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pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2024 09:26 AM

So, what’s this Sneed trade gonna end up being?
 
Since we know this thing is coming down in the next few days.

What’s the predictions? Not what you want, but what you think the details end up being?

Bowser 03-10-2024 09:29 AM

What I WANT is pick 29 from the Lions.

What I feel we'll get is a pick in the 40's plus maybe a late rounder this year or a mid rounder in '25.

staylor26 03-10-2024 09:31 AM

I will be good with a top 50 pick.

Monticore 03-10-2024 09:33 AM

Teams know we have to trade him now hoping Bunt already had something in place so it doesn’t affect the value.

BWillie 03-10-2024 09:34 AM

I'm selfish and I'm okay with him playing on the tag as well. I kind of want to go all out to try to win a 3rd. It's never been done before. They would officially be the best team ever.

Obv I know he's going to get traded but a part of me is fine if he didn't. Pair his last year with the Chiefs with Travis Kelce's last useful year.

mr. tegu 03-10-2024 09:35 AM

So, what’s this Sneed trade gonna end up being?
 
I feel there will be a much bigger splash associated with this than people think. A first for Sneed for sure that is parlayed into a big trade up for a WR or somehow used to get a more established WR from elsewhere. They want the three peat and getting an impact receiver now is more important to that than an extra pick or two in this draft or next.

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17434783)
I will be good with a top 50 pick.

That or a package of picks with equivalent value.

Anything better than that is a Homerun.

Anything worse would be disappointing.

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17434788)
Teams know we have to trade him now hoping Bunt already had something in place so it doesn’t affect the value.

Yeah but those interested teams are competing with each other too

Monticore 03-10-2024 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17434796)
Yeah but those interested teams are competing with each other too

Ya as long as most are serious it should still work out .

DJ's left nut 03-10-2024 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17434788)
Teams know we have to trade him now hoping Bunt already had something in place so it doesn’t affect the value.

Doesn't matter for a player with a broad market.

Yes, Veach has to trade Sneed. He doesn't have to trade Sneed to YOU.

Needing to trade him means he's available and that's it. It doesn't mean you won't have to pay market rates for him in a competitive bidding situation. And that's what you're looking at with Sneed.

If there are truly 4-6 teams expressing strong interest in him, a top 50 pick and some change seems extremely likely.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2024 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17434782)
What I WANT is pick 29 from the Lions.

What I feel we'll get is a pick in the 40's plus maybe a late rounder this year or a mid rounder in '25.

If Detroit wants him badly enough that's what it's going to take. They don't have an early enough 2nd to get him without giving up a 2nd next year as well.

arrowheadnation 03-10-2024 09:51 AM

To the Falcons for Kyle Pitts and a 3rd rounder. This way he goes to a team where he doesn’t hurt us and we not only get Kelce’s successor but for a couple years Reid gets to play around with one of the scariest 2 TE sets in history.

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17434807)
Doesn't matter for a player with a broad market.

Yes, Veach has to trade Sneed. He doesn't have to trade Sneed to YOU.

Needing to trade him means he's available and that's it. It doesn't mean you won't have to pay market rates for him in a competitive bidding situation. And that's what you're looking at with Sneed.

If there are truly 4-6 teams expressing strong interest in him, a top 50 pick and some change seems extremely likely.

Yup. If Detroit or Houston thinks they’re a DB away from being serious contenders, it’s a dumb game of chicken to try and re-trade the Chiefs right now.

They have a window (Houston with a rookie QB and Detroit with a favorable NFC QB landscape) and an opportunity to snag an elite DB. Not smart to screw that up. Chiefs will just move on to the next team.

Coogs 03-10-2024 09:54 AM

I'm hoping the Lions interset in Sneed is real. I'm also hoping the flirting between Sneed and the Eagles is real too. If so on both counts, maybe we can snag the #22 pick from the Eagles. (Plus their compensation 6th rounder for their coach being a dick in our house)

Womble 03-10-2024 09:56 AM

Assuming the cap hit for Jones this year is negligible I would quite content to just play him on the tag. I think I'd rather that than trade him for a mid round second pick. Threepeat. Threepeat.

In58men 03-10-2024 10:01 AM

Sneed for pick #29 just makes a lot of sense. It also puts him in the NFC.

RunKC 03-10-2024 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17434807)
Doesn't matter for a player with a broad market.

