Chiefs moves this off-season (So far)
 

I normally like individual threads for discussion topics, but I've been quite busy over the past few weeks and haven't kept up on all the releases, signings?, etc.

Does anyone have a list we can just post in this thread to see what has happened so far?

There was another thread like this created but the OP didn't keep it up and it lacked info so it's fallen away.

We still have Reid and Mahomes, the rest is just fodder tbh.

A list of players and changes with KC's roster so far.

QB (3) - Patrick Mahomes, Shane Buechele, and Chris Oladokun
Retired – Chad Henne
RB/FB (3) - Isiah Pacheco, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, and La’Mical Perine,
FA – Jerick McKinnon, Michael Burton (signed with Broncos) and Ronald Jones (signed with Cowboys)
WR (9) - Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney. Justyn Ross, John Ross, Ty Fryfogle, Cornell Powell, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, and Jerrion Ealy.
FA - JuJu Smith-Schuster (signed with Patriots), Marcus Kemp (signed with Commanders), Justin Watson and Mecole Hardman (signed with Jets).
TE (6) - Travis Kelce, Noah Gray, Kendall Blanton, Matt Bushman, and Jody Fortson ERFA, Blake Bell (re-signed)
OL (10) - Creed Humphrey, Lucas Niang, Trey Smith, Joe Thuney, Darian Kennard, Mike Caliendo, Austin Reiter, Jawaan Taylor (signed from Jaquars, Nick Allegretti (re-signed from Chiefs), and Prince Tega Wanogho ERFA
FA - Orlando Brown Jr (signed with Bengals) and Andrew Wylie (signed with Commanders)
DE (5) - George Karlaftis, Charles Omenihu (signed from 49ers), Mike Danna, Malik Herring, and Joshua Kaindoh
FA – Frank Clark (Released), Carlos Dunlap
DT (6) - Chris Jones, Tershawn Wharton re-signed with Chiefs, Derrick Nnadi re-signed with Chiefs, Daniel Wise, and Danny Shelton, Byron Cowart (signed from Colts)
FA – Khalen Saunders (signed with Saints), Brandon Williams
LB (6) - Nick Bolton, Willie Gay Jr, Leo Chanel, Drue Tranquill (signed from Chargers), Jack Cochrane, and Cole Christiansen
FA – Darius Harris not tendered
CB (6) - L'Jarius Sneed, Trent McDuffie, Joshua Williams, Jaylen Watson. Decaprio Bootle, and Nazeeh Johnson
S (3) - Justin Reid, Bryan Cook, and Mike Edwards (signed from Buccaneers)
FA - Juan Thornhill (signed with Browns) and Deon Bush
ST (3) – K Harrison Butker, P Tommy Townsend RFA tendered, and LS James Winchester

Probably somebody I forgot

List of Kansas City Chiefs Coaching Changes

Erc Bieniemy - Offensive Coordinator signed with Commanders as OC.
Matt Nagy - Offensive Coordinator. Previously Senior offensive assistant and Quarterbacks.
Joe Bleymaier - Pass Game Coordinator. Previously Wide Receivers Coach
Barry Rubin - Head Strength and Conditioning Coach retired.
Ryan Reynolds - Head Strength and Conditioning / Director of Sports Science. Previously Assistant Strength and Conditioning.
Nick Cassetta - Asst. Strength and Conditioning. Previously Strength and Conditioning at NMSU.
Greg Lewis - Running Backs signed with Ravens as Wide Receiver Coach.
Todd Pinkston - Running backs. Previously Wide Receivers at Austin Peay.
Connor Embree - Wide receivers. Previously Offensive quality control.
Porter Ellett - Assistant Running Backs. Previously Offensive quality control.
David Girardi – Quarterbacks. Previously Pass Game Analyst / Assistant QBs.
Spencer Reid - Assistant Strength and Conditioning. Previously Assistant Strength and Conditioning at BYU.
Kevin Saxton - Offensive Assistant. Previously Co-OC/QBs at Benedict College.
Dan Williams - Offensive quality control/Assistant Quarterbacks. Previously Offensive assistant.

Clark Hunt, Brett Veach, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, and Travis Kelce and ten draft picks.

Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for

Thanks wilson8

My guess is that we add DL depth with a cheap vet or two, then hit it hard in the draft. A safety somewhat early wouldn’t be a bad idea.

