was hoping there would be video of the poop. Sadly disappointed.

I’d be surprised if we got past New England anyhow.

As the next season confirmed, we weren’t really ready for them just yet.

It's definitely on Reid. I think if he had to do it over again, he'd probably do it differently. I think Reid felt he was being prudent by not throwing Mahomes into the playoff fire after not starting all year. But Pat has proven since that the moment would not have been too big for him.

Kelce talked about it. Couldn't believe there was a rookie just slingin it with the scout team during practice. Reportedly he also made Justin Houston look silly during practice one day.

Safe to say, the team knew what they had going into next season.

Counterpoint: Reid wrecked Belichick in the NFL opener in that season with Alex when the Patriots didn’t know what was coming with Hill and Hunt. If they busted Mahomes out in the playoffs, that might’ve done the trick timing-wise to not give defenses the time to adjust properly.

Mahomes could have broken every rookie record. They kept their word to Smith and we have 3 more title so it hardly matters.

lol bro, i'm simply not into alex smith...there is nothing about it worth psychoanalyzing or worrying about. i'm sure you have your own guys you just don't care for also. to each their own.

also, your downvote only makes my loathing of alex smith that much stronger :evil:

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That’s nice but totally irrelevant.!Reid wanted him to follow Alex and Mahomes had nothing but praise for that decision.

Do u have video of the pooping

We'll never know what that alternate universe might have looked like, but it seems improbable that it could have been as great as the one we Chiefs fans live in today. The one game Mahomes played in 2017 was amazing and fed him experience and confidence. Then the absolute explosion in 2018 propelled him into super stardom. Has any first or second year player ever had a season anywhere close to that? Makes it hard to argue that any other path to developing and starting Mahomes could have been better.

Yeah, this discussion comes up and we all just assume Mahomes would've won a super bowl his rookie year and everything else would've played out the exact same. No one seems to understand the butterfly effect, EVERYTHING from that point on would've been drastically different, very likely worse than where we are right now.

Mahomes very likely was better than Smith his rookie year, but I wouldn't change any of that. What we have now unequivocally is the best timeline, I wouldn't trade it for anything.

the video file is password protected and silly me, I forgot the password...could have sworn it was something along the lines of scatbackfever1! but no luck yet. do you think the geek squad could crack it?

Smith sucks.

Water under the bridge.

Why?

For a point of reference I figured Mahomes would be the starter by mid season. Coulda, shoulda, woulda but it appears others felt the same. It's not a surprise. LMAO

Alex ****ing Smith is the reason I stopped going to at least one game at arrowhead for twenty five years.

So, yeah, F him.

Some people hate the guy for coming here and helping completely change the culture while leading us to winning records every single season as a starter and winning our first playoff game in 20 years. Not to mention being an incredible mentor for Pat.

Yeah, dude was such a tool. I guess.

Andy Reid changed the culture.

That was Alex's best season. Benching him would have been as insulting as it was stupid.

He was replaced at the right time in the offseason.

Reid/Dorsey gave up multiple 2s for him even paid him. We all know what we were getting in him I like how they don't get any blame. Yet they won countless division titles and broke the playoffs streak with him at QB. CP is a really miserable place

It was the cult that followed Alex was the true antagonist

Kinda feel like this is your just being salty for choosing the worst possible time to sell low on the Chiefs as a fan.

4,000 yards, 27 TD. Which at the time had him in the MVP conversation at one point.

They did it perfectly, and it’s really weird how bitter some people still are towards the guy.

That I can agree with. I was never of the belief we would win a Super Bowl with him, but he was perfect while they looked for ‘the guy.’ At the time, who could complain with winning 10+ games and the division every year? It’s weird.

He ran his course and they moved on at the perfect time. I don’t understand the misdirected hate and never will.

I disagree with Smith being replaced at the right time.

He absolutely, 100% played one half of football too much for the Chiefs. His ass should have been benched at halftime of the playoff game.

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Best play of Alex Smiths career, too bad he waited until down 21-6 to pull it off!

We were leading like 21-3 at halftime of the playoff game.

You must be thinking of a different season.

That is completely true.

He had thrown in the towel, and the second half would have been the perfect time to unleash Mahomes. It may have made the story even better than it ended up, it may have made him a legend at a different level than we are even seeing.

But he also could have shit all over himself and ruined his confidence for life. People don’t understand how complex this shit is. There’s no right answer, and I’m not going to look back and care, because we’re now the premier organization in pro sports, so I’m pretty damn happy.

Think he’s talking about the Steeler game in Alex’s last year.

But that wasn't Alex's last year. The Steelers game was the 2016-2017 season. Mahomes wasn't around yet.

Alex's last playoff game was against the Titans in 2017-2018.

Holy shit, I had those two years totally crossed up lol.

Thanks!

Believe whatever you want. Point is, 25 years of going to all those Chiefs games, at least one in arrowhead, some more, and going to several away games, I had enough. Enough of the reread qb's. Every year was the same for all of us. Just draft a 1st round QB. Try it. If it was a miss, then it was a miss, but by God we tried.

That's why I wouldn't invest in the team anymore. If you're not going to try, then no, you don't get my money.

Ironically it was the next season we drafted Mahomes. But I haven't been back. No vendetta, no idea why I haven't. Guess I felt 25 years straight was fine with me. Will I go? Probably, but don't know when.

One last Alex smith argument to rule them all.

Threw a Super Bowl away because of that shithead

Yeah people forgot that the year before Alex and Andy we were flying banners over the stadium. The year before Andy was fired and reeling from the worst stretch in his career. This team desperately needed to win right away and we needed to get the playoff monkey off our back. Many qbs can't pull this shit off. He served his purpose. It wasn't his fault he was there a year or 2 too long.

That 17' team wasn't going to win a super bowl LMAO

You are insane.

They went 10-6 and Alex Smith and was an MVP candidate. He had a 105 QB rating. Mahomes would have went scorched earth. Prime Kelce, Reek and Kareem Hunt before he kicked bitches.

The offense fell off a cliff midway through the season. Peters checked out and the ghost of Darelle Revis at the other CB. Kelce suffered another concussion in the Titans game and Jones got banged up. They didn't weren't winning shit that year

Tamba must be back on the chaw

You must not believe that Patrick Mahomes is at minimum the 2nd best QB that has ever lived.

I bet tamba had a hawg

I'm surprised that Tamba's era overlapped Mahomes' era.

No, no he doesn't.

You think him and Chris Jones jousted?

If they didn’t, I don’t know if I can go on with life.

It's Andy's call as to who plays and who sits. Andy made up for it in the Mahomes era.

We good.

Hard to argue against Mahomes, but I do find it weird that often the talented guys who end up sitting like Mahomes, Rodgers, Philip Rivers, even Jordan Love now... they seem to have quite a bit of success. Love looked like he might be the best QB in the NFC at the end. You'd think more teams would see this and try it, but I get most coaches are on the hot seat more than Reid or any of the Packers coaches. You could make a pretty strong argument that letting a raw QB just be a student for the first year is a solid plan compared to "throw him out there and see what you've got."

Because people have to make up stories about him and all of the feel good bullshit we get fed about him. People want to act like Mahomes would have never become what he wax without Alex Smith. I'll pushback on that nonsense everytime.

Yeah from opposite end zones.

I was just jumping the gun with saying he should have started at halftime.

I believe Kelce went out with a concussion, and the offense couldn't do anything in the second half.

I believe if Mahomes plays in the second half, we score at least, AT LEAST, a FG and we don't lose by 1 point.

But, yeah, let's say Smith should not have played the entire second half.