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Bob Dole 09-30-2020 03:09 PM

Barn Razing Advice
 
I have 16 acres where I intended to expire, but that didn’t work out. There’s a large barn on the property that as best I can tell was built in the 1930s, with thousands of board feet of old growth oak. I’m trying to tear it down and salvage the lumber, but this shit might as well be welded together. Everything I’ve seen so far is nailed, but holy shit. Anyone have any experience or advice on dismantling this thing without destroying the wood?

KS Smitty 09-30-2020 03:11 PM

PM Bob Dole.

Stay close to the nail and have good pry bars if doing it by hand.

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 03:13 PM

P.S. “Mexicans” is not a helpful response.

htismaqe 09-30-2020 03:14 PM

Amish. They probably built it so they're the only ones that can tear it apart.

scho63 09-30-2020 03:15 PM

Damn I so glad you didn't ask for an attorney's advice!

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KS Smitty (Post 15206261)
PM Bob Dole.

Stay close to the nail and have good pry bars if doing it by hand.

Not working. It’s insane. This thing is built like a warship. Hell, the center section has a raised wooden floor that’s tongue and groove. Crazy solid construction.

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15206276)
Amish. They probably built it so they're the only ones that can tear it apart.

We don’t have much of an Amish presence around here, so that’s not likely.

ptlyon 09-30-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15206276)
Amish. They probably built it so they're the only ones that can tear it apart.

Correct answer

ptlyon 09-30-2020 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15206291)
We don’t have much of an Amish presence around here, so that’s not likely.

Then I suggest a match

htismaqe 09-30-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15206291)
We don’t have much of an Amish presence around here, so that’s not likely.

There's a group of them somewhere. Otherwise, you'd be able to take down your barn. :D

2bikemike 09-30-2020 03:22 PM

Don't do it! Isn't it bad luck to tear down an old barn? I thought you were supposed to let them rot back into the earth?

tooge 09-30-2020 03:22 PM

good prybar, save as many boards as possible. I did the same to an 80 ish year old barn several years ago. I went out every evening with the plan to get 5-6 boards off. It took forever but I got it done. metal roof? That stuff will sell for $15 per sheet if it's weathered nicely

ptlyon 09-30-2020 03:25 PM

New idea - woodchucks

vailpass 09-30-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15206267)
P.S. “Mexicans” is not a helpful response.

Then I got nothin.

seclark 09-30-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 15206306)
good prybar, save as many boards as possible. I did the same to an 80 ish year old barn several years ago. I went out every evening with the plan to get 5-6 boards off. It took forever but I got it done. metal roof? That stuff will sell for $15 per sheet if it's weathered nicely

yeah, i'm guessing some will have to be destroyed to save the best parts.
chain saws and sledge hammers.
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Dartgod 09-30-2020 03:31 PM

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MIAdragon 09-30-2020 03:33 PM

Sell the demolition to a company that specializes reclaimed wood. These guys will travel quite a way for something like that. Then lawn chair it up with a Guinness, holding your check watching them do all the unpleasantries.

scho63 09-30-2020 03:36 PM

Go to Lancaster Pennsylvania, put up a sign on the road "Need Barn Builders" and then kidnap the first 20 Amish men who inquire.

Simple

htismaqe 09-30-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15206317)
New idea - woodchucks

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displacedinMN 09-30-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15206276)
Amish. They probably built it so they're the only ones that can tear it apart.

Ditto.

They can turn it into a casket. Dads was barnwood

ping2000 09-30-2020 03:47 PM

Bag of termites.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-30-2020 03:50 PM

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Hog's Gone Fishin 09-30-2020 03:57 PM

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Bob Dole 09-30-2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 15206306)
good prybar, save as many boards as possible. I did the same to an 80 ish year old barn several years ago. I went out every evening with the plan to get 5-6 boards off. It took forever but I got it done. metal roof? That stuff will sell for $15 per sheet if it's weathered nicely

One of my issues is that it’s 30 miles away, so I can’t really peck it to death.

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15206388)
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Watched that one before I posted here. Not really helpful beyond their custom pry bar.

Mr. Wizard 09-30-2020 04:35 PM

Yes, have done several in Oklahoma. Houses and barns. Do you have access to the exteriors wall from the interior or is it walled inside too?

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15206470)
Yes, have done several in Oklahoma. Houses and barns. Do you have access to the exteriors wall from the interior or is it walled inside too?

I’ve got inside access.

ping2000 09-30-2020 04:39 PM

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Mr. Wizard 09-30-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15206477)
I’ve got inside access.

You want to attack it from the inside. A good heavy board or rod and start beating the wood outward. If you let the board do the work and you are just swinging and aiming you will be amazed what you can accomplish. Better yet call your local ag teacher or football coach and offer to hire some young bucks and you supervise. Really the only issues are removing nails from the boards. It’s Shiit work. And making sure the barn is structurally sound after a certain point. Picture all of the walls off but the weight of the roof still there in a strong kansas wind. It’s not a bad idea to ask yourself..... “self” what do I really want to repurpose and what am I ok with burning. Get your good stuff and add diesel to the rest and let it burn. Don’t forget to call the fire dept.

eDave 09-30-2020 04:54 PM

Is there anything that would blow it up without the flames?

