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DaFace 12-23-2018 09:55 AM

***CHAT USERS: Please weigh in here***
 
It has been suggested that Chat be moved offsite to Discord. I personally don't know much about it, but I know a lot of people using for gaming chat and such. You'll have to register, but you can check it out here.

https://discord.gg/9RQQJXe

From my perspective, the main advantages of it are:
  • It's not on our server, so it won't lag or go down during games.
  • It's more modern, so you can do things like direct messages, images, attachments, etc.

On the other hand:
  • There's no direct integration, so everyone will have to manually create an account if you don't already have one.
  • Usernames won't translate from CP, so you might not be able to tell who is who.
  • It's a completely separate system, and the CP mods have no control over it, so it's kind of a free for all.

I personally don't care - I'm only an occasional chat user anyway - so whatever most of you chat users want, I'm fine with. If most people would prefer giving Discord a try, I'll change the link in the header.

JoeyChuckles 12-23-2018 10:36 AM

Discord is great. Our current chat is okay and fun, but it tends to freeze up and have issues.

I vote for Discord.

Either way, all of you in the game day thread need to get into chat instead.

petegz28 12-23-2018 10:40 AM

The chat here isn't bad when it works. I don't know what Discord is so I cannot comment...

TLO 12-23-2018 10:43 AM

The current chat here. Please don't take it away from us

digger 12-23-2018 10:53 AM

Discord: Everything You Need to Know

dlphg9 12-23-2018 10:56 AM

About 235!

RealSNR 12-23-2018 10:56 AM

I voted for keeping chat on the CP server because change is bad. Very very bad!

FAX 12-23-2018 10:58 AM

Hmm ... chat users appear to be a reasonable and democratic group of thoughtful and considerate people.

Odd. I was expecting a weigh-in confrontation leading to a few punches and perhaps some spitting.

FAX

TwistedChief 12-23-2018 11:00 AM

I would say use the current chat for the rest of the season. Disable it after we win the Super Bowl and mandate a move to Discord with the next preseason as a trial run.

DaFace 12-23-2018 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13979019)
I would say use the current chat for the rest of the season. Disable it after we win the Super Bowl and mandate a move to Discord with the next preseason as a trial run.

I could go for that.

Easy 6 12-23-2018 11:11 AM

I've only poked my head into chat once several years ago, and not even for very long... can someone please explain whats so different and better about it?

DaFace 12-23-2018 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13979035)
I've only poked my head into chat once several years ago, and not even for very long... can someone please explain whats so different and better about it?

Primarily, no reloading the page all the time. It's a much more free flowing conversation compared to game threads, where there might 20 new posts by the time you compose your own.

Easy 6 12-23-2018 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13979043)
Primarily, no reloading the page all the time. It's a much more free flowing conversation compared to game threads, where there might 20 new posts by the time you compose your own.

I see, to each their own... I'm stuck in my ways with the game thread

SAUTO 12-23-2018 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13979019)
I would say use the current chat for the rest of the season. Disable it after we win the Super Bowl and mandate a move to Discord with the next preseason as a trial run.

Makes sense

Bowser 12-23-2018 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13979019)
I would say use the current chat for the rest of the season. Disable it after we win the Super Bowl and mandate a move to Discord with the next preseason as a trial run.

I like this idea, but I'm not a chat user. I just like that we are going to win the Super Bowl, honestly. Give it a go next season.


How bad can the lags get on gameday in chat?

Coach 12-23-2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13979019)
I would say use the current chat for the rest of the season. Disable it after we win the Super Bowl and mandate a move to Discord with the next preseason as a trial run.

Concur.

I don't use chat that much, but if it comes to that, I might consider it. That being said, I'm still set in my own ways on using the game thread.

DaFace 12-23-2018 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13979065)
I like this idea, but I'm not a chat user. I just like that we are going to win the Super Bowl, honestly. Give it a go next season.





How bad can the lags get on gameday in chat?

Same as game threads generally.

