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wazu 05-08-2024 07:56 PM

WR Zay Jones scheduled to visit the Chiefs on Thursday [signed with Arizona]
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Jaguars WR Zay Jones is scheduled to visit Thursday with the Kansas City Chiefs, per league sources.<br><br>After Jacksonville released him last week, Jones has visited the Titans, Cardinals and Cowboys - with the Chiefs on deck. <a href="https://t.co/thxVqQOvL8">pic.twitter.com/thxVqQOvL8</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1788382866591588684?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In58men 05-08-2024 07:59 PM

Low risk high reward

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Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2024 07:59 PM

Mouth fart noise

Jewish Rabbi 05-08-2024 08:01 PM

I’m ****ing HOR-NAY!!!

ThyKingdomCome15 05-08-2024 08:02 PM

My goodness some of you guys have wanted him for four years. LMAO

Bump 05-08-2024 08:05 PM

it looks like, just looking at the stats, that he's gotten better over time. 800 yards 2 seasons ago and had 300 yards in 9 games which is meh but that would actually be good for us lol. He would probably do more than Skyy and Toney so **** it bring him in.

BWillie 05-08-2024 08:07 PM

Do it Bart Peach

KCBlitz 05-08-2024 08:08 PM

Rice without the crimes.

KC_Connection 05-08-2024 08:09 PM

Love Zay. Get it done.

Titty Meat 05-08-2024 08:11 PM

Do the the same CP posters in the Rice thread that were telling people nbd you're overreacting wanna tell Veach?

The Franchise 05-08-2024 08:13 PM

Better than Moore.

staylor26 05-08-2024 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17514039)
Better than Moore.

And Toney and Watson.

BWillie 05-08-2024 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17514039)
Better than Moore.

You don't say?

KC Hawks 05-08-2024 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17514014)
I’m ****ing HOR-NAY!!!

ME TO!

Megatron96 05-08-2024 08:20 PM

Found a couple scouting reports on Zay Jones that might be illuminating. Understanding of course that these were written prior to his being drafted:
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zay-jo...b-837ea00d253e
hhttps://www.playerprofiler.com/article/zay-jones-advanced-stats-metrics-nfl-draft-profile/ttp://


Sounds like another Richie James type.

Couch-Potato 05-08-2024 08:21 PM

"Jones had 158 receptions for 1,746 yards and eight touchdowns in the 2016 season. In this NFL Draft class there is no better receiver in terms of yards after the catch. As a freshman he caught 63 passes. As a sophomore he had 81 receptions and as a junior he hauled in 98 receptions.

The Pirates QB position has been a revolving door over the past 3 seasons, with 6 QB’s logging starts at one point or another. Zay Jones didn’t let it affect his play, as he produces with all of them. His ability to get open on short and intermediate routes make him a reliable safety net for anyone behind center.

The most important thing to note about his game is that he doesn’t drop balls. I counted one single clean drop out of all the games I watched. He also has experience running a variety of routes well. Screens, reverses and slants made up the majority of his route tree, making him a good fit for a West Coast offense."

Ok, sounds like a perfect Rice replacement until he returns.

Megatron96 05-08-2024 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17514048)
Jones had 158 receptions for 1,746 yards and eight touchdowns in the 2016 season. In this NFL Draft class there is no better receiver in terms of yards after the catch. As a freshman he caught 63 passes. As a sophomore he had 81 receptions and as a junior he hauled in 98 receptions.

The Pirates QB position has been a revolving door over the past 3 seasons, with 6 QB’s logging starts at one point or another. Zay Jones didn’t let it affect his play, as he produces with all of them. His ability to get open on short and intermediate routes make him a reliable safety net for anyone behind center.

The most important thing to note about his game is that he doesn’t drop balls. I counted one single clean drop out of all the games I watched. He also has experience running a variety of routes well. Screens, reverses and slants made up the majority of his route tree, making him a good fit for a West Coast offense.

Ok, sounds like a perfect Rice replacement until he returns.



Pirates? Is this guy a pitcher or a catcher? err, receiver, I mean . . .