Yes, Veach has to trade Sneed. He doesn't have to trade Sneed to YOU.

Needing to trade him means he's available and that's it. It doesn't mean you won't have to pay market rates for him in a competitive bidding situation. And that's what you're looking at with Sneed.

If there are truly 4-6 teams expressing strong interest in him, a top 50 pick and some change seems extremely likely.

Yes and I think it’s gonna happen in the next few days to clear that $19.8 million before the 3/13 deadline.

Man this off-season is so perfect for us. So many things falling our way.

-weak year for corner pushing Sneed’s value up
-deep QB class pushing talent down the board
-amazing WR class
-amazing OL class
-underrated DT class

This is gonna be a fun offseason

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17434839)
Sneed for pick #29 just makes a lot of sense. It also puts him in the NFC.

Detroit doesn’t have a rookie QB window, but the QB situation in the NFC is not good. It won’t be this way forever. Eventually there will be elite QBs in NFC.

I really think Detroit needs to go for it.

FloridaMan88 03-10-2024 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17434782)
What I WANT is pick 29 from the Lions.

That would be perfect… get a first round pick and send him to an NFC team.

Monticore 03-10-2024 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17434831)
Assuming the cap hit for Jones this year is negligible I would quite content to just play him on the tag. I think I'd rather that than trade him for a mid round second pick. Threepeat. Threepeat.

Then we lose him next year for nothing or tag him again and lose someone else if you can get a late 1 2and 5 etc this year I think it’s a no brainer

BigRedChief 03-10-2024 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17434847)
That would be perfect… get a first round pick and send him to an NFC team.

yeah, getting two top players in the draft with 5 years of control will help sustain this run.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-10-2024 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17434827)
I'm hoping the Lions interset in Sneed is real. I'm also hoping the flirting between Sneed and the Eagles is real too. If so on both counts, maybe we can snag the #22 pick from the Eagles. (Plus their compensation 6th rounder for their coach being a dick in our house)

I believe they have two ,2nd round picks ,like 51 and 53. Those might be in play .

wazu 03-10-2024 10:19 AM

Feels like I'm happy with just about anything that happens here. Top 50 pick, play on the tag, sign an extension, whatever. I think we get Pick 29 from the Lions. They have tons of cap space and it would be a massive gain for them. The whole league will melt down and it will be spectacular.

Titty Meat 03-10-2024 10:31 AM

3 & 5 with lots of unhappy posters

penguinz 03-10-2024 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17434848)
Then we lose him next year for nothing or tag him again and lose someone else if you can get a late 1 2and 5 etc this year I think it’s a no brainer

Same thing was said about Jones.

penguinz 03-10-2024 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17434876)
3 & 5 with lots of unhappy posters

Unless his knee is really ****ed up they'll get a 2nd for him.

Pablo 03-10-2024 10:42 AM

We are getting 29 boys. And then we are gonna package that pick and some others or something and get Brock Bowers.

I think that is a nice situation that the Chiefs both deserve and have earned the right to.

RedinTexas 03-10-2024 10:46 AM

We could probably get multiple 1st and 2nd round picks from Denver, but it doesn't seem like a respectful thing to do to Sneed. He's earned better than that.

wazu 03-10-2024 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17434890)
We are getting 29 boys. And then we are gonna package that pick and some others or something and get Brock Bowers.

I think that is a nice situation that the Chiefs both deserve and have earned the right to.

Our long suffering fan base could use a win like that. I think other fan bases would be happy for us.

staylor26 03-10-2024 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17434862)
I believe they have two ,2nd round picks ,like 51 and 53. Those might be in play .

Sneed and 64 for their 2 2nds sounds like a great deal.

Chiefaholic 03-10-2024 10:54 AM

For the best damn CB in the league, in his prime...... 1 and a 5 this draft, or a 2 this draft and a 3 next draft

crispystl 03-10-2024 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17434904)
Sneed and 64 for their 2 2nds sounds like a great deal.

Throw in Jameson Williams and it's a deal.

staylor26 03-10-2024 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17434911)
Throw in Jameson Williams and it's a deal.

Umm I'm talking about a trade with the Eagles lol.

crispystl 03-10-2024 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17434917)
Umm I'm talking about a trade with the Eagles lol.

Oh duh sorry.

Womble 03-10-2024 11:09 AM

Sneed and Skyy Moore for Jefferson!

