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TLO 11-13-2019 10:04 AM

Jury Duty
 
I've been selected for Jury Duty! Hooray!

Is there any way to know if I'll actually have to report besides calling the hotline number the night before?

I ask because I have quite the busy week at work next week, and it would be very beneficial to know if I'm going to need to report or not. (Those nuggets at McDonald's aren't going to fry themselves!!)

My online research has failed me.

Any help appreciated.

TLO 11-13-2019 10:05 AM

I've also seen that I can apply for a postponement. I may go that route.

Jewish Rabbi 11-13-2019 10:05 AM

The best way to get out of jury duty is to call in and tell them you’ve had the Ubeja Vontells all night long.

MahiMike 11-13-2019 10:06 AM

I always just tell them I have an issue w/how the law is written. They will excuse you.

Seems I always got selected when I was self employed and every hour counted. As an employee, it's a paid day off...

ptlyon 11-13-2019 10:07 AM

Pretty sure it depends on your system. Up here we are notified by the pony express.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 10:10 AM

Hopefully it’s Monday and you can take your jury buddy fat Andy with you. Tell them he is your service walrus.

DaFace 11-13-2019 10:11 AM

They don't actually make the selections until the day before (cases can be settled up until the last minute), so no, there's no way to know if you have to report except by calling the number.

You can ask for postponement, but just be very careful if you go that route. It's possible that, by playing that card now, they'll refuse to let you out of it next time no matter what. You don't want to miss something really important in the future because you felt a little busy right now.

TLO 11-13-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14593694)
Hopefully it’s Monday and you can take your jury buddy fat Andy with you. Tell them he is your service walrus.

It is Monday, actually.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14593700)
It is Monday, actually.

Team might be in luck.

arrowheadnation 11-13-2019 10:15 AM

I'm in the middle of a jury duty cycle right now (in my county you are on call for 4 weeks). I have avoided it 2 of the 4 weeks so far. I've heard that if you want to get out of it that you're supposed to tell the judge that you're physically attracted to one of the people involved...lol.

notorious 11-13-2019 10:16 AM

I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?

TLO 11-13-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14593697)
They don't actually make the selections until the day before (cases can be settled up until the last minute), so no, there's no way to know if you have to report except by calling the number.

You can ask for postponement, but just be very careful if you go that route. It's possible that, by playing that card now, they'll refuse to let you out of it next time no matter what. You don't want to miss something really important in the future because you felt a little busy right now.

We have an audit starting Monday of next week. (The day I'm scheduled to report). I suppose I could roll the dice and hope I'm not selected - but I feel like the postponement might be a safer bet.

I looked on Missouri Case Net and saw at least 2 trials scheduled for Monday. Not sure if that actually has any meaning or not.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14593708)
I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?

Jury Foreman material

notorious 11-13-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14593711)
Jury Forman material

LMAO

ptlyon 11-13-2019 10:18 AM

Pro tip: If you are questioned by the legal teams, always answer truthfully. And try to slip in there somehow that you always vote no to all the judges in an election.

CrookedTrump 11-13-2019 10:19 AM

I learned to always postpone and select a date closest to Christmas. I never got the exact day I selected but 4 out of the 4 times I did this I didn't have to report. I have ulcerative colitis so now I am permantly excused.

chiefforlife 11-13-2019 10:20 AM

This is funny because I too was selected for jury duty. I forgot to call Monday night so I have no idea if I was selected or if I will get in trouble for not calling?

TLO 11-13-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 14593720)
This is funny because I too was selected for jury duty. I forgot to call Monday night so I have no idea if I was selected or if I will get in trouble for not calling?

Ummm.. You should probably call them.

ptlyon 11-13-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CrookedTrump (Post 14593718)
I learned to always postpone and select a date closest to Christmas. I never got the exact day I selected but 4 out of the 4 times I did this I didn't have to report. I have ulcerative colitis so now I am permantly excused.

Matches the moniker

Flying High D 11-13-2019 10:23 AM

Penis tip: wear Chiefs gear, prosecution will think you’re a dumbass and scratch you.

