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Eleazar 01-08-2018 09:03 PM

Andy Reid's approval rating
 
A simple question. Do you approve of the job Andy Reid is doing as the head coach of the Chiefs?

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2018 09:03 PM

Mahomes is the key to his success or failure now.

O.city 01-08-2018 09:03 PM

Yes

But no

Why Not? 01-08-2018 09:03 PM

Simple answer. **** and no

Pablo 01-08-2018 09:05 PM

See playoff record for answer.

Nickhead 01-08-2018 09:06 PM

mr hunt needs to strip andy of all playcalling duties. demote him to manager. :D

Rain Man 01-08-2018 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13347623)
Mahomes is the key to his success or failure now.

The key question is whether Patrick will save Andy or Andy will ruin Patrick.

I have a fear of a cardigan-wearing, Proust-reading Mahomes looking over his reading glasses at us five years from now, saying, "I favor the safe, high percentage throws".

BigRedChief 01-08-2018 09:11 PM

Horrible poll. Job approval? BS poll. You either get rid of him or keep him. I voted to keep him.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2018 09:13 PM

I'm not over the moon about Andy right now, but he is receiving far more blame than he should. Sutton should get at least half of the blame with his stupid schemes week in and week out.

And as mentioned in some other threads, how many times are we going to blame Andy Reid for the QB not being willing to throw the football where he should? That shows up all too often.

Reid should not and is not in any danger of being fired. We'll see in a couple years if that changes.

kcpasco 01-08-2018 09:13 PM

Remember the days of firing Haley and thinking Crennel would save us. LOL

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2018 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13347681)
I'm not over the moon about Andy right now, but he is receiving far more blame than he should. Sutton should get at least half of the blame with his stupid schemes week in and week out.

And as mentioned in some other threads, how many times are we going to blame Andy Reid for the QB not being willing to throw the football where he should? That shows up all too often.

Reid should not and is not in any danger of being fired. We'll see in a couple years if that changes.

If Sutton isn't replaced, its going to take at least an AFC championship appearance for me to not want Reid thrown out on his ass.

Bwana 01-08-2018 09:19 PM

No

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-08-2018 09:22 PM

No Nagy with a bunch of vets gone...If he wants a 10 win season and a division title he better keep Smith and restructure that contract to make the pieces fit.

Otherwise it's 7-9 and a lot of pain.

carcosa 01-08-2018 09:23 PM

No

carcosa 01-08-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347735)
No Nagy with a bunch of vets gone...If he wants a 10 win season and a division title he better keep Smith and restructure that contract to make the pieces fit.

Otherwise it's 7-9 and a lot of pain.

No

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347735)
No Nagy with a bunch of vets gone...If he wants a 10 win season and a division title he better keep Smith and restructure that contract to make the pieces fit.

Otherwise it's 7-9 and a lot of pain.

Go **** yourself.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-08-2018 09:26 PM

Reid got absolutely shredded by the media today.

He's the anti-clutch. The clock mismanager. Plays to lose.

a pp roach 01-08-2018 09:40 PM

No. Unless he figures out what a running back is.

ChiefsCountry 01-08-2018 09:41 PM

Yes. Damn good coach. You aren't going to win playoff games with Alex Smith as your QB unless you play against Brian Hoyer.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-08-2018 09:44 PM

There won't be a playoff for us unless you ride the hot hand with Smith and let him run the show with a full offensive roster. The loss of Conley was enormous

notorious 01-08-2018 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347833)
There won't be a playoff for us unless you ride the hot hand with Smith and let him run the show with a full offensive roster. The loss of Conley was enormous

Is this satire?


LMAO

Reerun_KC 01-08-2018 09:53 PM

I’m never a fan of rehashing the trash.

I like young inventive and hungry for success coaches. Not fat ****s looking for a buffet to destroy.

Never a fan of the good ol boy coaches club = rehashing the trash.

a pp roach 01-08-2018 09:55 PM

Let's get Priest Holmes to coach this team

Indian Chief 01-08-2018 09:56 PM

I'm not happy with the results and I'm not going to excuse any of the awful decisions he makes in big spots. But I also don't see any option out there that is clearly better. If you're going to replace him, you do it with someone better. Who is that?

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2018 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347833)
There won't be a playoff for us unless you ride the hot hand with Smith and let him run the show with a full offensive roster. The loss of Conley was enormous

You have got to be trolling.

jd1020 01-08-2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13347902)
You have got to be trolling.

Of course he is. He wrote that sentence as if he's a Chiefs fan.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-08-2018 10:02 PM

Understanding the full play book and building that chemistry with the players all for what? So you can say goodbye to the #1 rated QB??