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15206495)
You want to attack it from the inside. A good heavy board or rod and start beating the wood outward. If you let the board do the work and you are just swinging and aiming you will be amazed what you can accomplish. Better yet call your local ag teacher or football coach and offer to hire some young bucks and you supervise. Really the only issues are removing nails from the boards. It’s Shiit work. And making sure the barn is structurally sound after a certain point. Picture all of the walls off but the weight of the roof still there in a strong kansas wind. It’s not a bad idea to ask yourself..... “self” what do I really want to repurpose and what am I ok with burning. Get your good stuff and add diesel to the rest and let it burn. Don’t forget to call the fire dept.

I started today on a wall of 10”x2”x20’ boards, and an 8 pound sledge didn’t do jack. It seriously feels like that shit is welded.

Surveying it today, I think I’m good taking down walls and floors, structurally. There’s a serious quantity of that good stuff to get some $$ out of it.

ping2000 09-30-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15206505)
Is there anything that would blow it up without the flames?

No.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a8fea1e12b.jpg

Mr. Wizard 09-30-2020 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15206521)
I started today on a wall of 10”x2”x20’ boards, and an 8 pound sledge didn’t do jack. It seriously feels like that shit is welded.

Surveying it today, I think I’m good taking down walls and floors, structurally. There’s a serious quantity of that good stuff to get some $$ out of it.

It IS welded. Those nails have rusted themselves to the wood and the wood has expanded itself into the nails. Here is another idea if you have electricity and or a generator. A handheld air hammer or electric hammer with a big flat end will do wonders. Place it against the stud and alternate sides. It’s quite amazing. If that’s not an option you can also section the barn.
Get a chainsaw or sawsall and cut sections out studs and all. This is by far the fastest way to salvage.

Shiver Me Timbers 09-30-2020 05:19 PM

Keep us posted on your progress. I sell that kind of stuff frequently. Supplied a job in the Mountains with reclaimed Chestnut beams "chopped" up for for flooring. Dude paid a kings ransom for the stuff. We were estimating the timbers were over 200 years old.

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15206554)
It IS welded. Those nails have rusted themselves to the wood and the wood has expanded itself into the nails. Here is another idea if you have electricity and or a generator. A handheld air hammer or electric hammer with a big flat end will do wonders. Place it against the stud and alternate sides. It’s quite amazing. If that’s not an option you can also section the barn.
Get a chainsaw or sawsall and cut sections out studs and all. This is by far the fastest way to salvage.

I have a generator. That may be the best option.

Shiver Me Timbers 09-30-2020 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15206554)
It IS welded. Those nails have rusted themselves to the wood and the wood has expanded itself into the nails. Here is another idea if you have electricity and or a generator. A handheld air hammer or electric hammer with a big flat end will do wonders. Place it against the stud and alternate sides. It’s quite amazing. If that’s not an option you can also section the barn.
Get a chainsaw or sawsall and cut sections out studs and all. This is by far the fastest way to salvage.

I agree with Wizard. It is much faster to section off and then salvage. Your burn pile might be a bit larger but you end up with material that is easier to organize, inventory and sell.

Mr. Wizard 09-30-2020 06:04 PM

Then you can sell the wood in full sections. You don’t have to take the wood off the studs just sell the whole section. 4x8. 8x8. Whatever size you can salvage. If I had to do another salvage this is the only way I would do it. Harvest sections.

eDave 09-30-2020 06:15 PM

Can you drill out the nails? maybe cut all the wood out you can and leave the framing. Hopefully it's just the ends of the boards.

Rain Man 09-30-2020 06:17 PM

It's nailed? Well, this is easy if you know someone with a really big MRI machine.

Shiver Me Timbers 09-30-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15206651)
Then you can sell the wood in full sections. You don’t have to take the wood off the studs just sell the whole section. 4x8. 8x8. Whatever size you can salvage. If I had to do another salvage this is the only way I would do it. Harvest sections.

I worked with an architect and builder 10 years ago on a job in Aspen. The architect hired a demo guy (Owner paid for it) who gave him a list of salvageable fiber on 2 barns in ohio. he designed a house around that list. They used 30% of all the material. The rest of it went back to the salvage guy who credited it back for 20c on the dollar. My end of the deal was to supply the structural timbers (we had to distress and make look 100 years old) that needed structurally graded and stamped.

Find the right customer and wood out of an old barn is like finding a stash of gold.

Shiver Me Timbers 09-30-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15206670)
It's nailed? Well, this is easy if you know someone with a really big MRI machine.

We use a hand held metal scanner. Our mill shop does not like old wood going thru their molder with nails in it

Bob Dole 09-30-2020 06:57 PM

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My phone photos are too large. Let’s try this.

Easy 6 09-30-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KS Smitty (Post 15206261)
PM Bob Dole.

First post thread KILLER

!!! LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO !!!

How in the hell does THIS not have 500 green thumbs?