007 12-23-2018 12:00 PM

Feel free to give it a shot. Works very well.


https://discord.gg/ZxwMjMC

KS Smitty 12-23-2018 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13979019)
I would say use the current chat for the rest of the season. Disable it after we win the Super Bowl and mandate a move to Discord with the next preseason as a trial run.

I've never used Discord but not afraid to try it after the Superbowl. I do like chat on gameday.

dlphg9 12-23-2018 12:10 PM

I have a feeling that if/when the Chiefs make the SB that the site is probably going to go down. Maybe try using Discord for a trial run next week and see how everyone likes it. Isnt there a Discord app?

SAUTO 12-23-2018 12:13 PM

Who ****ing cares if the site goes down with a super bowl win?

It's worth it

DaFace 12-23-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13979146)
I have a feeling that if/when the Chiefs make the SB that the site is probably going to go down. Maybe try using Discord for a trial run next week and see how everyone likes it. Isnt there a Discord app?

Yeah, there's an app.

If Discord isn't the answer, there are a variety of other options out there for hosted chat rooms. Unfortunately, the good ones generally have fees of around $20/month, but that might be doable if we get a handful of people to pitch in $10 per year or something.

007 12-23-2018 12:35 PM

Hey Face. Might not be a bad idea to put the invite link in the OP as well. Encourage people to look.

https://discord.gg/ZxwMjMC

digger 12-23-2018 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13979146)
I have a feeling that if/when the Chiefs make the SB that the site is probably going to go down. Maybe try using Discord for a trial run next week and see how everyone likes it. Isnt there a Discord app?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...scord&hl=en_US

mnchiefsguy 12-23-2018 12:43 PM

Voted for the current chat, but am open to trying Discord.

007 12-23-2018 12:45 PM

Don't be so afraid of change guys. At least give discord a chance. You've got to be tired of not being able to post when the game thread blows the server up.

Discord is pc and phone friendly. Very easy to use.

displacedinMN 12-23-2018 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 13979245)
Voted for the current chat, but am open to trying Discord.

ditto. willing to try discord on a meaningless game

Lurker 12-23-2018 12:57 PM

Non-chat person here. I don't really care what is done but I'm wondering what impact chat has on the server during game day?

DaFace 12-23-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurker (Post 13979295)
Non-chat person here. I don't really care what is done but I'm wondering what impact chat has on the server during game day?

Much less than posting in the game thread, but it has some impact.

bigjosh 12-23-2018 01:05 PM

Is the discord active?

I will try it out today, but i like an active chat. The CP chat doesn't work for me anymore because we have no computer, just mobile and tablet.

I use the gameday thread when im streaming the game so i dont know about stuff before it happens, as the stream lags 40 seconds or so behind.

Chiefs4TheWin 12-23-2018 01:29 PM

I pop in for a few games a year. I don't mind the CP chat so I voted for it. I mean if it's clogging up the server at an unusual rate I could deal with other methods.

Jewish Rabbi 12-23-2018 01:30 PM

If there are no dancing banana emojis on Discord, you better forget about moving chat there.

SAUTO 12-23-2018 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13979331)
Is the discord active?

I will try it out today, but i like an active chat. The CP chat doesn't work for me anymore because we have no computer, just mobile and tablet.

I use the gameday thread when im streaming the game so i dont know about stuff before it happens, as the stream lags 40 seconds or so behind.

Chat works great on my phone. But I use the full site

DaFace 12-23-2018 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13979447)
If there are no dancing banana emojis on Discord, you better forget about moving chat there.

