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displacedinMN 07-16-2018 02:10 PM

Bell done as a Steeler at end of season
 
Long ass article

Spoiler!

ToxSocks 07-16-2018 02:13 PM

Steelers are right to not pay him. Bell is right to demand an exorbitant contract.

displacedinMN 07-16-2018 02:14 PM

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raybec 4 07-16-2018 02:16 PM

He turned down what is likely going to be his biggest long term payday offer.

Rain Man 07-16-2018 02:16 PM

Why is it that I personally dislike pretty much every player on the Steelers roster?

Otter 07-16-2018 02:19 PM

Because he's on a team of head hunters favored by NFL refs?

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-16-2018 02:30 PM

Like the NFL is going to let the Rooneys lose their favorite toy.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-16-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13630999)
Why is it that I personally dislike pretty much every player on the Steelers roster?

Try living in Steelers country. Their fans are insufferable, entitled jerks.

The Franchise 07-16-2018 02:32 PM

He'd better find another offensive line that will be allowed to hold.

Beef Supreme 07-16-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 13630997)
He turned down what is likely going to be his biggest long term payday offer.

Yep. He might end up making more money than what he turned down in a series of 1 or 2 year deals, but ain't nobody signing up for a giant pile of long-term money.

rabblerouser 07-16-2018 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13630988)
Steelers are right to not pay him. Bell is right to demand an exorbitant contract.

But does he want the money bad enough to shorten his career by getting beat up in Buffalo or Cleveland?

I'd take more years at less money to remain a Steeler...

RealSNR 07-16-2018 02:43 PM

If Elway is crazy and/or dumb enough to offer Keenum $18 million, I imagine he's also crazy and/or dumb enough to give Bell that kind of money after he gets sick enough of his team's utter inability to run the ball.

That would be hilarious.

threebag 07-16-2018 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13631040)
He'd better find another offensive line that will be allowed to hold.

Denver or Las Vegas

Red Dawg 07-16-2018 03:33 PM

He turned down like AP money last year. His price is rediculous and only a stupid team would pay that for an RB. They are not worth over 10 per year. Last I checked the the two top dogs in stats last were both rookies. Hunt and Alvin.

RippedmyFlesh 07-16-2018 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13631063)
If Elway is crazy and/or dumb enough to offer Keenum $18 million, I imagine he's also crazy and/or dumb enough to give Bell that kind of money after he gets sick enough of his team's utter inability to run the ball.

That would be hilarious.

Would love that. He is going to mess up any team's cap. They will be stuck in minnesota AP era purgatory at their peak.

notorious 07-16-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13631040)
He'd better find another offensive line that will be allowed to hold.

This can’t ever be said enough.

RunKC 07-16-2018 03:54 PM

Weak conference-check
Brady retiring soon-check
Steelers getting old and falling apart-check

Chiefs finally having a badass QB-check

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jjchieffan 07-16-2018 03:59 PM

I normally don't wish injury on players, but I would find a little satisfaction if he blew out his Achilles or ACL early in the season. Ruining the Steelers running game and ruining his chance at a big payday next off-season. Screw them both.

BryanBusby 07-16-2018 04:26 PM

I don't blame him. No way that dude is going to see a good 3rd contract, if one at all, so he needs to make his next deal count.

If I were to guess today, he'll be playing for Buffalo in a year.

displacedinMN 07-16-2018 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13631207)
I normally don't wish injury on players, but I would find a little satisfaction if he blew out his Achilles or ACL early in the season. Ruining the Steelers running game and ruining his chance at a big payday next off-season. Screw them both.

ditto. Good post.

It is Kharma

BossChief 07-16-2018 05:17 PM

400 carries this year

Abba-Dabba 07-16-2018 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13631207)
I normally don't wish injury on players, but I would find a little satisfaction if he blew out his Achilles or ACL early in the season. Ruining the Steelers running game and ruining his chance at a big payday next off-season. Screw them both.

:rolleyes:

Bowser 07-16-2018 05:20 PM

I can't imagine that this story will be an issue in that locker room.