Yosef_Malkovitch 11-13-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14593708)
I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?


It really depends on the judge. One might roll his/her eyes and decide it's too much trouble, and excuse you. Another one might get upset and threaten to hold you in contempt if you follow through--although it might be tough proving that you *deliberately* voted against the process rather than simply voting according to your genuine belief.

Of course, even if they cannot ultimately prove that you are in contempt, the process would be a pain. It might be easier to just say that you have an issue with the law itself, and you will try to encourage "jury nullification" due to your genuine beliefs on the matter.

Discuss Thrower 11-13-2019 10:25 AM

Two words: jury nullification

chiefforlife 11-13-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14593723)
Ummm.. You should probably call them.

I figure there is a really good chance my number wasnt called and they will leave me alone.

TLO 11-13-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 14593740)
I figure there is a really good chance my number wasnt called and they will leave me alone.

:shrug:

Shoes 11-13-2019 10:46 AM

Tell them that you are very excited for jury duty because you can tell if someone is guilty by just looking at them- you'll get dismissed right away.

digger 11-13-2019 10:49 AM

Last time I was called, (every other year for 20 years).
A kind police officer left himself in the pool. (and should have been excluded.)

When asked if he knew the defendant he spoke up with a reply (I shit you not),"Not for this case but for another one."
Talk about a poison Jury pool...lol

Spott 11-13-2019 10:54 AM

I got selected for jury duty a few years ago and actually enjoyed it. It helps that I get paid time off through my employer for jury duty, so I purposely got selected as a juror to stick it to my boss. I just got a survey for federal jury duty in Florida so I don’t what’s involved with that if they end up having me come in.

Skyy God 11-13-2019 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14593676)
I've been selected for Jury Duty! Hooray!

Is there any way to know if I'll actually have to report besides calling the hotline number the night before?

I ask because I have quite the busy week at work next week, and it would be very beneficial to know if I'm going to need to report or not. (Those nuggets at McDonald's aren't going to fry themselves!!)

My online research has failed me.

Any help appreciated.

Tell the attorneys in voir dire you’re a big fan of jury nullification.

Skyy God 11-13-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14593731)
Two words: jury nullification

Beat me to it.

Primer for everyone’s edification:

https://medium.com/@Rmcortes/jury-in...d-f9c40b587a8b

Buehler445 11-13-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14593710)
We have an audit starting Monday of next week. (The day I'm scheduled to report). I suppose I could roll the dice and hope I'm not selected - but I feel like the postponement might be a safer bet.

I looked on Missouri Case Net and saw at least 2 trials scheduled for Monday. Not sure if that actually has any meaning or not.

Your job should have a policy for jury duty.

I’d be sure to tell everyone involved bosses auditors whatever about it. Like right now.

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 14593720)
This is funny because I too was selected for jury duty. I forgot to call Monday night so I have no idea if I was selected or if I will get in trouble for not calling?

Do it. Dad spaced it one time and the sheriff showed up at the farm looking for him. My grandma was pissed. LOL.

Buehler445 11-13-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14593708)
I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?

I think In most cases if you have material hardship they’ll excuse you.

Best thing is to go to the court ahead of time and explain rather than drop bombs in the selection.

scho63 11-13-2019 11:24 AM

Call them up and tell them you need to attend a Ku Klux Klan meeting that day and need a note from the court to show you are on jury duty.

frozenchief 11-13-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14593708)
I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?

In most places, a financial hardship excuses jurors. Self employment is considered a financial hardship. In some jurisdictions you could contact the jury clerk, advise you are self employed and be excused. In others, you have to go to court and tell the judge, who excuses you. Check with your jury clerk if you’re summoned.

BryanBusby 11-13-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14593867)
Call them up and tell them you need to attend a Ku Klux Klan meeting that day and need a note from the court to show you are on jury duty.

Gotta be careful in some areas. In Mississippi, that could possibly be a bonus.