Hmm...certainly a valid concern there.

threebag 12-23-2018 01:50 PM

Game day thread > chat

stumppy 12-23-2018 01:55 PM

But....but....its not going to feel the same without the lag, and constant page refresh

Dayze 12-23-2018 01:56 PM

I liked chat, but have t been on it for a while because I know primarily browse the internet etc with my iPad. And I think chat does t work on it because chat is a Flash program or something out that effect? So I’ve mainly stick tO GDT. But I did like the chat feature when I was on a laptop. As DaFace mentioned. It’s much more quickly paced

DaFace 12-23-2018 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13979505)
I liked chat, but have t been on it for a while because I know primarily browse the internet etc with my iPad. And I think chat does t work on it because chat is a Flash program or something out that effect? So I’ve mainly stick tO GDT. But I did like the chat feature when I was on a laptop. As DaFace mentioned. It’s much more quickly paced

The chat we're using now isn't flash based (it used to be), so you should be able to use it on an iPad without a problem.

(That said, the user experience is probably better for Discord on mobile devices since it has an actual app.)

Dayze 12-23-2018 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13979512)
The chat we're using now isn't flash based (it used to be), so you should be able to use it on an iPad without a problem.

(That said, the user experience is probably better for Discord on mobile devices since it has an actual app.)

:hmmm:

Cool, I’ll check it out.

KS Smitty 12-23-2018 02:07 PM

Dancing banana posted as gif over there, worked for me but I don't know who else can see it.

It's different but a lot quicker.

Rasputin 12-23-2018 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 13978962)
Discord is great. Our current chat is okay and fun, but it tends to freeze up and have issues.

I vote for Discord.

Either way, all of you in the game day thread need to get into chat instead.

I'm not going into chat room if it doesn't count to my post count.

HonestChieffan 12-23-2018 03:30 PM

I vote with the majority. Frustration helps us grow as people.

DaFace 12-23-2018 03:43 PM

Looks like a clear consensus, so we'll leave it alone for now. We'll revisit this offseason to see if we can figure out if Discord or something else is a better option.

threebag 12-23-2018 04:14 PM

That was quick, you must be in a hurry to “fix you shit”

007 12-23-2018 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13979889)
Looks like a clear consensus, so we'll leave it alone for now. We'll revisit this offseason to see if we can figure out if Discord or something else is a better option.

With this place you have to force it anyway.

JoeyChuckles 12-23-2018 04:34 PM

I love the Discord chat room, but I agree that we should wait until the offseason to change.

Coach 12-23-2018 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13979889)
Looks like a clear consensus, so we'll leave it alone for now. We'll revisit this offseason to see if we can figure out if Discord or something else is a better option.

Is there a way that the normal chat that people us on CP can be improved (along with the site)?

I'd assume that it would need a new/bigger server to handle the traffic?

DaFace 12-23-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13980171)
Is there a way that the normal chat that people us on CP can be improved (along with the site)?



I'd assume that it would need a new/bigger server to handle the traffic?

Not really, no. It's a half assed hack that was written a decade ago.

displacedinMN 12-23-2018 05:39 PM

And trying to get away from Flash. They keep saying flash is going to be killed, but two years later it is still here. Chrome doing its best to put nails in the coffin.

TwistedChief 12-23-2018 05:41 PM

For those who don’t regularly go to the chat, we only won the game at Denver this season because TLO mandated that we only post in caps in the fourth quarter. It was a true revelation.

CasselGotPeedOn 12-23-2018 05:49 PM

So Reerun gets banned for being a douche to DaFace about the server, and then votes to keep chat here, thus hurting the server performance. What a piece of shit.

Coach 12-23-2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13980183)
Not really, no. It's a half assed hack that was written a decade ago.

So if there were improvements/more processing power/indexing (whatever it is) made for the server, not only that would help the board performance, it would enable to keep this chat on here?

DaFace 12-23-2018 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13980277)
So if there were improvements/more processing power/indexing (whatever it is) made for the server, not only that would help the board performance, it would enable to keep this chat on here?

Correct. Though I'd still argue that the user experience leaves something to be desired even when it's working well.

007 12-23-2018 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 13980208)
So Reerun gets banned for being a douche to DaFace about the server, and then votes to keep chat here, thus hurting the server performance. What a piece of shit.

LMAO

Coach 12-23-2018 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13980290)
Correct. Though I'd still argue that the user experience leaves something to be desired even when it's working well.