KC_Connection 03-10-2024 11:10 AM

Hoping for a 1st round pick, expecting a 2nd round pick.

BossChief 03-10-2024 11:22 AM

Jameson and 29 for Sneed and conditional pick next year that can go from a third to a first based on Jamesons production. Like 800 yards and 5 tds makes it a 1…600 yards and 4 scores makes it a 2…any less and it’s a 3.

RunKC 03-10-2024 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17434904)
Sneed and 64 for their 2 2nds sounds like a great deal.

Which Eagles trade sounds better?

A. Sneed & 64 for 50 & 53

B. Sneed and 32 for 22 and 97

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17434939)
Which Eagles trade sounds better?

A. Sneed & 64 for 50 & 53

B. Sneed and 32 for 22 and 97

I’d take B

Valiant 03-10-2024 11:52 AM

I am good for 2025 1st. Gamble that the team sucks and turns into a top ten pick.

RealSNR 03-10-2024 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17434939)
Which Eagles trade sounds better?

A. Sneed & 64 for 50 & 53

B. Sneed and 32 for 22 and 97

I like picking 32. Reminds everybody who their daddy is.

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 17434969)
I am good for 2025 1st. Gamble that the team sucks and turns into a top ten pick.

It would be so funny if the Chiefs 3-peated then had the number 1 pick in the next draft.

Would Buffalo fans demand a draft lottery?

Nightfyre 03-10-2024 11:56 AM

I hope the two competing scenarios are like eagles 50 and 53 and Detroit at 29. Though with the number of holes emerging, the Eagles might rather send 22 than the two second round picks. Or maybe ATL is a surprise team. They have a ton of draft capital.

RealSNR 03-10-2024 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17434975)
It would be so funny if the Chiefs 3-peated then had the number 1 pick in the next draft.

Would Buffalo fans demand a draft lottery?

They absolutely would, not realizing that it opens the door for the Chiefs to get a higher draft pick EVERY year instead of just the years when they trade somebody

DJ's left nut 03-10-2024 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17434939)
Which Eagles trade sounds better?

A. Sneed & 64 for 50 & 53

B. Sneed and 32 for 22 and 97

A.

The value in this draft is in the top 15 or so and then again through the top 50. I'd rather have the value used to boost our late 2nd into the mid 2nd to get us 3 top 50 players at 32, 50 and 53.

Urc Burry 03-10-2024 12:07 PM

I think we’ll find out tonight.. Veach always has one big free agent target we don’t see coming. And I don’t think he wants to enter tampering period with no wiggle room.

I THINK he can draw that one. But to temper my expectations I’m going to be cool with a 2nd and a 4th.

If it’s just a late second from the lions or something similar I’ll be a bit disappointed, but knowing we got Jones locked up for sure it will be easier to deal with

Chris Meck 03-10-2024 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17434845)
Detroit doesn’t have a rookie QB window, but the QB situation in the NFC is not good. It won’t be this way forever. Eventually there will be elite QBs in NFC.

I really think Detroit needs to go for it.

No, but all of their weapons are on rookie deals. They've got a real tight window before they have to start making tough decisions.

BossChief 03-10-2024 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 17434969)
I am good for 2025 1st. Gamble that the team sucks and turns into a top ten pick.

In a vacuum, we all would.

But with a 3 peat on the line, the majority of the compensation would be this year.

We’re going to get more than we think for him if that Knee checks out medically.

When you have playoff teams with positional need and a desire to win now…along with non competing teams with lots of resources to try to get out of the slums…and a young 100% “shut down the opponents top WR every week” type guy…

That’s not a situation you only get a mid second rounder for.

I won’t be shocked if we get a late first AND a mid rounder next year for him.

The only thing keeping Sneed from being a complete unicorn is knee/concussion concerns that didn’t prevent him from shitting on every elite WR he faced.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-10-2024 12:11 PM

Watch Veach extend Sneed now

DJ's left nut 03-10-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17434996)
Watch Veach extend Sneed now

Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if he could. But there's a real question if he should.

We need to keep bringing in young talent, cost controlled talent. And if we could net another top 50 pick by moving him...boy that's hard to walk away from.

If you can't bring Jones back then he was necessary throughput. Now that we have...well, moving him seems like the smarter decision. It's actually been part of my calculus on the 'should we re-sign Jones' question. You don't re-sign Jones and extend Sneed instead, you get no additional draft capital.