Madness.

GloryDayz 01-08-2018 10:09 PM

At the end of the day he's a moron. Whatever he does well is erased by the things he does poorly.

He needs to go, he's too old and stubborn to change the things he needs to change to get him to a SB, and maybe win it. From his play calling, to not demanding more out for the defense, to being to silent about problems he then doesn't fix, he's toast.

The only thing saving him is Clark's ego that tells him him to go against the grain of common sense in hopes that he might someday look like he was the smart guy.

Dayze 01-08-2018 10:10 PM

No.

You shit away two playoff games like he’s done in historic fashion, its inexcusable.

GloryDayz 01-08-2018 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13347945)
No.

You shit away two playoff games like he’s done in historic fashion, its inexcusable.

He works for Clark, Clark's a mother****ing football moron (even if he's a rich moron), so idiots like Andy are safe.

It all starts at the top..

Molitoth 01-08-2018 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347833)
There won't be a playoff for us unless you ride the hot hand with Smith and let him run the show with a full offensive roster. The loss of Conley was enormous

Who is us? You aren't even a chiefs fan.

Reerun_KC 01-08-2018 10:14 PM

I wasn’t a fan of Andy in philly. Sure not a fan of him coaching my favorite team. Never have been. Most likely never will be.

Red Dawg 01-08-2018 10:17 PM

A strong QB can cure a lot that hurts this team. Alex really was bad a more ways than one. Andy is ok. Mahomes won't fail to pull the trigger to get TDs and first downs.

Dayze 01-08-2018 10:17 PM

But Andy got Alex the coveted 2017 QBR Trophy.

splatbass 01-08-2018 10:22 PM

Not really fair to post a poll when everyone is still emotional after the loss.

GloryDayz 01-08-2018 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 13347989)
Not really fair to post a poll when everyone is still emotional after the loss.

It does bring out honesty..

bobbything 01-08-2018 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347735)
No Nagy with a bunch of vets gone...If he wants a 10 win season and a division title he better keep Smith and restructure that contract to make the pieces fit.

Otherwise it's 7-9 and a lot of pain.

Lol. With $17 mil we could go get 2-3 legitimate players to help Mahomes.

As for the original question, I feel the same way about Reid as I did about Marty...one of these days he will do something right in the playoffs. But I’m not sure I can wait that long.

splatbass 01-08-2018 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13347995)
It does bring out honesty..

No, it doesn't. People will feel differently in a week or two. Never make a decision when emotional. Cooler heads make better decisions.

Beef Supreme 01-08-2018 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347735)
No Nagy with a bunch of vets gone...If he wants a 10 win season and a division title he better keep Smith and restructure that contract to make the pieces fit.

Otherwise it's 7-9 and a lot of pain.

Holy shit dude. Are you getting paid for all of your effort? I can't imagine anyone spending the kind of time you invest in alex Smith's defense without some kind of compensation.

Reerun_KC 01-08-2018 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13347972)
But Andy got Alex the coveted 2017 QBR Trophy.



This^


Basically it’s all about the stats.

bobbything 01-08-2018 10:44 PM

The sooner we can get Mahomes as many reps as possible with Kelce, Hill, Hunt, and one more guy (plus help on defense) using Alex Smith’s money, the better. I don’t have any interest in wasting another year of those guys’ career on an average QB that is in his twilight years.

I’ll suffer 7-9 if it gets our QBOTF time with our best players.

BigCatDaddy 01-08-2018 10:44 PM

He got us Hill, Kelce, and Hunt in the middle rounds. Also targeted and traded up for a very promising QB in round 1. He may have 3 assitants get HC jobs. He is a great HC.. just needs to not be an OC

GloryDayz 01-08-2018 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 13348008)
No, it doesn't. People will feel differently in a week or two. Never make a decision when emotional. Cooler heads make better decisions.

No they won't. They will have been sold a line of BS, but deep down they know it's just Clark having his marketing staff spread pixie dust.

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T-post Tom 01-08-2018 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13347660)
The key question is whether Patrick will save Andy or Andy will ruin Patrick.

I have a fear of a cardigan-wearing, Proust-reading Mahomes looking over his reading glasses at us five years from now, saying, "I favor the safe, high percentage throws".

I find more fear in a turtleneck-wearing, Flaubert reading Mahomes. Call me provincial.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2018 10:59 PM

He tried his best to put lipstick on a pig.

As long as he slaughters the pig now I'm good with him.

