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The Franchise 01-20-2019 09:43 AM

Berry having surgery in the offseason
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLGameDay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLGameDay</a>: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> get star S Eric Berry (heel) back for today&#39;s game, but he may have surgery in the offseason to fix the issue... while the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a> aren&#39;t expected to have TE Ben Watson, who is dealing with appendicitis. <a href="https://t.co/Y2qR4BEWpx">pic.twitter.com/Y2qR4BEWpx</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1086994601565659136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

pugsnotdrugs19 01-20-2019 09:44 AM

Which means he’s here another year for certain...

Just please show up and make some plays Berry. Make this all worth it.

Deberg_1990 01-20-2019 09:45 AM

May have surgery?

The Franchise 01-20-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14053751)
May have surgery?

Watch the video. Says the plan is to have him have surgery.

BigRedChief 01-20-2019 09:46 AM

Should have had the surgery last off season. But, the Chiefs cant force players to have a surgery.

Coochie liquor 01-20-2019 09:53 AM

Better get that surgery, still one more payday to be had!

Chris Meck 01-20-2019 10:04 AM

well, I think it's pretty clear that we can't do this again next year. If he has the surgery and can go close to a full season next year, then cool. It's not like he's not a great player when he can go.

Dr. Yu Weed Tard 01-20-2019 10:09 AM

The plan was to get the surgery this offseason all year.

The Iron Chief 01-20-2019 10:10 AM

Plans for surgery are SB to SB Said Reid

Shaid 01-20-2019 10:11 AM

So we have him another year. Support him and if he comes back looking good and making a difference, great. If not, we cut bait.

DRM08 01-20-2019 10:12 AM

What is the recovery time?

Shaid 01-20-2019 10:18 AM

I don't know for sure but I thought Achilles were in that 6-8 month range or so. Maybe since they are going in and operating directly and not dealing with a tear, it would be less.

-King- 01-20-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14053755)
Should have had the surgery last off season. But, the Chiefs cant force players to have a surgery.

Would have missed this season if he had the surgery when the issue popped at camp.

-King- 01-20-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 14053829)
I don't know for sure but I thought Achilles were in that 6-8 month range or so. Maybe since they are going in and operating directly and not dealing with a tear, it would be less.

John wall is having surgery on his haglunds deformity too and his recovery time was also 6-8 months.

Skyy God 01-20-2019 10:23 AM

When does the injury guarantee kick in?

Hopefully the season opener.....

DRM08 01-20-2019 10:24 AM

If it’s 8 month recovery and the Chiefs win today, you are looking at October 2019. So he might miss the first 5 games. Beats the hell out of the situation we saw this season.

OKchiefs 01-20-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14053830)
Would have missed this season if he had the surgery when the issue popped at camp.

Was a known issue over a year ago, don't kid yourself.

ToxSocks 01-20-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14053847)
Was a known issue over a year ago, don't kid yourself.

Likely got worse. He always just played on it before and probably thought he could this season too.

OKchiefs 01-20-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14053841)
If it’s 8 month recovery and the Chiefs win today, you are looking at October 2019. So he might miss the first 5 games. Beats the hell out of the situation we saw this season.

So we get him for a little more than half of his 6 year contract. Wonderful!

ToxSocks 01-20-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14053852)
So we get him for a little more than half of his 6 year contract. Wonderful!

How about we find out what the time table is before we start bitching, mmkay? You have plenty of time to bitch. Save it for another day.

-King- 01-20-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14053847)
Was a known issue over a year ago, don't kid yourself.

He's always has heel problems that he played through. It decame basically unplayable a little bit before or during training camp last year

SupDock 01-20-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14053850)
Likely got worse. He always just played on it before and probably thought he could this season too.

My guess is that either the chiefs or Berry were reluctant to have the surgery, and the injury was much more nagging throughout the season than they expected

Or they were nervous about being out essentially two consecutive seasons, which pretty much happened anyway

-King- 01-20-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14053855)
How about we find out what the time table is before we start bitching, mmkay? You have plenty of time to bitch. Save it for another day.

Oh you haven't met OKchiefs?

ToxSocks 01-20-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 14053858)
My guess is that either the chiefs or Berry were reluctant to have the surgery, and the injury was much more nagging throughout the season than they expected

My guess is that they thought it would heal. That he could play on it this season with some R&R like in years past. And that never happened.

It's all good.

dirk digler 01-20-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14053856)
He's always has heel problems that he played through. It decame basically unplayable a little bit before or during training camp last year


As you mentioned above Wall played on his for 4-5 seasons until he said he couldn't take the pain anymore or that he didn't want to be traded so he had the surgery.

Dr. Yu Weed Tard 01-20-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14053816)
What is the recovery time?

Less than it would be if the ACL snaps. They cut the ACL and reattach it surgically after breaking out the Dremel and sanding down the Haglund.

My spirit approves.