Tell them you got a Black Panther meeting to organize.

dmahurin 11-13-2019 11:51 AM

In the interview process just say that you are a fan of and believe in jury nullification. Immediate dismissal.

edit: I replied before reading the other people who also said this.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 11:54 AM

Tell them you parked your septic tank pumping truck out front and it has seal leak on the tank.

Dartgod 11-13-2019 11:55 AM

I've been summoned for jury duty once in my life. I wasn't selected either.

I probably just jinxed myself.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 11:58 AM

Tell them you’re a Chiefs fan. They’ll think your life is ****ed up enough and dismiss you.

FloridaMan88 11-13-2019 12:02 PM

Last time I was called to jury duty, I was actually selected to be in the pre-trial potential juror interview process by the attorneys.

It was a DUI case and the judge said they were going to try to proceed with the trial “through the evening” (it was already almost 5 p.m.)

Not wanting to be stuck in a trial “through the evening”, I made sure to disqualify myself as a potential juror.

When they asked me if I could make an impartial judgement in this DUI case I said no because I love to drink and alcohol is an important part of my life.

I didn’t get selected for the trial so I guess my efforts were successful.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14593999)
Last time I was called to jury duty, I was actually selected to be in the pre-trial potential juror interview process by the attorneys.

It was a DUI case and the judge said they were going to try to proceed with the trial “through the evening” (it was already almost 5 p.m.)

Not wanting to be stuck in a trial “through the evening”, I made sure to disqualify myself as a potential juror.

When they asked me if I could make an impartial judgement in this DUI case I said no because I love to drink and alcohol is an important part of my life.

I didn’t get selected for the trial so I guess my efforts were successful.

Would been really successful if you would of been Otis level drunk when you said it.

2bikemike 11-13-2019 12:43 PM

I have never ever received a jury notice! :shrug::D

Buehler445 11-13-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 14594097)
I have never ever received a jury notice! :shrug::D

If your luck is anything like mine there will be a notice in your mailbox when you get home.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 14594097)
I have never ever received a jury notice! :shrug::D

Ever registered to vote?

notorious 11-13-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14593988)
Tell them you’re a Chiefs fan. They’ll think your life is ****ed up enough and dismiss you.

If you tell them you are a Raider fan, they’ll respond,”See you soon!”

Lzen 11-13-2019 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14593999)
Last time I was called to jury duty, I was actually selected to be in the pre-trial potential juror interview process by the attorneys.

It was a DUI case and the judge said they were going to try to proceed with the trial “through the evening” (it was already almost 5 p.m.)

Not wanting to be stuck in a trial “through the evening”, I made sure to disqualify myself as a potential juror.

When they asked me if I could make an impartial judgement in this DUI case I said no because I love to drink and alcohol is an important part of my life.

I didn’t get selected for the trial so I guess my efforts were successful.

Almost 5pm? Geez, what time did this all start? Our jury pools here start first thing in the morning.

KS Smitty 11-13-2019 04:03 PM

I've been called for district court jury duty a few times and was selected 2 different times. I got lucky in that both trials only took that day. I was also called for federal jury duty when Bob Stephen was being tried for being a crooked politician, got out of that by honestly answering that I have a distrust of politicians and he was probably guilty.

I don't understand why people want to get out of jury duty, it's probably the biggest privilege Americans have, to be tried in front of a jury of your peers. If regular folks skip out of jury duty who's going to be deciding the fate of those charged with crimes?

Of course a lot of you could just send your posts on here to the judge and get immediately excused. :p

Simply Red 11-13-2019 04:12 PM

Tell them you have - Nausea+heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach..................


Diarrheaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

MahiMike 11-13-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14593708)
I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?

I've tried that one too and it worked. The judge let me go.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-13-2019 06:28 PM

I got off several times by calling in and telling them my feed mill manager was on vacation in Mexico and if I missed work then 17000 hogs would go hungry. Thus Animal neglect/cruelty.