And Pest is right - who gets away with the most holds after Pittsburgh? That's where he'll be next season if this story holds up.

BryanBusby 07-16-2018 05:20 PM

Ya I hope a guy can't walk because some old grandpa has no idea how to stop him, too.

Easy 6 07-16-2018 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13631366)
And Pest is right - who gets away with the most holds after Pittsburgh? That's where he'll be next season if this story holds up.

Denver

Bowser 07-16-2018 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13631423)
Denver

That would be amazing, actually. No Antonio Brown, No Ben, no nothing but Case Keenum and Sanders/Thomas, both on the wrong side of 30.


I can actually see him doing it. I might laugh my ass off if he did.


http://dailyupperdecker.com/wp-conte...lway-drunk.png

Hammock Parties 07-16-2018 06:06 PM

The road is clearing for Mahomes to win a Super Bowl in 2019.

Chief Roundup 07-16-2018 06:17 PM

So he is stating that he will not rush the ball 400 times, I don't think he ever has. So basically he is stating that he will take more plays off rendering himself less effective causing his value to go down. Does he really think that any team will pay him $14.5M a year?
I hope him and this situation is a distraction for the Squeallers.

Valiant 07-16-2018 06:19 PM

Smart by him, delays him practicing, more rust this year. Good point is it limits his carries. I see him with raiders, donkeys, Pats or Seahawks.

Red Dawg 07-16-2018 06:20 PM

Bell is clearly going to the highest bidder. Who has the most cap space? Browns still? They may give it to him.

RunKC 07-16-2018 06:21 PM

I can totally see some dumbass team like Miami going after this dude. They did the same shit with Suh and gave Albert Wilson big money.

Red Dawg 07-16-2018 06:23 PM

In 2019 looks like the Jets have like 80 mil. They would spend big money on Bell.

Chief Roundup 07-16-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13631493)
I can totally see some dumbass team like Miami going after this dude. They did the same shit with Suh and gave Albert Wilson big money.

Are you high? $8M a year is not "big money".

Red Dawg 07-16-2018 06:40 PM

Pitt went all in to keep Brown. You can't pay all your skill players crazy deals. They don't affect your title hopes enough. QB, OL and DL, pass rushers are more valuable. DB is pretty valuable as well.

Easy 6 07-16-2018 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13631435)
That would be amazing, actually. No Antonio Brown, No Ben, no nothing but Case Keenum and Sanders/Thomas, both on the wrong side of 30.


I can actually see him doing it. I might laugh my ass off if he did.


http://dailyupperdecker.com/wp-conte...lway-drunk.png

It might help them in the short term though

No O line is allowed to clutch and grab KC quite like the Broncos, just ask Tamba

Deberg_1990 07-16-2018 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13631483)
So he is stating that he will not rush the ball 400 times, I don't think he ever has. So basically he is stating that he will take more plays off rendering himself less effective causing his value to go down. Does he really think that any team will pay him $14.5M a year?
I hope him and this situation is a distraction for the Squeallers.

He has interesting stats. Doesn’t have a ton of miles. Not too many touches until last year. You have to count his catches as his carries too. Doesn’t score many TDs either.

MMXcalibur 07-16-2018 06:55 PM

Awesome!
Only one more season of him putting clown shoes on our defense.

RunKC 07-16-2018 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13631516)
Are you high? $8M a year is not "big money".

It is for an at best #3 WR

Chief Roundup 07-16-2018 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13631576)
It is for an at best #3 WR

He sure showed more than that in the one game that showcased his capabilities as a WR. He is also a good ST player and a great locker room guy.

Red Dawg 07-16-2018 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13631592)
He sure showed more than that in the one game that showcased his capabilities as a WR. He is also a good ST player and a great locker room guy.

Give him the Eric Hicks award for being a great locker room guy.

jaa1025 07-16-2018 07:19 PM

He’s getting some awful advice

Best22 07-16-2018 07:47 PM

I don't mind Le'veon Bell but he's pretty dumb

How can you be the highest paid Running Back when you failed to lead the league in rushing?