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2018 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13348166)
He tried his best to put lipstick on a pig.

As long as he slaughters the pig now I'm good with him.

Still a 66 year old pig he's just biding his time with as well.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2018 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13348209)
Still a 66 year old pig he's just biding his time with as well.

Bob's defenses have given up 22 points per playoff game since the Indy debacle.

He's had limited talent to work with.

I'm fine with him at DC.

RippedmyFlesh 01-08-2018 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347833)
There won't be a playoff for us unless you ride the hot hand with Smith and let him run the show with a full offensive roster. The loss of Conley was enormous

Too bad you are too immature to know football. Maybe when you grow up little boy he's gone. Cleveland hopefully to get destroyed.

Prison Bitch 01-08-2018 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 13347685)
Remember the days of firing Haley and thinking Crennel would save us. LOL

No fan thought that

Hammock Parties 01-08-2018 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13348377)
No fan thought that

I battled homers ALL OFFSEASON over the Romeo Crennel hire.

People thought he was talking us back to the playoffs. ROFLROFLROFL

OKchiefs 01-08-2018 11:36 PM

It depends on what he does this offseason.

- If he keeps Sutton around, then **** him in his fat ****ing ass.
- If he keeps Smith around, then **** him in his fat ****ing ass.
- If he goes with some bullshit internal OC hire, I'm not as pissed but I'm still pretty furious.

If he gets rid of Sutton, sends Smith off to Siberia, and brings in some new blood at OC he will have entered into my good graces again. Of course, my opinion matters for shit outside of my own head, but that's what I personally want to see. I'm not watching a single game next year if Smith is on the team. I'll watch if Sutton is around, but I will be extremely disgruntled and will doubt his every move.

Reerun_KC 01-08-2018 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13348377)
No fan thought that



ROFL. Seriously?

OKchiefs 01-08-2018 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13347833)
There won't be a playoff for us unless you ride the hot hand with Smith and let him run the show with a full offensive roster. The loss of Conley was enormous

Yes, delay the inevitable for one more season. The definition of insanity is what exactly?

So we go another year with no super bowl or playoff success, and we delay getting our young quarterback experience for another year. We enter 2019 with the knowledge that it will be a growing season for Mahomes, instead of getting that out of the way in 2018. In 2019 we basically have one year to make a decision on Mahomes before we have to decide on whether or not to extend to him the 5th year option. We miss out on potential draft pick(s) for Alex Smith, further delaying the rebuild/retooling of the roster.

Any other brilliant takes? What a wonderful ****ing idea, numb nuts.

Chief Northman 01-08-2018 11:56 PM

What pisses me off the most is that Hunt allowed Reid to make the power play in hand picking Veach as the GM when Dorsey was shown the door. Hunt gave up the power that he sought to regain after the Pioli firing, as now there is no checks and balances for Reid. Veach could be a good talent evaluator, work magic with the cap and contracts but he will never have any control over Reid and coaching staff decisions. Veach and Donovan are extensions of Andy, and history is repeating itself again. 3 guys with different titles, but Andy holds and plays all the cards. Philly all over again. Watch him chase a ring by getting past their prime “name” free agents, maintaining a staff that will never challenge nor bring new innovation or energy to the team. His outward display of being loyal to assistants and never calling out players or officials is a front to hide his stubborn, tired, formula that affords him enough success to stay relevant but never revered.

Shit has to change. This franchise will tailspin if Reid is not given an ultimatum by Hunt (who allowed this to transpire) in that Reid must truly get out of his comfort zone. His 20 year formula has yet to work. He needs to think out of the box, humble himself, and be open to new contributions from young coaches and create accountability from both players and underperforming coaches.

If the Sutton/Smith/and promote from within for OC issues are not resolved soon, Hunt will see an empty stadium - with or without the shiny new qb.
Reid has to change now or be unemployd and regarded as one of the biggest chokers in NFL history as early as next year.

Chiefs316 01-09-2018 12:11 AM

Unsure until I see what is done with Smith. If he’s on the roster opening day, I’m done. I would be fine with Sutton one more year as long as Mahomes is at the helm. Our D has played well enough. How many more points would we have needed to beat Indy, Pitt or Tennessee? Can Mahomes turn one or more of those 3 and outs/field goals into TDs? With better QB play, we don’t need an elite defense, we just need better Quarterbacking.

007 01-09-2018 12:17 AM

Said it before. If Smith is the starter next year I won't attend a single game until he is gone. If Mahomes starts and we see the same crap play calling and playing not to lose (and still losing) I'm done until Reid is gone.