Dark Horse 05-08-2024 08:23 PM

I picture Veach as a Wild West gunslinger strutting up and kicking in the saloon door and shouting I’m looking for the dead son of a bitch that shot my brother.

Of course since his powder got wet in a downpour the night before he stopped at the local general store and bought some new ammo

ChiliConCarnage 05-08-2024 08:29 PM

He got a pretty big contract a couple of years back, I believe.

I think he caught that corner touchdown deepball from Nick Foles on the play where Foles got injured against us. It was a nice throw. We kicked the Jags ass pretty good that game

TwistedChief 05-08-2024 08:32 PM

We need to raise the floor of the room without Rice. Zay Jones gives us that. End of story.

Couch-Potato 05-08-2024 08:33 PM

So... why hasn't he produced more in the league so far?

BigRedChief 05-08-2024 08:35 PM

Zay is a no brainer. He needs a rehab year if he wants a big deal. Doesn’t come without risk, but Andy knows how to keep a team on track.

Need to sign him tomorrow.

Megatron96 05-08-2024 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 17514060)
He got a pretty big contract a couple of years back, I believe.

I think he caught that corner touchdown deepball from Nick Foles on the play where Foles got injured against us. It was a nice throw. We kicked the Jags ass pretty good that game



His NFL.com scouting report says that while he struggles to create sep at the top of his routes, he catches with his hands, snatches the ball out of the air, and plays very physically at the catchpoint. All traits that could be very useful to our offense, especially if Rice doesn't play for more than a couple games.

GeorgeZimZam 05-08-2024 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17514064)
Zay is a no brainer. He needs a rehab year if he wants a big deal. Doesn’t come without risk, but Andy knows how to keep a team on track.

Need to sign him tomorrow.

A no brainer to replace our "no brainer."

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 08:39 PM

Trevor was night and day better with Zay than without him. It would be a solid move with or without rice.

Titty Meat 05-08-2024 08:40 PM

Not that it's saying much but Jones Brown Worthy is better than Rice and whatever trash we started last year

staylor26 05-08-2024 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17514073)
Not that it's saying much but Jones Brown Worthy is better than Rice and whatever trash we started last year

The room is already much better without Zay, so that would just be the cherry on top.

Dark Horse 05-08-2024 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17514075)
The room is already much better without Zay, so that would just be the cherry on top.

And when Rice returns quite possibly the best group Mahomes has had

BigRedChief 05-08-2024 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam (Post 17514071)
A no brainer to replace our "no brainer."

Exactly!:thumb:

Fishels 05-08-2024 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17514062)
We need to raise the floor of the room without Rice. Zay Jones gives us that. End of story.

100% agreed

Why Not? 05-08-2024 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17514037)
Do the the same CP posters in the Rice thread that were telling people nbd you're overreacting wanna tell Veach?

Veach isn't a random internet Jabroni. He takes action before problems become problems. See Hardman, Mecole. Even though he didn't become some all world guy, Veach didn't wait to see if Tyreek was gonna be able to play or not. He took action. Same thing here.....assuming we sign Zay. If not, he is a broke dick JAG who will suck anywhere else, of course.

BigRedChief 05-08-2024 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17514089)
Veach isn't a random internet Jabroni. He takes action before problems become problems. See Hardman, Mecole. Even though he didn't become some all world guy, Veach didn't wait to see if Tyreek was gonna be able to play or not. He took action. Same thing here.....assuming we sign Zay. If not, he is a broke dick JAG who will suck anywhere else, of course.

we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.

staylor26 05-08-2024 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17514122)
we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.

LMAO

How are you supposed to account for basically your entire OL falling apart due to injuries?

There's no plan for that.

New World Order 05-08-2024 10:06 PM

I'm HORNY

Mecca 05-08-2024 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17514063)
So... why hasn't he produced more in the league so far?

He caught 82 balls 2 years ago...before that he was saddled in QB purgatory in Buffalo and Vegas..this past year he got hurt.