(And Bell had more carries than Hunt)

Red Dawg 07-16-2018 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13631683)
I don't mind Le'veon Bell but he's pretty dumb

How can you be the highest paid Running Back when you failed to lead the league in rushing?

(And Bell had more carries than Hunt)

He was offered more than enough to be the highest paid RB. He wants more than that. Like 15 to 17 mil and like 40 to sign. He turned down 30 to sign.

OKchiefs 07-16-2018 09:23 PM

I hope Bell has a shit season and his value tanks.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-16-2018 09:47 PM

Run him into the ground.

Simply Red 07-16-2018 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13631197)
Weak conference-check
Brady retiring soon-check
Steelers getting old and falling apart-check

Chiefs finally having a badass QB-check

<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/2e4s9s"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/2e4s9s.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

Now this is a post I can get on board with. Well done Run.

lcarus 07-16-2018 10:04 PM

With Bell I get the feeling he's gonna be good for another season - maybe 2 - then go somewhere like Miami or Arizona and fade into oblivion. Could be wrong but it's just the feeling I have about him.

MoreBeer 07-16-2018 11:35 PM

RB's have a 3-5 year shelf life...

You have a decent enough OL and you can manufacture a 1400 yard RB from the 3rd rd

PunkinDrublic 07-17-2018 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13631006)
Because he's on a team of head hunters favored by NFL refs?

Funny how Cincinnati plays the same kind of defense as Pittsburgh yet the narrative is always that the Bengals are thugs and Burfict is a cheap shot artist while Pittsburgh is labeled a hard nosed aggressive defense. We’re also supposed to feel sorry for Ryan Shazier when he paralyzes himself trying to hurt another player by leading with his helmet. **** Pittsburgh!

Eleazar 07-17-2018 05:54 AM

If this is all true, I hope Kendrell will sign one of those one day contracts and retire as a Chief.

Eleazar 07-17-2018 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13631592)
He sure showed more than that in the one game that showcased his capabilities as a WR. He is also a good ST player and a great locker room guy.

He got paid double what he's worth.

Eleazar 07-17-2018 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 13631935)
RB's have a 3-5 year shelf life...

You have a decent enough OL and you can manufacture a 1400 yard RB from the 3rd rd

I'm not sure why anyone would give a RB a big contract anymore.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-17-2018 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13631962)
Funny how Cincinnati plays the same kind of defense as Pittsburgh yet the narrative is always that the Bengals are thugs and Burfict is a cheap shot artist while Pittsburgh is labeled a hard nosed aggressive defense. We’re also supposed to feel sorry for Ryan Shazier when he paralyzes himself trying to hurt another player by leading with his helmet. **** Pittsburgh!

That narrative has been around since the 1970s. Mean Joe Greene was a saint, I tell ya.

TambaBerry 07-17-2018 06:36 AM

This was actually really smart by the Steelers.

MahiMike 07-17-2018 06:38 AM

$100 says he doesn't play 16 games this year. Can't wait for the annual hold out followed by the annual injury.

KC_Lee 07-17-2018 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13632010)
$100 says he doesn't play 16 games this year. Can't wait for the annual hold out followed by the annual injury.

And suspension for violating the NFL's drug policy or another DUI.

Deberg_1990 07-17-2018 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13632010)
$100 says he doesn't play 16 games this year. Can't wait for the annual hold out followed by the annual injury.

It’s extremely risky on his part. Imagine if he gets hurt this year. He will never get offered that kind of money again.

DJ's left nut 07-17-2018 08:53 AM

I really don't see anyone to blame here.

Evidently the Steelers even went to $15 million in AAV (which means nothing if structured a certain way). That's damn near double what the #2 RB in the league makes. The Steelers absolutely made a fair offer.

But Bell isn't willing to consider himself among RBs because of what he's able to do in the passing game. He sees himself on the same tier as top WRs and even QBs. He knows the Steelers would have to give him about $21 million to tag him again next season so he's willing to let the market establish his value.