You overpay a bit (IMO) to retain Jones but you move Sneed who likely could've been had at/near the same cost as Jaylon Jones...well, you at least get some draft capital to help offset the massive gap cap space.

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17435005)
Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if he could. But there's a real question if he should.

We need to keep bringing in young talent, cost controlled talent. And if we could net another top 50 pick by moving him...boy that's hard to walk away from.

If you can't bring Jones back then he was necessary throughput. Now that we have...well, moving him seems like the smarter decision. It's actually been part of my calculus on the 'should we re-sign Jones' question. You don't re-sign Jones and extend Sneed instead, you get no additional draft capital.

You overpay a bit (IMO) to retain Jones but you move Sneed who likely could've been had at/near the same cost as Jaylon Jones...well, you at least get some draft capital to help offset the massive gap cap space.

Agree with all this plus Veach/Spags have earned our unwavering trust with whatever they do in the secondary.

Drafting DBs so damn well makes moving Sneed possible.

BossChief 03-10-2024 12:30 PM

I don’t see a path to where we extend Sneed. I wish I did because last year was probably the best year any CB has had in a Chiefs uniform in my lifetime. We are just too good at developing DBs to not extract value to reallocate it at other positions of need when we have 2-3 guys that can step in and be solid at CB, but needs at other positions.

I can say 1 thing…

If you give Sneed a 5 year deal, you drop his cap hit this year and you can spend the whole draft on offense.

It would even up the flexibility to make some trade ups for a WR and a LT if they fall to within striking distance.

Nightfyre 03-10-2024 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17435005)
Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if he could. But there's a real question if he should.

We need to keep bringing in young talent, cost controlled talent. And if we could net another top 50 pick by moving him...boy that's hard to walk away from.

If you can't bring Jones back then he was necessary throughput. Now that we have...well, moving him seems like the smarter decision. It's actually been part of my calculus on the 'should we re-sign Jones' question. You don't re-sign Jones and extend Sneed instead, you get no additional draft capital.

You overpay a bit (IMO) to retain Jones but you move Sneed who likely could've been had at/near the same cost as Jaylon Jones...well, you at least get some draft capital to help offset the massive gap cap space.

Agreed. This draft is deep right at the sweet spot where we could get an asset for LJ. I LOVE LJ. But I ain't paying both him and Jones top of market deals, particularly when I can exchange one for cost-controlled talent of the magnitude available in the top 50 of this draft.

Dunerdr 03-10-2024 12:53 PM

Gonna be a low 2 and a 4.

RedinTexas 03-10-2024 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17435017)
I don’t see a path to where we extend Sneed. I wish I did because last year was probably the best year any CB has had in a Chiefs uniform in my lifetime. We are just too good at developing DBs to not extract value to reallocate it at other positions of need when we have 2-3 guys that can step in and be solid at CB, but needs at other positions.

Yes. Furthermore, to take full advantage of the the developing DBs, we have to move them up in the depth chart. Then, if/when they demonstrate superior abilities themselves, we get draft compensation when we lose them. It's a virtuous cycle from which we continue to reap benefits, but only if we keep that wheel turning.

Dunerdr 03-10-2024 01:04 PM

Gonna be a low 2 and a 4.

In58men 03-10-2024 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17435047)
Gonna be a low 2 and a 4.

We heard you the first time

Smed1065 03-10-2024 01:30 PM

I am crazy but Snead stays for 1 year anyway.

saphojunkie 03-10-2024 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17434788)
Teams know we have to trade him now hoping Bunt already had something in place so it doesn’t affect the value.

i thought the same thing this morning

and then I thought this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17434807)
Doesn't matter for a player with a broad market.

Yes, Veach has to trade Sneed. He doesn't have to trade Sneed to YOU.


Needing to trade him means he's available and that's it. It doesn't mean you won't have to pay market rates for him in a competitive bidding situation. And that's what you're looking at with Sneed.

If there are truly 4-6 teams expressing strong interest in him, a top 50 pick and some change seems extremely likely.


displacedinMN 03-10-2024 01:48 PM

are we going to lose him????

FlaChief58 03-10-2024 01:49 PM

There are a lot of teams showing interest in him. I wouldn't be shocked if Bart gets us a low 1st, high 2nd

FlaChief58 03-10-2024 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17435099)
are we going to lose him????