I expect us to add an OT early in the draft. OL is otherwise pretty set.

I think we grab a vet WR and draft one early.

Really solid looking roster overall.

WR - JuJu gone, Hardman and Watson TBD. Obvious downgrade
OT - OBJ and Wylie gone. Taylor in. Pretty neutral
DE - Frank out, Charles O in. Upgrade.
LB - Tranquil is an upgrade over Harris.
S - Thornhill out, Edwards in. Edwards a year younger and a ball hawk. Upgrade.

Thanks Wilson, it sure makes it a lot easier to see the holes.

I agree we probably need a 4th S. I wouldn't be surprised to see Watson come back at WR and Nnadi for beef at DT. Both Ross guys at WR have my attention. John Ross is a burner with an injury history, but still a former 1st rounder. Justyn Ross is a big guy that had some health issues, but still looked pretty good in his 1st 2 years at Clemson.

There will have to be some changes here.
1. I really, really expect Jerick McKinnon to be re-signed but it is possible some team pays more money for him.
2. Andy will have to have a fullback and usually a veteran, but not a lot left on the fa market right now. I really wanted Samaje Perine to fill the roll of FB/ST/RB for KC but he signed with Broncos for two years, $7.5M, $3M fully guaranteed.
4. Ronald Jones is visiting the Dallas Cowboys today.
5. Other than McKinnon, I don't see the Chiefs signing a free agent running back now.
6. I expect Chiefs to fill the RB need with the draft. After the Isiah Pacheco low round draft success, I think KC tries that route again.

I have seen kccrow mention RB Xazavian Valladay from Arizona State and Wyoming a few times in his past draft mocks. Valladay did really well in the East-West Shrine Bowl. He has some really good college stats - https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...alladay-1.html yet many mock draft sites don't even list him as a draftable RB this year.

Completely agree. either a low-cost FA safety or a decent draft pick will be needed for the Chiefs.

I've read that Brett Veach was really high on Justin Watson in originally signing him to the Chiefs. The thing I did not like about Watson last year was his 44% catch rate. No better way to kill a drive than not making the catch.

I liked Derrick Nnadi but I felt like he gave very little effort last year. Not sure what was going on. He played in all games but only played 34% of defensive snaps. He also had his career low of 25 tackles.

It will be interesting to see what the Chiefs can get from Kadarius Toney, Justyn Ross, and John Ross. Any success we get from Ross and/or Ross is not expected but will be nice to see. The Chiefs trainers and medical staff will also have to try and keep them healthy.

Todd pinkston knows shit all about RB

We have to improve at DT. What do we do here?

Free Agent DTs
Shelby Harris SEA 31 years old
Derrick Nnadi KC 26 years old

I think we have to attack this with the draft.

Harris would be intriguing, but we wouldn't offer him much in terms of compensation.

I think McKinnon comes back on a smaller deal. It sucks for him not getting "paid", but such is the life of an NFL RB.

He spent 6 years as a wide receiver with Andy in Philadelphia. He was then an assistant coach under Andy in 2009 and has been WR coach for college team. I guess you don't have to have played the position to coach it.

I don't think you can get him on a much smaller deal. He made $1.035M salary and $152.5K on a roster bonus. I think the minimum is a little over $1.1M.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...ckinnon-14507/

$3M vet exception is likely earmarked for Jet.

Greg Lewis was an NFL WR.

What’s your point??

The whole Jones extension silence is puzzling. It sounds like it's a done deal and Chris is a happy camper. You'd think, under normal circumstances, we would have heard something about the deal and how much money was saved. But we all know Veach isn't a normal guy, so it may be a way to bargain down the asking price of a couple of players.

Exactly this. They "do" their big deals right before training camp. In all reality, those deals are done well ahead of time. If the team has $40M in cap space, they're going to have a hard time negotiating.

Patience. All is coming.

And I have a hard time seeing the team that is going to dethrone a healthy Chiefs team.

Um, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't necessarily have to get better at DT. We just can't fall back.

Check it out: is there a team in the AFC-W that boasts a top-5 running game? Maaaaaybe LVR with Josh Jacobs, but they haven't even been using him that way under McD.

Is there a legit AFC champion contender with a top-5 running game? BUF, no. CIN, no. JAX? Possible, but Doug Pederson isn't known for running the crap out of the ball either.