That's a fair avenue for him as well. The good news as a Chiefs fan is that he's definitely going to make some business decisions here and there. There will be times that he doesn't go as hard across the middle. Hell, he's never been a good blocker anyway and this definitely won't help that.

He's going to have his eyes on that 2019 payday and that is generally a good thing for opponents.

Stryker 07-17-2018 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13632010)
$100 says he doesn't play 16 games this year. Can't wait for the annual hold out followed by the annual injury.

Agreed :clap::clap: The Steelers are VERY smart to not sign him long term. Let him be someone else's headache. Faiders maybe? :rolleyes:

wazu 07-17-2018 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 13632196)
Agreed :clap::clap: The Steelers are VERY smart to not sign him long term. Let him be someone else's headache. Faiders maybe? :rolleyes:

He’ll be 27. A young guy Gruden can bring in to be his grinder. Only $17 million per year.

Skyy God 07-17-2018 10:00 AM

RBs are the 3rd lowest paid position (after K and P).

Crazytown.

Red Dawg 07-17-2018 10:06 AM

Bell was offered a very good deal that paid him twice as much Freeman. He would have been way above all other RBs. If he gets injured he will lose millions. He's a dumbass that's just asking for injury.

FloridaMan88 07-17-2018 10:12 AM

Kareem Hunt is the worst thing to happen to veteran RB's such as Bell who are looking for big pay days.

ThaVirus 07-17-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13632263)
Kareem Hunt is the worst thing to happen to veteran RB's such as Bell who are looking for big pay days.


It’s not just Kareem. Kamara, Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Jordan Howard.

Red Dawg 07-17-2018 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13632263)
Kareem Hunt is the worst thing to happen to veteran RB's such as Bell who are looking for big pay days.

This is true but it also doesn't help that teams keep getting to the SB without big money skill pllayers. High priced skill players are not needed.

O.city 07-17-2018 10:24 AM

I can't believe he turned down what he did. He's been suspended and hurt, is a RB and turned down 15 mil per?

That's nuts.

sedated 07-17-2018 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13632263)
Kareem Hunt is the worst thing to happen to veteran RB's such as Bell who are looking for big pay days.

Jamaal Charles was a 3rd round pick too.

IMHO there is no reason to take a RB higher then the 3rd unless they are a sure-fire freak. Just grab a 3rd or 4th rounder every couple of years, add some undrafted FAs, and churn through them until the end of time.

Skyy God 07-17-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13632247)
Bell was offered a very good deal that paid him twice as much Freeman. He would have been way above all other RBs. If he gets injured he will lose millions. He's a dumbass that's just asking for injury.

Bell and Freeman aren’t super analogous.

Freeman only got $22M guaranteed, while Bell was offered $30M. Which is more, but only $16M more than the tag.

I bet Bell gets more than that on the open market.

Skyy God 07-17-2018 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13632282)
I can't believe he turned down what he did. He's been suspended and hurt, is a RB and turned down 15 mil per?

That's nuts.

Those are numbers for agents and dumb fans.

O.city 07-17-2018 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 13632297)
Those are numbers for agents and dumb fans.

ok

Skyy God 07-17-2018 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 13632294)
Jamaal Charles was a 3rd round pick too.

IMHO there is no reason to take a RB higher then the 3rd unless they are a sure-fire freak. Just grab a 3rd or 4th rounder every couple of years, add some undrafted FAs, and churn through them until the end of time.

They’re ok to draft in the 1st now due to cost control from the new rookie scale.

Just don’t offer a big 2nd contract.

BryanBusby 07-17-2018 05:16 PM

Guess the extension only offered 10 mil guaranteed

Red Dawg 07-17-2018 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 13632294)
Jamaal Charles was a 3rd round pick too.

IMHO there is no reason to take a RB higher then the 3rd unless they are a sure-fire freak. Just grab a 3rd or 4th rounder every couple of years, add some undrafted FAs, and churn through them until the end of time.

I say the same every draft. I would never take an RB in the first round.


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