PunkinDrublic 11-13-2019 06:43 PM

I was selected for jury duty in Dallas county in 2017. This woman was accessory to armed robbery of a quick trip. The robbers snatched one of the victims purse. It just so happened the victims purse had a cell phone connected to some headphones. The victim was on the phone with a friend at the time of the robbery. The person on the other end of the phone had the presence of mind to use her sons phone to call the cops and they were easily able to ping the location of the criminals.

The defense tried to argue that the robbers forced this woman at gunpoint to be their getaway driver, but when you listen to the call, the robbers and this lady can all be heard whooping it up and laughing about it in the getaway car.

Anyway it was her second offense for armed robbery. There was a minimum sentence of 10 years and we ended up giving her 30 years. I missed a week of work and got 12 bucks a day.

It was an interesting experience and I’m glad I did it.

2112 11-13-2019 06:53 PM

If you’re a petit juror always wait until the absolute last second to answer the questionnaire. I have never been picked doing that (always excuses the day before when I called)

Frazod 11-13-2019 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 14594097)
I have never ever received a jury notice! :shrug::D

I haven't either, and I am registered to vote. Of course, I was a court reporter in the Navy, so God knows I've spent enough time in a court room. I figure it'll happen eventually, but hasn't so far.

I would imagine I'd get kicked off by defense counsel rather quickly, though. I plan on bringing a shoelace with me and fashioning a noose out of it while answering their questions about my thoughts regarding crime and punishment. :)

2112 11-13-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14594850)
I haven't either, and I am registered to vote. Of course, I was a court reporter in the Navy, so God knows I've spent enough time in a court room. I figure it'll happen eventually, but hasn't so far.

I would imagine I'd get kicked off by defense counsel rather quickly, though. I plan on bringing a shoelace with me and fashioning a noose out of it while answering their questions about my thoughts regarding crime and punishment. :)

I get it every four years. Only been called twice (both times I answered the questionnaire too quickly lol) 1995 criminal trial (a pedophile/incest case involving an Egyptian family) I got called up and put in the box and the judge asked me if I had any issues with this case. I said yes, I was fraudulently sued by a foreigner (judge smiles and says thank you, you’re excused)

Coyote 11-13-2019 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14594850)
I haven't either, and I am registered to vote. Of course, I was a court reporter in the Navy, so God knows I've spent enough time in a court room. I figure it'll happen eventually, but hasn't so far.

I would imagine I'd get kicked off by defense counsel rather quickly, though. I plan on bringing a shoelace with me and fashioning a noose out of it while answering their questions about my thoughts regarding crime and punishment. :)

Yeah probably would work. I was once picked for federal court and was promptly thrown off due my background during voir dire by the defense.

Frazod 11-13-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 14594859)
I get it every four years. Only been called twice (both times I answered the questionnaire too quickly lol) 1995 criminal trial (a pedophile/incest case involving an Egyptian family) I got called up and put in the box and the judge asked me if I had any issues with this case. I said yes, I was fraudulently sued by a foreigner (judge smiles and says thank you, you’re excused)

Every four years? Jesus. You've got civic duty coming out your ass. :D

When I was younger I moved around a lot, so I figured that was the main reason I was never called. But I've lived in the same place for nearly 19 years now, and still.... nothing.

(knocks on wood)

Chiefshrink 11-13-2019 07:18 PM

Do you have a friend who is a Medical Dr.? Have him write you a pre-excused abscence due to mental health(depression) reasons. Tell them you are right in the middle of "shock therapy".:D

2112 11-13-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14594867)
Every four years? Jesus. You've got civic duty coming out your ass. :D

When I was younger I moved around a lot, so I figured that was the main reason I was never called. But I've lived in the same place for nearly 19 years now, and still.... nothing.

(knocks on wood)

Yes, I’ve lived in this god forsaken shit hole for my entire life lol that’s gotta be it.

Is it a veteran/military thing? Not being called? It might be

Frazod 11-13-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 14594863)
Yeah probably would work. I was once picked for federal court and was promptly thrown off due my background during voir dire by the defense.

You'd think anybody with my background would get kicked off fairly quickly, but you never know. I know our justice system has plenty of problems, but for the most part, if you're there, you're guilty. That's certainly been my experience.