New World Order 05-08-2024 10:10 PM

Rice, Hollywod and Jones in the playoffs with Kelce is very nice

staylor26 05-08-2024 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17514127)
Rice, Hollywod and Jones in the playoffs with Kelce is very nice

Umm Worthy?

New World Order 05-08-2024 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17514128)
Umm Worthy?

https://c.tenor.com/HEMQmYHww6MAAAAd...-very-nice.gif

Couch-Potato 05-08-2024 10:30 PM

Chief's have their types at WR

YAC Guys
R. Rice
Z. Jones

Deep Speed
M. Brown
X. Worthy
J. Watson

Questionable
K. Toney
S. Moore
J. Ross

thabear04 05-08-2024 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17514033)
Rice without the crimes.

https://amp.tmz.com/2018/03/20/zay-j...-bills-player/

KCBlitz 05-08-2024 11:49 PM

Yikes. That seems like a mental disorder issue. That can be treated. Stupidity like what Rice did not so much.

New World Order 05-09-2024 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 17514145)

He'll fit in well here

smithandrew051 05-09-2024 12:41 AM

He can do that cool levitating thing

Rainbarrel 05-09-2024 05:09 AM

Wentz Wednesday would have worked better

Kman34 05-09-2024 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17514122)
we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.

WTF? Everyone got hurt..

displacedinMN 05-09-2024 05:35 AM

put more weapons in the arsenal

dlphg9 05-09-2024 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17514064)
Zay is a no brainer. He needs a rehab year if he wants a big deal. Doesn’t come without risk, but Andy knows how to keep a team on track.

Need to sign him tomorrow.

He ain't getting a big deal even if he had 1000 yds here. He's almost 30 and has had over 500 yds 3 times. He's never had over 823 yds in a season. What risk?

DJ's left nut 05-09-2024 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17514192)
He ain't getting a big deal even if he had 1000 yds here. He's almost 30 and has had over 500 yds 3 times. He's never had over 823 yds in a season. What risk?

He could earn himself $10-12 million in 2025.

That's not a 'big deal' by WR standards but that's a hell of a lot more than walking around money.

Dunerdr 05-09-2024 05:55 AM

I hella pro Rashee but this almost feels like a must sign if we want to be a top 5 offense this year.

PatMahomesIsGod 05-09-2024 06:11 AM

Make it happen, Veachy.

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-09-2024 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse (Post 17514082)
And when Rice returns quite possibly the best group Mahomes has had

Unless Rice is put on the commissioners exemptions for this latest incident, his suspension will most likely be in 2025.

Gravedigger 05-09-2024 07:14 AM

Sends a message to Rice to get his shit together because he's on the doorstep if he continues to embarrass the Clarks.

BigRedChief 05-09-2024 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17514192)
He ain't getting a big deal even if he had 1000 yds here. He's almost 30 and has had over 500 yds 3 times. He's never had over 823 yds in a season. What risk?

Who's saying sign him to a big deal? I was thinking a cheap 1 year deal to prove yourself. Then like DJ said, he can get himself a $10-$12 million deal with another team in 2025.

tredadda 05-09-2024 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17514122)
we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.

So essentially you are saying that Veach should have somehow knew that:

1. LDT would opt out for the season due to Covid
2. Schwartz, their All Pro RT would miss the second half of the season due to back issues that caused him to retire.
3. Fisher would blow out his Achille's near the end of the AFCCG.

Not saying that KC would have won the SB without the Fisher injury, but of all the line players that did not play in the SB, Fisher's was easily the most crushing. Remmers was serviceable at RT. but a disaster at LT.

Dunerdr 05-09-2024 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17514249)
So essentially you are saying that Veach should have somehow knew that:

1. LDT would opt out for the season due to Covid
2. Schwartz, their All Pro RT would miss the second half of the season due to back issues that caused him to retire.
3. Fisher would blow out his Achille's near the end of the AFCCG.

Not saying that KC would have won the SB without the Fisher injury, but of all the line players that did not play in the SB, Fisher's was easily the most crushing. Remmers was serviceable at RT. but a disaster at LT.