Mr. Wizard 09-30-2020 07:03 PM

Ok I will give you my last secret. After you have sectioned out the peices you want get a 3/8 “ hole saw and drill around the nails. You can literally do a barn a day doing this and the holes give it character.

Mr. Wizard 09-30-2020 07:42 PM

Ok I will give you one more. It’s been a while since we did this and my memory is not what it used to be. After sectioning the barn and taking away your peices cut half way through your corners then hook on with a chain or rope and pull them out til she comes down. That will give you the opportunity to harvest more lumber safely. Also it makes for a safer burn. Good luck.

LiveSteam 09-30-2020 11:05 PM

50 gallon barrel of Tannerite.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 10-01-2020 07:27 AM

I think you rent it out for weddings until someone buys it as is.

TimeForWasp 10-01-2020 08:06 AM

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I helped my dad tear down a barn long ago. These slide hammer nail pullers are a life saver.

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Bob Dole 10-01-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15206770)
Ok I will give you my last secret. After you have sectioned out the peices you want get a 3/8 “ hole saw and drill around the nails. You can literally do a barn a day doing this and the holes give it character.

I just picked up a 1/2” hole saw that I think will go around the nail heads. I’ve got all the drill batteries on charge and ready to go try it out in the morning. Pretty pumped that this will work best.

big nasty kcnut 10-01-2020 04:14 PM

Germans?

Shiver Me Timbers 10-01-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15208504)
I just picked up a 1/2” hole saw that I think will go around the nail heads. I’ve got all the drill batteries on charge and ready to go try it out in the morning. Pretty pumped that this will work best.

Right on!
Keep us posted. Let me know what "inventory" you end up with. Might be interested.

eDave 10-01-2020 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15208504)
I just picked up a 1/2” hole saw that I think will go around the nail heads. I’ve got all the drill batteries on charge and ready to go try it out in the morning. Pretty pumped that this will work best.

Brilliant.

Bob Dole 10-01-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 15208692)
Right on!
Keep us posted. Let me know what "inventory" you end up with. Might be interested.

I’ve got 8 20’x10” planks on the first wall,plus another 8’x10”. I’m hoping this works!

Shiver Me Timbers 10-01-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15208718)
I’ve got 8 20’x10” planks on the first wall,plus another 8’x10”. I’m hoping this works!

Are they 2" thick? (2"x10"x20').
send me pics.

I will pm you my email address
Your message box is full. cannot leave PM

KS Smitty 10-01-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 15208727)
Are they 2" thick? (2"x10"x20').
send me pics.

I will pm you my email address
Your message box is full. cannot leave PM

ROFL

Shiver Me Timbers 10-01-2020 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KS Smitty (Post 15208736)
ROFL

smitty finding humor in ones frustration
Must have gone to KU

ROYC75 10-01-2020 06:47 PM

That old lumber back in the day was a rough cut order straight from the mill, that stuff was green when it was put in, meaning those nails are not going to budge much at all now, especially if it was hard wood, like oak or hickory.

Bob Dole 10-01-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 15208727)
Are they 2" thick? (2"x10"x20').
send me pics.

I will pm you my email address
Your message box is full. cannot leave PM

When I can get them loose I will PM pics

Bob Dole 10-01-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15208849)
That old lumber back in the day was a rough cut order straight from the mill, that stuff was green when it was put in, meaning those nails are not going to budge much at all now, especially if it was hard wood, like oak or hickory.

It is all rough cut. And old growth. This bitch won’t beat me.

ROYC75 10-01-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15208883)
It is all rough cut. And old growth. This bitch won’t beat me.

My house was built like this back in the day, in the basement when I done some renovations I've had to use a drill, could not nail anything into it. Word of wise, my drill bits went dull pretty quickly.

Since you are taking this out, my recommendation is a chain saw, just have plenty of sharpened spare chains on hand, even they will dull pretty quick, but you will finish the job a damn faster!

Shiver Me Timbers 10-01-2020 07:08 PM

All the advice Bob Dole is getting-
We will see a video of a barn being burnt to the ground shortly.

Pig roast in Texarkana!

srvy 10-01-2020 11:45 PM

I have never disassebled a barn but have helped build a few. My theory is you need a heavier sledge. I have found there is nothing much that wins against a 12 pounder but will plumb tucker you out fast. Also the amount of salvageable boards will be nill.

ROYC75 10-02-2020 10:02 AM

Curiously a waiting the results!

MahiMike 10-02-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15206267)
P.S. “Mexicans” is not a helpful response.

I'd say it's the only response. That sounds like a young man's job.

Mr. Wizard 10-02-2020 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15208698)
Brilliant.

Thanks!

Mr. Wizard 10-02-2020 08:17 PM

How did the hole saw work? I forgot to tell you how much of a bitch it can be getting the plug out of the bit ! That’s why I would section everything with a chainsaw and sell it by sections.

HonestChieffan 10-02-2020 08:23 PM

Amish in Bates/Vernon and Henry counties do it and do it right

mlyonsd 10-02-2020 08:25 PM

Where are the ****ing pics.

MOhillbilly 10-02-2020 08:48 PM

Insurance fire


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