Back in my Navy days, acquittals almost never happened (if you think you're ****ed as a defendant in the real world, you're quadruple ****ed in a military court). IIRC the conviction rate was above 99%. If you **** up badly enough to warrant an actual court martial, that basically means that your commanding officer, the guy who wants to send you to jail, personally selects the jury pools. And he's not likely to fill those panels with bleeding hearts and chaplains. During the three years I was stationed at the Legal Service Office at Great Lakes, three guys were found not guilty. There was this one guy who was accused of dealing drugs. He fought it, and loudly and effectively proclaimed his innocence, and based mainly on the strength of his testimony was acquitted.

After the trial, one of my buddies ran into him at a local bar, and he admitted that he was guilty as ****. Weasel level = 100. :D

So my default position is guilty or you wouldn't be there. It would take a lot to shake that.

Frazod 11-13-2019 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 14594888)
Yes, I’ve lived in this god forsaken shit hole for my entire life lol that’s gotta be it.

Is it a veteran/military thing? Not being called? It might be

I can't imagine that it would be, but who knows? I'm certainly not going to ask them. LMAO

Chiefshrink 11-13-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14594895)
You'd think anybody with my background would get kicked off fairly quickly, but you never know. I know our justice system has plenty of problems, but for the most part, if you're there, you're guilty. That's certainly been my experience.

Back in my Navy days, acquittals almost never happened (if you think you're ****ed as a defendant in the real world, you're quadruple ****ed in a military court). IIRC the conviction rate was above 99%. If you **** up badly enough to warrant an actual court martial, that basically means that your commanding officer, the guy who wants to send you to jail, personally selects the jury pools. And he's not likely to fill those panels with bleeding hearts and chaplains. During the three years I was stationed at the Legal Service Office at Great Lakes, three guys were found not guilty. There was this one guy who was accused of dealing drugs. He fought it, and loudly and effectively proclaimed his innocence, and based mainly on the strength of his testimony was acquitted.

After the trial, one of my buddies ran into him at a local bar, and he admitted that he was guilty as ****. Weasel level = 100. :D

So my default position is guilty or you wouldn't be there. It would take a lot to shake that.

Frazod the "Hangin Judge" !!!!!:D

Frazod 11-13-2019 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 14594897)
Frazod the "Hangin Judge" !!!!!:D

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ViDyv13D9HQQ/source.gif

Coyote 11-13-2019 07:41 PM

Roger all. I was a legal officer in my first squadron and at Office Hours/ Captains Mast my SGTMAJ would loudly summon the accused with:”March that Guilty Bastard in and let the wheels of justice spin.”

Your approach. Later as a Convening Authority, when presented with Art.32 Investigations, I. always heard SGTMAJ in my head.

TLO 11-13-2019 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 14594913)
Roger all. I was a legal officer in my first squadron and at Office Hours/ Captains Mast my SGTMAJ would loudly summon the accused with:”March that Guilty Bastard in and let the wheels of justice spin.”

Your approach. Later as a Convening Authority, when presented with Art.32 Investigations, I. always heard SGTMAJ in my head.

I have no idea what anything you just said means, but I'm slightly aroused.

rtmike 11-13-2019 09:00 PM

54 years old and got the notice last week.
First day this week being a holiday I thought might mess with trials, lol.
But seeings how I’m in group #2, it was inevitable.
Groups 2,6 and 300 for tomorrow.

They ain’t gonna want some dude ina wheelchair getting in everybodies way.

I’ll let everyone know about my escapade, lol.

Frazod 11-13-2019 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14594966)
I have no idea what anything you just said means, but I'm slightly aroused.

Office Hours/Captain's Mast = Non-Judicial Punishment (lower level violations)

Convening Authority = the commanding officer of the accused's unit, who refers the accused to the desired level of punishment.

Article 32 Investigation = military equivalent of a grand jury. Necessary to refer an accused for a general court martial. General court martial can award a dishonorable discharge, and a conviction is a felony.