Yes he is saying that a good GM would know.

smithandrew051 05-09-2024 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17514123)
LMAO

How are you supposed to account for basically your entire OL falling apart due to injuries?

There's no plan for that.

Mitchell Schwartz was the most dependable guy on the team until his back injury that year.

I don’t remember Fisher missing any time until his Achilles injury.

Plus, we had 2 Covid opt outs.

Blaming Veach for that is really something.

BWillie 05-09-2024 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17514126)
He caught 82 balls 2 years ago...before that he was saddled in QB purgatory in Buffalo and Vegas..this past year he got hurt.

I don't think Josh Allen is football purgatory.

BWillie 05-09-2024 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 17514145)

Sounds like a Chief already.

wazu 05-09-2024 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17514260)
I don't think Josh Allen is football purgatory.

He was during his rookie and sophomore seasons.

RunKC 05-09-2024 07:58 AM

Not opposed to him at all. Really we’re simply trying to fill the 4th receiving target (at what) here.

We needed size to play outside and he provides that.

DJ's left nut 05-09-2024 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17514274)
Not opposed to him at all. Really we’re simply trying to fill the 4th receiving target (at what) here.

We needed size to play outside and he provides that.

Red zone packages with Rice in a big slot role and Jones out wide would be pretty useful even when we get Rice back.

There's a lot of utility we'd get from a healthy Jones. He's more than a stopgap.

LagunaSWana 05-09-2024 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17514046)
Found a couple scouting reports on Zay Jones that might be illuminating. Understanding of course that these were written prior to his being drafted:
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zay-jo...b-837ea00d253e
hhttps://www.playerprofiler.com/article/zay-jones-advanced-stats-metrics-nfl-draft-profile/ttp://


Sounds like another Richie James type.

Is he more Richie James than Richie James was Richie James?

O.city 05-09-2024 08:19 AM

You always would like to layer rookies and young players with vets that atleast can step in and be where they're supposed to be I guess.

Lzen 05-09-2024 08:33 AM

I would not be opposed to signing him. Seems like a no brainer, assuming no major health issues.

RunKC 05-09-2024 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17514289)
You always would like to layer rookies and young players with vets that atleast can step in and be where they're supposed to be I guess.

They badly needed to raise the floor of the room. Hell last year MVS, Skyy and Toney had no floor. They sucked. Zay Jones had one bad year of drops and the rest were really solid. At this point that would be a breath of fresh air.

Did I mention he knows the offense playing with Doug?

They need to keep only 6 WR’s and have Toney, Skyy and the other battle it out for WR6. Unfortunately that won’t happen but it needs to.

DJ's left nut 05-09-2024 08:43 AM

I'd consider a deal at/near what OBJ got for him. Probably a little less than that, but honestly, Zay's been genuinely good more recently than OBJ has been. He's a little more advanced in the offense and has some slightly better size as well.

BigRedChief 05-09-2024 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17514313)
They badly needed to raise the floor of the room. Hell last year MVS, Skyy and Toney had no floor. They sucked. Zay Jones had one bad year of drops and the rest were really solid. At this point that would be a breath of fresh air.

Did I mention he knows the offense playing with Doug?

They need to keep only 6 WR’s and have Toney, Skyy and the other battle it out for WR6. Unfortunately that won’t happen but it needs to.

Because of possible injuries and or poor play of the WR's last year, I'd think the Chiefs will keep 7 WR's.

Dunerdr 05-09-2024 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17514325)
I'd consider a deal at/near what OBJ got for him. Probably a little less than that, but honestly, Zay's been genuinely good more recently than OBJ has been. He's a little more advanced in the offense and has some slightly better size as well.

He's been to see several teams. Is he a smart shopper or asking more than we expect?

O.city 05-09-2024 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17514313)
They badly needed to raise the floor of the room. Hell last year MVS, Skyy and Toney had no floor. They sucked. Zay Jones had one bad year of drops and the rest were really solid. At this point that would be a breath of fresh air.

Did I mention he knows the offense playing with Doug?