BossChief 01-20-2019 10:38 AM

It has nothing to do with an acl

SupDock 01-20-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14053874)
It has nothing to do with an acl

Saw that too!

Dante84 01-20-2019 10:42 AM

I thought the Hagland surgery was a 4-month recovery? It’s not a full Achilles surgery

RunKC 01-20-2019 10:43 AM

He needs to have his surgeon picked out ASAP. Get that shit done immediately after the season is over.

milkshock 01-20-2019 10:46 AM

he has played us like a damned fiddle

TwistedChief 01-20-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 14053885)
he has played us like a damned fiddle

Your and idiot.

What does this even mean? Played us? We'd be paying him whether he got surgery or not. You think he didn't want to play this year?

dallaschiefsfan 01-20-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14053879)
I thought the Hagland surgery was a 4-month recovery? It’s not a full Achilles surgery

It's an unknown to anyone but Berry, the Chiefs and his doctor. If they have to cut the Achilles to get to the issue, it's the longer recovery time. If they can shave the bone without removing the Achilles, it's a shorter recovery. My GUESS is that due to the way they've handled it, I suspect it's the kind where they have to get the Achilles out of the way before dealing with the issue - thus, the long recovery.

Titty Meat 01-20-2019 11:27 AM

CaN wE lIvE iN tHe MoMeNt - detoxing

milkshock 01-20-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14053911)
Your and idiot.

What does this even mean? Played us? We'd be paying him whether he got surgery or not. You think he didn't want to play this year?

i thought the fact hes having surgery makes him uncutabble now, whereas if he didn't, he wouldn't be?

TwistedChief 01-20-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 14054061)
i thought the fact hes having surgery makes him uncutabble now, whereas if he didn't, he wouldn't be?

He's a 14.95mm cap hit if we cut him after this season. We'd save 1.55mm.

Dr. Yu Weed Tard 01-20-2019 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14053911)
Your and idiot.

What does this even mean? Played us? We'd be paying him whether he got surgery or not. You think he didn't want to play this year?

This.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-20-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14053881)
He needs to have his surgeon picked out ASAP. Get that shit done immediately after the season is over.

James Andrews needs to be on line 1

penguinz 01-20-2019 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14054142)
James Andrews needs to be on line 1

Andrews is who f’d up the Houston injury. Just because you know his name it doesn’t mean he is the right choice.

mcaj22 01-20-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14053833)
John wall is having surgery on his haglunds deformity too and his recovery time was also 6-8 months.

Which is interesting because like Berry, John Wall also tried to play through his Haglunds and could have had surgery last year and did not.

Wall's contract is fully guaranteed too. He's going to make 40 million a year in like 2020

Aspengc8 01-20-2019 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14053833)
John wall is having surgery on his haglunds deformity too and his recovery time was also 6-8 months.

it depends on severity and if it can be shaved down without detaching the achilles

JakeF 01-20-2019 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14053881)
He needs to have his surgeon picked out ASAP. Get that shit done immediately after the season is over.

Nope, he'll use the surgery to force the Chiefs to pay him another full year.

Justin Houston did almost the exact same thing in 2015. He got hurt and missed the last 5 games of the regular season. He played in 2 playoff games before waiting for a little over a month after our last game before having knee surgery. He started the next season on IR locking his full salary in for the season.

If Berry waits he will force full salary payment or an injury settlement. After the way his last contract negotiations went, Berry isn't letting the Chiefs off the hook for a single penny. The Chiefs might as well just keep him for another season and hope he can play some.

Foot injuries are so difficult for football players. :(

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-20-2019 03:06 PM

If Berry had surgery during the summer he wasn't going to play this year. If he gets the surgery in February, there's a chance he can play next year.

Would you rather have the possibility of Berry for a stretch run this year and all of next year, or no Berry at all this year?

This isn't like Shaq saying, "I got hurt on company time so I'll recover on company time."

Chris Meck 01-20-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 14053885)
he has played us like a damned fiddle

You guys with your conspiracy theories. Ridiculous.

Clark doesn't care about winning, Berry doesn't want to play, Houston got paid so he's just dogging it, Reid doesn't care about the defense...am I missing anything?

Stay away from the grassy knoll, man!

BWillie 01-20-2019 03:24 PM

If he plays today and in the Super Bowl all is forgiven. You can only have so many cortisone shots you can get a year. Usually it's limited to 3-4 times a year.

Let's go Berry - go get 'em. But I'd like to see you on the field at the end of the game.

Otter 01-20-2019 03:40 PM

This situation has been handled so poorly it's hard to believe.

BWillie 01-20-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 14054864)
This situation has been handled so poorly it's hard to believe.

I don't think any of us have enough information to know that. If surgery would have put him out for the entire year if it was done at the start of the year - this is probably the best play, actually.

KChiefs1 01-20-2019 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14053816)
What is the recovery time?


A year.

Aspengc8 01-20-2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14054982)
A year.

if they completely detach his achilles, maybe 6 months. if they can shave it off, more like 8-12 weeks


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