I'll still watch on tv but will not buy a single damned thing.

bevischief 01-09-2018 12:29 AM

Want 2 new coordinators with take no names and leave no points off the board no matter how much lead and time left on clock. Screw with being nice.

crayzkirk 01-09-2018 04:09 AM

Tired of cast of coaches and quarterbacks. Lather, rinse and repeat. Just like CEOs, get fired at one job and get hired at another. Wish I was part of that country club. Was against it when it happened and have seen nothing that would change my mind. Too bad the Chiefs never had a QB when they tried the Pioli/Haley experiment. Who knows what might have happened if they had drafted one instead of getting Cassel.

straycash 01-09-2018 04:25 AM

Yes, Andy seems nice, give that man a big fat ring.

Eleazar 01-09-2018 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13348214)
Bob's defenses have given up 22 points per playoff game since the Indy debacle.

He's had limited talent to work with.

I'm fine with him at DC.

ROFL

ILChief 01-09-2018 06:03 AM

I'm withholding my vote until Sutton's fate is determined

bricks 01-09-2018 07:37 AM

The answer to this question, it all depends on what your goals are for this team.

If you’re content with doing well in the regular season, while sh*tting the bag in the playoffs(this is Clark Hunts wet dream basically), then Andy is doing a great job and gets the approval.

If you’re not content with doing well in the regular season, while sh*tting the bag in the playoffs (as most fans are probably), then Andy can go **** himself and gets no approval.

I’m going with the second statement because I’ve seen this same old song with Marty and I’m sick of it.

Prison Bitch 01-09-2018 07:37 AM

Fat Andy had a 5 year plan to bring us a playoff win


He did that

bricks 01-09-2018 07:43 AM

Plus Andy Reid always says the same old things, “oh I gotta do a better job.” Said that in Philly and is doing that here in KC. Yet nothing ever changes, the common denominator stays the same blown leads and games. He only reinforces this franchises ability to choke. So not only no but **** no!

Chiefnj2 01-09-2018 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13348438)
What pisses me off the most is that Hunt allowed Reid to make the power play in hand picking Veach as the GM when Dorsey was shown the door. Hunt gave up the power that he sought to regain after the Pioli firing, as now there is no checks and balances for Reid. Veach could be a good talent evaluator, work magic with the cap and contracts but he will never have any control over Reid and coaching staff decisions. Veach and Donovan are extensions of Andy, and history is repeating itself again. 3 guys with different titles, but Andy holds and plays all the cards. Philly all over again. Watch him chase a ring by getting past their prime “name” free agents, maintaining a staff that will never challenge nor bring new innovation or energy to the team. His outward display of being loyal to assistants and never calling out players or officials is a front to hide his stubborn, tired, formula that affords him enough success to stay relevant but never revered.

Shit has to change. This franchise will tailspin if Reid is not given an ultimatum by Hunt (who allowed this to transpire) in that Reid must truly get out of his comfort zone. His 20 year formula has yet to work. He needs to think out of the box, humble himself, and be open to new contributions from young coaches and create accountability from both players and underperforming coaches.

If the Sutton/Smith/and promote from within for OC issues are not resolved soon, Hunt will see an empty stadium - with or without the shiny new qb.
Reid has to change now or be unemployd and regarded as one of the biggest chokers in NFL history as early as next year.

Yep.

Gravedigger 01-09-2018 07:54 AM

Either Mahomes will make him look great, or foolish. I don't think much of Andy's tenure left in KC is up to him at this point. If Mahomes turns into Alex or better, then he's got some more time until the talent level drops or he just retires one day. But Mahomes comes off as the QB that will run the offense the way he wants to when he's comfortable with it. He'll follow Andy's commands at first, but once he starts to audible and lead, he'll take over to an extent and possibly ignore plays he doesn't think will work.

notorious 01-09-2018 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 13348649)
Either Mahomes will make him look great, or foolish. I don't think much of Andy's tenure left in KC is up to him at this point. If Mahomes turns into Alex or better, then he's got some more time until the talent level drops or he just retires one day. But Mahomes comes off as the QB that will run the offense the way he wants to when he's comfortable with it. He'll follow Andy's commands at first, but once he starts to audible and lead, he'll take over to an extent and possibly ignore plays he doesn't think will work.

This is really our only hope.

staylor26 01-09-2018 08:23 AM

****ing morons still think Veach is a fake GM

:facepalm:

carcosa 01-09-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 13348649)
If Mahomes turns into Alex

please god no

tmax63 01-09-2018 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13347620)
A simple question. Do you approve of the job Andy Reid is doing as the head coach of the Chiefs?