They need to keep only 6 WR’s and have Toney, Skyy and the other battle it out for WR6. Unfortunately that won’t happen but it needs to.

I just don't know what would happen between now and camp that would cause you to cut Moore or Toney if you haven't already decided to do it now.

So they're gonna be here.

DJ's left nut 05-09-2024 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17514329)
Because of possible injuries and or poor play of the WR's last year, I'd think the Chiefs will keep 7 WR's.

I think it's far less likely that they keep 7. Because doing so would effectively require that they keep at least 1 and possibly 2 of the guys that led to that shitshow.

If they keep 7 again, it's a bad sign. It means that they're far less confident in Brown/Worthy than we'd hoped.

Brown
Rice (Susp)
Worthy
Jones
Watson (STs)
Toney/Moore

Maybe if the Rice thing is sorted out before the season started they keep Toney AND Moore. Or if they don't sign Jones. But they're not signing Jones and keeping Moore and Toney PLUS Rice. If Rice starts the season active AND they sign Jones, I just don't see a way they keep Toney and Moore - that's what would have to happen to get to 7.

Keeping 7 just not a good idea at all, especially when only one of those guys has core special teams value; the other 2 would be return guys only. They'll need that roster spot for either a 4th TE or perhaps Safeties or LBs that can backfill for the special teams shortcomings of the back of the WR room.

DJ's left nut 05-09-2024 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17514364)
I just don't know what would happen between now and camp that would cause you to cut Moore or Toney if you haven't already decided to do it now.

So they're gonna be here.

Signing Zay Jones. You do that and there's no room for both of them.

Coogs 05-09-2024 09:29 AM

In one of Veach’s press conferences after the draft, he stressed keeping 10 or 11 O-linemen vs I believe what he said was 9 last year. I’m assuming that means WR will be going back to normal this year as well. 5, maybe 6.

The Franchise 05-09-2024 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17514367)
Signing Zay Jones. You do that and there's no room for both of them.

And they've talked about one of those guys while being completely silent about the other one.

DJ's left nut 05-09-2024 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17514372)
And they've talked about one of those guys while being completely silent about the other one.

If Moore were a 3rd day pick, he wouldn't have survived the entire season last year, IMO.

He's nothing but draft capital at this point. He's a sunk cost. They may be hoping they can salvage something from him the way they did with MEH (who is basically serviceable as an RB2, though you'd like to upgrade there). But if they're looking at bringing in Zay Jones, Moore is on borrowed time.

A summer ruling on the Rice suspension is all that will keep him on the roster at that point.

O.city 05-09-2024 09:43 AM

Just cut Moore now then.

I don't think they will but a Jones signing would be a good case for it. It also may mean they think Rice is out a while.

DJ's left nut 05-09-2024 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17514380)
Just cut Moore now then.

I don't think they will but a Jones signing would be a good case for it. It also may mean they think Rice is out a while.

Why?

To what benefit?

Oh sure, i think it's a foregone conclusion at that point, but what if Toney's leg gets bitten off by a crocodile or something. (Honestly, I'd just sign MVS and still cut Moore). Or what if Moore just comes into camp and is actually good?

There's just nothing gained by it.

The Franchise 05-09-2024 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17514380)
Just cut Moore now then.

I don't think they will but a Jones signing would be a good case for it. It also may mean they think Rice is out a while.

Why would they cut him now? Might as well carry him through camp and see if he's actually improved at all.

ToxSocks 05-09-2024 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17514380)
Just cut Moore now then.

I don't think they will but a Jones signing would be a good case for it. It also may mean they think Rice is out a while.

Moore is one Toney injury away from making the roster. C'mon now, Moore has value as a camp body at the very least. No way they cut him before the end of camp.

raybec 4 05-09-2024 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17514329)
Because of possible injuries and or poor play of the WR's last year, I'd think the Chiefs will keep 7 WR's.

I seriously doubt that. That's going to take a spot you'll need somewhere else. I can see 6 maybe

Mecca 05-09-2024 09:48 AM

Skyy Moore basically not playing specials could be a real problem for him, if he's in that WR 5 or 6 battle.


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