A special court martial can be convened by the convening authority directly. It can award a bad conduct discharge, and a conviction is a misdemeanor.

And I assume SGTMAJ is Sergeant Major, which is the highest enlisted rank in the Army (E-9). I was Navy, so the highest enlisted rank is MCPO (master chief petty officer).

Coyote 11-14-2019 06:36 AM

Thanks.
I’m sure that ended the arousal.
SGTMAJ is also highest enlisted rank in the Marine Corps. E-9 They serve as the senior enlisted advisor to the commanding officer. We’ll sort of. A command only has 1.

We also have Master Gunnery Sergeants also E-9s.
The difference is as Gunnery Sergeants E-7s, they choose whether to be “troop handlers” -First Sergeants E-8s to SGTMAJ. Or technical experts. Master Sergeants E-8s to MasterGuns.
Squadrons and MARSOC commands, usually have both. Don’t get in the middle.

dj56dt58 11-14-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14593708)
I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?

I was in the same position earlier this year..there should be an email address on there just email them and tell them you are self employed and there is nobody else that can run your business. They emailed me back and told me I would not have to do it.

luv 11-14-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14593708)
I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?

In Missouri...

494.430. Persons entitled to be excused from jury service — determinations made by judge — undue or extreme physical or financial hardship defined — documentation required, when. — 1. Upon timely application to the court, the following persons shall be excused from service as a petit or grand juror:

  (1) Any person who has served on a state or federal petit or grand jury within the preceding two years;

  (2) Any nursing mother, upon her request, and with a completed written statement from her physician to the court certifying she is a nursing mother;

  (3) Any person whose absence from his or her regular place of employment would, in the judgment of the court, tend materially and adversely to affect the public safety, health, welfare or interest;

  (4) Any person upon whom service as a juror would in the judgment of the court impose an undue or extreme physical or financial hardship;

  (5) Any person licensed as a health care provider as such term is defined in section 538.205, but only if such person provides a written statement to the court certifying that he or she is actually providing health care services to patients, and that the person's service as a juror would be detrimental to the health of the person's patients;

  (6) Any employee of a religious institution whose religious obligations or constraints prohibit their serving on a jury. The certification of the employment and obligation or constraint may be provided by the employee's religious supervisor;

  (7) Any person who is seventy-five years of age or older.

  2. A judge of the court for which the individual was called to jury service shall make undue or extreme physical or financial hardship determinations. The authority to make these determinations is delegable only to court officials or personnel who are authorized by the laws of this state to function as members of the judiciary.

  3. A person asking to be excused based on a finding of undue or extreme physical or financial hardship must take all actions necessary to have obtained a ruling on that request by no later than the date on which the individual is scheduled to appear for jury duty.

  4. Unless it is apparent to the court that the physical hardship would significantly impair the person's ability to serve as a juror, for purposes of sections 494.400 to 494.460 undue or extreme physical or financial hardship is limited to circumstances in which an individual would:

  (1) Be required to abandon a person under his or her personal care or supervision due to the impossibility of obtaining an appropriate substitute caregiver during the period of participation in the jury pool or on the jury; or

  (2) Incur costs that would have a substantial adverse impact on the payment of the individual's necessary daily living expenses or on those for whom he or she provides the principal means of support; or

  (3) Suffer physical hardship that would result in illness or disease.

  5. Undue or extreme physical or financial hardship does not exist solely based on the fact that a prospective juror will be required to be absent from his or her place of employment.

6. A person asking a judge to grant an excuse based on undue or extreme physical or financial hardship shall provide the judge with documentation as required by the judge, such as, but not limited to, federal and state income tax returns, medical statements from licensed physicians, proof of dependency or guardianship, and similar documents, which the judge finds to clearly support the request to be excused. Failure to provide satisfactory documentation shall result in a denial of the request to be excused. Such documents shall be filed under seal.