That's fair, but perhaps in the offseason, run a poll to gauge CP's preference if they want bells and whistles while on a different chat, or continue to use this one with no bells and whistles?

Just a thought.

GayFrogs 12-23-2018 07:21 PM

Either discord or make the chatroom way more prominent. Would be cool to talk over mic about the game.

Ming the Merciless 12-23-2018 07:33 PM

Discord is awesome

007 12-23-2018 07:39 PM

Come and join us

007 12-23-2018 07:51 PM

Our corners need dunce caps

BleedingRed 12-23-2018 08:13 PM

No lie this is not the discord I setup, the fact you advertise something that has been going on for someone who came and posted on the discord I’ve kept going is ****ing lame

threebag 12-23-2018 08:35 PM

Kill the chat yesterday

threebag 12-23-2018 10:16 PM

Only thing that shits out more than this server is the Chiefs D

digger 12-30-2018 10:56 AM

https://discord.gg/3Q9A4G



https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images.../mariobump.jpg

cabletech94 12-30-2018 11:02 AM

im with snr.

change is bad. i hate change. my work is all about change. so im sure something that i love, will change.

chat on this site is awesome (when its working at optimal performance) !!!

wazu 12-30-2018 11:05 AM

I'm a gamer, so if I were to chat I'd use Discord more. That said, we have a lot of old dudes on this site who probably wouldn't be able to figure it out.

cabletech94 12-30-2018 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13994102)
I'm a gamer, so if I were to chat I'd use Discord more. That said, we have a lot of old dudes on this site who probably wouldn't be able to figure it out.

damn, you're harsh!!

harsh, but you're right!!

:)

JoeyChuckles 12-30-2018 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13994102)
I'm a gamer, so if I were to chat I'd use Discord more. That said, we have a lot of old dudes on this site who probably wouldn't be able to figure it out.

We had it going last week, had a pretty good crowd. Hardest part is figuring out how to change your nickname to match your CP username.

Naptown Chief 12-30-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13994102)
I'm a gamer, so if I were to chat I'd use Discord more. That said, we have a lot of old dudes on this site who probably wouldn't be able to figure it out.

Yeah, I use discord for gaming as well. I like the idea of having chat on CP, but that shit drops faster (and more often) than a hooker's skirt...

Naptown Chief 12-30-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 13994147)
We had it going last week, had a pretty good crowd. Hardest part is figuring out how to change your nickname to match your CP username.

Maybe I'll join you guys. I'm sure I'll get shit for my avatar but **** it.

SAUTO 12-30-2018 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 13994301)
Maybe I'll join you guys. I'm sure I'll get shit for my avatar but **** it.

Billay already has the big purple dildo one

007 01-12-2019 04:06 AM

Just a reminder. Great place to chat and you won't have to worry about the board stoppage issues.

TLO 01-12-2019 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14026137)
Just a reminder. Great place to chat and you won't have to worry about the board stoppage issues.

I am hesitant to change.

DaFace 01-12-2019 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14026137)
Just a reminder. Great place to chat and you won't have to worry about the board stoppage issues.

Yep. I fully expect the server to be pretty shitty today, so I personally think Discord is a good alternative.

BleedingRed 01-12-2019 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14026226)
Yep. I fully expect the server to be pretty shitty today, so I personally think Discord is a good alternative.

She is going to crap out today for sure, we will probly have well over 20k+ on website.

Discord will be ready I’m trying to spy conditions now posting in discord.... child woke me up early

DaFace 01-12-2019 09:12 AM

Bump for Discord link.

007 01-12-2019 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14026221)
I am hesitant to change.

Get over it and get over there

TribalElder 01-12-2019 09:16 AM

Using a different site instead of fixing this one :hmmm:

Discuss Thrower 01-12-2019 09:17 AM

Can chat be on a different server...?

DaFace 01-12-2019 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14026437)
Can chat be on a different server...?

Discord is.

Discuss Thrower 01-12-2019 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14026441)
Discord is.

Well yeah, but that's not what I was asking.


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