A simple question asked 2-3 days after an ugly playoff loss. Kind of a predetermined outcome, yes????

carcosa 01-09-2018 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 13348753)
A simple question asked 2-3 days after an ugly playoff loss. Kind of a predetermined outcome, yes????

Andy has choked in the playoffs 4 times in 5 years. The answer is gonna be no for me until he actually accomplishes something significant.

Molitoth 01-09-2018 09:36 AM

I choose Unsure until I know if Alex/Sutton will be here next season.

King_Chief_Fan 01-09-2018 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13348773)
Andy has choked in the playoffs 4 times in 5 years. The answer is gonna be no for me until he actually accomplishes something significant.

yup

King_Chief_Fan 01-09-2018 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13348214)
Bob's defenses have given up 22 points per playoff game since the Indy debacle.

He's had limited talent to work with.

I'm fine with him at DC.

Just when I think you couldn't be a bigger moron, you come up with another one :shake:

Hammock Parties 01-09-2018 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 13348930)
Just when I think you couldn't be a bigger moron, you come up with another one :shake:

People just want one guy to point the finger at whether it's the offense or the defense.

It's stupid.

NO coach could make chicken salad out of the chicken shit that was on the field at the end of the game:

Frank Zombo, Allen Bailey, Daniel Sorensen, Darrelle Revis, Jarvis Jenkins and Bennie Logan all played at least 40 snaps in this game.

That's a fat lotta trash logging a lot of PT. And I'm not even counting Steven Nelson or DJ, who weren't exactly starting material this year.

It's a ****ing miracle that Bob Sutton rounded that group into near-elite form in the last four games of the season to get us INTO the playoffs. Because the D was NAILS down the stretch.

Ya'll need to get some perspective because Buddy Ryan, Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy could be coaching the defense and not get more out of that group.

Rausch 01-09-2018 10:50 AM

I think he's an excellent HC.

I think he's a poor OC and bad at decision making in crunch time (be it the last two minutes or for playoff games.)

He's an excellent motivator (much like Marty) and an excellent evaluator of coaching talent (much like Marty) but completely unable to let go and allow those people to make the calls (much like Marty.)

Eleazar 01-09-2018 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13349052)
People just want one guy to point the finger at whether it's the offense or the defense.

It's stupid.

NO coach could make chicken salad out of the chicken shit that was on the field at the end of the game:

Frank Zombo, Allen Bailey, Daniel Sorensen, Darrelle Revis, Jarvis Jenkins and Bennie Logan all played at least 40 snaps in this game.

That's a fat lotta trash logging a lot of PT. And I'm not even counting Steven Nelson or DJ, who weren't exactly starting material this year.

It's a ****ing miracle that Bob Sutton rounded that group into near-elite form in the last four games of the season to get us INTO the playoffs. Because the D was NAILS down the stretch.

Ya'll need to get some perspective because Buddy Ryan, Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy could be coaching the defense and not get more out of that group.

There you go. Claynus says there's nothing wrong with Sutton. He's done as good as Buddy Ryan, Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy, etc. would do. The defense was nails. Nothing is wrong. Status quo on defense is great.

ROFL

Chiefnj2 01-09-2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13349052)
People just want one guy to point the finger at whether it's the offense or the defense.

It's stupid.

Your trolling skills are good.

Hammock Parties 01-09-2018 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13349093)
There you go. Claynus says there's nothing wrong with Sutton. He's done as good as Buddy Ryan, Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy, etc. would do. The defense was nails. Nothing is wrong. Status quo on defense is great.

ROFL

Look, he ain't perfect, but I'm telling you...when you're starting Frank Zombo and dudes you grabbed off the trash heap at ILB and CB...your options are limited.

And he coached that unit up enough to completely befuddle three potential playoff teams, which directly landed this team in the playoffs.

He's no Gunther...who was legitimately BAD when he didn't have top end talent.

When the defense was even just a tiny bit healthier the job he did against the Eagles was quite frankly, ****ing amazing.

He's a stupid scapegoat for a clear lack of talent.

ChiefsCountry 01-09-2018 10:59 AM

John Dorsey sucked ass a GM getting defense talent on this team. We also have a shitty average QB who was risk averse. Bunch of scrubs on defense plus Alex Smith equals a lose. Some of you are too ****ing stupid to see that. A legit franchise QB marches the team down and wins that game, hell probably makes it a 34-22 type game.

Andy Reid has done a fine job getting a below average talent team where we are today. You aren't ****ing winning in January with Alex Smith.


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