  7. After two years, a person excused from jury service shall become eligible once again for qualification as a juror unless the person was excused from service permanently. A person is excused from jury service permanently only when the deciding judge determines that the underlying grounds for being excused are of a permanent nature.

luv 11-14-2019 08:45 AM

I've always wanted to get summoned for jury duty. Never have.

luv 11-14-2019 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 14595349)
6. A person asking a judge to grant an excuse based on undue or extreme physical or financial hardship shall provide the judge with documentation as required by the judge, such as, but not limited to, federal and state income tax returns, medical statements from licensed physicians, proof of dependency or guardianship, and similar documents, which the judge finds to clearly support the request to be excused. Failure to provide satisfactory documentation shall result in a denial of the request to be excused. Such documents shall be filed under seal.

I once knew a guy who was the sole breadwinner for a family of 5. The financial hardship of him missing work (your employer has to let you off without penalty, but they don't have to pay you for the time you're not there) got him excused every time.

Frazod 11-14-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 14595276)
Thanks.
I’m sure that ended the arousal.
SGTMAJ is also highest enlisted rank in the Marine Corps. E-9 They serve as the senior enlisted advisor to the commanding officer. We’ll sort of. A command only has 1.

We also have Master Gunnery Sergeants also E-9s.
The difference is as Gunnery Sergeants E-7s, they choose whether to be “troop handlers” -First Sergeants E-8s to SGTMAJ. Or technical experts. Master Sergeants E-8s to MasterGuns.
Squadrons and MARSOC commands, usually have both. Don’t get in the middle.

Heh. Sitting in a military court martial will most definitely end one's arousal. Definitely not like the movies. You can handle the truth. Good luck handling the boredom.

BWillie 11-14-2019 09:12 AM

How do you know if you get jury duty if you don't check the mail?

Skyy God 11-14-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KS Smitty (Post 14594566)
I've been called for district court jury duty a few times and was selected 2 different times. I got lucky in that both trials only took that day. I was also called for federal jury duty when Bob Stephen was being tried for being a crooked politician, got out of that by honestly answering that I have a distrust of politicians and he was probably guilty.

<b>I don't understand why people want to get out of jury duty, it's probably the biggest privilege Americans have, to be tried in front of a jury of your peers. If regular folks skip out of jury duty who's going to be deciding the fate of those charged with crimes?</b>

Of course a lot of you could just send your posts on here to the judge and get immediately excused. :p

Lol. It’s a pretty well recognized fact that a seated jury is 90% comprised of people not smart enough to duck jury duty and 10% of civic-minded souls such as yourself.

I don’t do jury trials, but I rather suspect your types are the ones to watch out for in voir dire.

Flying High D 11-14-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14595373)
How do you know if you get jury duty if you don't check the mail?

What’s mail?

Frazod 11-14-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14595373)
How do you know if you get jury duty if you don't check the mail?

You'll get clued in when the show up to arrest you.

ptlyon 11-14-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14595381)
You'll get clued in when the show up to arrest you.

Arrest? Wouldn't it be more of a tea bagging type of event?

Frazod 11-14-2019 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 14595385)
Arrest? Wouldn't it be more of a tea bagging type of event?

With BWillie, anything is possible.

scho63 11-14-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 14594097)
I have never ever received a jury notice! :shrug::D

Felons can't serve on jury duty. :shake:

BryanBusby 11-14-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14595381)
You'll get clued in when the show up to arrest you.

If you never respond to any correspondence they would have to prove you ever received any notice. Around here they just send it as regular mail, so no chance they could.

Spott 11-14-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14595376)
Lol. It’s a pretty well recognized fact that a seated jury is 90% comprised of people not smart enough to duck jury duty and 10% of civic-minded souls such as yourself.

I don’t do jury trials, but I rather suspect your types are the ones to watch out for in voir dire.

I actually found it very interesting when I did it, but it was a counterfeit case that involved confidential informants, secret surveillance videos of the operations, etc. I probably would have enjoyed it much less had it been a more traditional case.

It was also amazing how the jurors were willing to let the guy off even though there was easily enough evidence to convict the guy. I’m not civic minded and I generally stay away from anything that involves government/politics/law enforcement, but it was a way to get paid time off from work to do something different.


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