Yip

Dante84 03-10-2024 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17434975)
It would be so funny if the Chiefs 3-peated then had the number 1 pick in the next draft.

Would Buffalo fans demand a draft lottery?

And then we trade back to pick 4 and get 3 more firsts

stumppy 03-10-2024 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17434975)
It would be so funny if the Chiefs 3-peated then had the number 1 pick in the next draft.

Would Buffalo fans demand a draft lottery?

My life would be complete.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2024 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17434911)
Throw in Jameson Williams and it's a deal.

I'd take Williams and their late 2nd for Sneed.

Could be a way for Detroit to vault the value of their late 2nd ahead of teams in the middle of the round that would be pursuing him.

SD15 03-10-2024 02:31 PM

I know most people feel a second rounder is what he’ll yield, but why couldn’t this be a first rounder? I certainly think Sneed is worth it, shut down corner’s don’t grow on trees.

Bump 03-10-2024 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD15 (Post 17435159)
I know most people feel a second rounder is what he’ll yield, but why couldn’t this be a first rounder? I certainly think Sneed is worth it, shut down corner’s don’t grow on trees.

my only guess is that he's not a big jersey seller or very flashy

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD15 (Post 17435159)
I know most people feel a second rounder is what he’ll yield, but why couldn’t this be a first rounder? I certainly think Sneed is worth it, shut down corner’s don’t grow on trees.

For me, it’s that a team has to pay him too.

His talent is worth it, but that’s a lot of resources for one (non-QB/LT/Pass Rusher) player.

Coogs 03-10-2024 02:39 PM

My gosh there are a lot of folks on here who just don't think very highly of Sneed. Willing to give him away for a ham sandwich. :shake:

TLO 03-10-2024 02:44 PM

I really dislike the idea of losing Sneed, but it seems inevitable. I wouldn't mind Detroit's first round pick whatsoever. I also wouldn't mind a package of picks that gives us more opportunities to hit on a star player or ammo to move around the draft board as we see fit.

Coogs 03-10-2024 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17435101)
There are a lot of teams showing interest in him. I would be shocked if Bart gets us a low 1st, high 2nd

Would be shocked? Or wouldn't be shocked?

FlaChief58 03-10-2024 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17435193)
Would be shocked? Or wouldn't be shocked?

Wouldn't...

ThyKingdomCome15 03-10-2024 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17435010)
Agree with all this plus Veach/Spags have earned our unwavering trust with whatever they do in the secondary.

Drafting DBs so damn well makes moving Sneed possible.

Absolutely! Sneed was a day 3 pick and the Chiefs have other good looking day three CB's with capable ability. Veach has entered rarified air in finding these guys. This is one of many reasons why KC is the envy of the league.

displacedinMN 03-10-2024 03:29 PM

If we have to let him go, get a pick so we can get Cooper DeJean

The Franchise 03-10-2024 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17435136)
I'd take Williams and their late 2nd for Sneed.

Could be a way for Detroit to vault the value of their late 2nd ahead of teams in the middle of the round that would be pursuing him.

Fill a position of need AND get another 2nd round pick? Count me in.

kccrow 03-10-2024 03:44 PM

The trade I want is 22 and 50 from PHI for 32 and Sneed. That's comparable to getting a mid-2nd and mid-3rd value.

The trade I think will be Atlanta for 2-43, 6-186, and a 2025 4th.

I think it comes down to the medicals on Sneed's knee more than it does anything else. Everyone knows he's going to cost at least a 2nd rounder and they know they are going to have to pay him around 19 per.

scho63 03-10-2024 03:45 PM

I was hoping to see a Mahomes restructure to provide more cap space but I think that ship has sailed. :shrug:

kccrow 03-10-2024 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17435318)
I was hoping to see a Mahomes restructure to provide more cap space but I think that ship has sailed. :shrug:

They can do it at any point but they can only do it once. Veach isn't going to roll any more than he has to.

Chris Meck 03-10-2024 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17435318)
I was hoping to see a Mahomes restructure to provide more cap space but I think that ship has sailed. :shrug:

It almost certainly hasn't. They'll have to.

scho63 03-10-2024 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17435320)
They can do it at any point but they can only do it once. Veach isn't going to roll any more than he has to.

Didn't Brady restructure multiple times? :hmmm:


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