In the NFC all I see is either SF or PHI. And our defense handled both their run games very well with the likes of Nnadi, Saunders, Turk and Williams at DT.

I don't think KC necessarily has to get better with their DTs in 2023, just can't be worse. Am I crazy?

To clarify my earlier defensive tackle statement. I was not stating that defensive tackles have to be better from 2022’s roster. I am saying we have to be better than what we currently have on roster right now. We have four DTs and two of them were signed on Futures contracts. Not counting Chris Jones, that is not a strong defensive tackle lineup.

gotcha. My misunderstanding. And yeah, we do need to get at least one more DT from somewhere. Man, I wish we'd found a way to keep Khalen. I liked that guy.

can we get a list without all the currently rostered players?

It would have been nice to be able to keep Khalen Saunders at a team friendly contract.

The Saints did the voidable year contract to be able to pay more and kick the can down the road again as-far-as Cap dollars. It is a 3-year playing contract with an additional 3 voidable years added on. So far Brett Veach has not wanted to play that game. Saints have to do that to keep a team on the field.

Something else to consider about a Khalen Saunders long term contract. Saunders played for KC for four seasons and this year was his only season he did not miss games. In 2020 he played 3 games. In 2021 he played 7 games.

Sure! Here it is -

Why isn’t this in the OP?

Oh, I get it, from a purely rationally POV. But he made some nice plays for us, and well, he was just fun to watch, especially when he got up to full speed. Reminded me a little of the Tasmanian Devil.:)

LMAO

i should clarify - without the players ALREADY on the roster

He played well in a contract year.

Chiefs roster changes news.

QB - Retired – Chad Henne

RB/FB - La’Mical Perine added on a Futures contract. Jerick McKinnon still unsigned. Michael Burton signed with Broncos. Ronald Jones signed with Cowboys.

WR - JuJu Smith-Schuster signed with Patriots. Marcus Kemp signed with Commanders. Mecole Hardman signed with Jets. Justin Watson unsigned free agent.

TE - Kendall Blanton and Matt Bushman added on Futures contracts. Jody Fortson ERFA tendered. Blake Bell re-signed.

OL - Jawaan Taylor signed from Jaquars. Nick Allegretti re-signed from Chiefs. Prince Tega Wanogho ERFA tendered. Orlando Brown Jr signed with Bengals. Andrew Wylie signed with Commanders.

DE - Charles Omenihu signed from 49ers. Frank Clark released. Carlos Dunlap unsigned.

DT - Tershawn Wharton re-signed with Chiefs. Derrick Nnadi re-signed with Chiefs. Daniel Wise and Danny Shelton signed Futures contracts. Khalen Saunders signed with Saints. Brandon Williams unsigned. Byron Cowart signed from Colts.

LB - Drue Tranquill signed from Chargers. Darius Harris NOT tendered as a RFA.

CB - No changes

S - Mike Edwards signed from Buccaneers. Juan Thornhill signed with Browns. Deon Bush still unsigned.

ST - P Tommy Townsend RFA tendered.

Kemp signed with the Commanders.

Seems like the Chiefs haven't shown much interest in signing a veteran QB to compete with Buechele... looks like QB2 is his job and they'll maybe draft (or sign an undrafted free agent) developmental QB to put on the practice squad.

Good.

Yea money, veteran backup QB's aren't all that cheap.

Good for him. Maybe he'll stick as their 3 or 4. Probably 4, but hopefully it gets him more offensive snaps.

Thanks!

The Commanders have a really good receiving group...better than ours.

I'm only familiar with McLaurin, but I'm not shocked at this news. I guess Washington needs competent special teamers as well.

Their 1 last year was a WR...

Terry McLaurin
Jahan Dotson
Curtis Samuel
Dyami Brown

That's a pretty solid top 4.

very nice

Here you go. :p

Anybody else think that we have a legit top-10 secondary/LB corps? Somehow Veach really upgraded those rooms and didn't get bent over doing it. Pretty excited just to see what his plan is for the DL. I've said multiple times that we'll never see a top-5 D in KC, but depending on what moves Brett makes, we might get one in 2023. Heck, even f he just brought back the main guys from last year's DL, it would probably crack the top-5, I think.

Added DT Byron Cowart and TE Blake Bell to the roster list.