There is no way the NFL will pass up Dallas vs Green Bay
 

Sorry Lions fans. You're ****ed, again.

agree 100%

Ice Bowl

Romo choking is a much better storyline for the off-season.

But....Detroit vs Seattle!

This one of those reverse karma wishful thoughts type threads bee tee dubs.

I'm likely wrong lol but I think the SB is gonna be Dallas vs. New England.

And as far as the topic goes, I think Dallas runs all over Green Bay. Murray is gonna grind that D to the bone. No homo.

Stafford has such a stellar road record against winning teams that it is definitely a conspiracy if Dallas wins.

I was thinking similar thoughts about the AFC. Manning vs the Colts next week, then Manning vs Brady in the AFC championship game. Sorry to the other AFC teams, but that's a wet dream for the league.

Panthers / Bengals

I would rather face the Lions, they already got their one win against us this year.

Yeah, it would be totally fixed if the better QB wins today and the #1 and #2 seeds play in a couple weeks.

Oh I don't argue that Indy had the better QB today. But Indy should destroy the Donks next week. Unfortunately, the league wants their golden boy in that championship game playing against Brady perhaps for the last time in the postseason. That would be the real Superbowl for a lot of people. Just like the glory days for Dallas and SF. That was the matchup everyone wanted to see.

Is this a Crying Ramtard thread?

So there's clearly PI, flag thrown, announcement is made, and, 3 minutes later, the flag is picked up.

Yeah, nothing shady there.

It is now.

refs are making sure dallas wins

Well, they certainly made sure Dallas had a chance to tie at minimum. That PI would've put Detroit in FG range.

So, you thought waving it off 3 minutes later was the right call?

If there was any conspiracy Dallas would already have been in some SBs.

Don't know. Didn't see it. Don't give a ****.

Shocking....

Just like last year's Super Bowl. It was totally fixed the two best teams in the league, one with the NFL's best offense and the other with the NFL's best defense, played each other. Only way it could happen.

Exactly.

Well, Joe Buck will be able to go back to SF and wrap his lips around Madison Bumgarner's pecker again for another week....

while that was a bad call. they settled for 3 hen they should have gotten 7. Ref's didnt help but Detroit blew that themselves.

Has the NFL explained this yet?

They'll do like they have so many times over the years with other teams and send an apology to Detroit all the while shoveling another spoonful of shit down NFL fans throats which so many will gladly swallow as they look forward to next week.

Don't know if true or not.
Steve McEwen ‏<s>@</s>SMcEwen_eh <small class="time"> 4m4 minutes ago </small> In the 2010 WC game, Larry Fitzgerald did the same thing that the LB did to Charles Woodson and no flags.

That creeps me out.

Chris Christie is moist.

Did the ref see it, call it, and then pick up the flag 3 minutes later?

You'd think that group could at least hire 1 or 2 females to hang out with them.

Detroit got screwed, no doubt about it!

The sad thing for me is that I can't tell if that's pass interference or not. I would lean toward no, but that's just because I'm using common sense and not trying to interpret based on the NFL's current pansy rules.

Using common sense, I ask myself, "Did the defender make contact in a way that prevented the receiver from catching the ball?" I mean, that is the original point of the rule, right? The ball hit the defender in the back. The receiver was not going to catch that due to the defender's position, and any contact between the two had nothing to do with the fact that the ball wasn't caught. I view hitting the defender's back as being no different than hitting a lineman's hand when it's thrown. It's a defensed pass, no matter how inadvertent.

But the bottom line is that an official can call it any way he wants and can defend it. That's a major problem and it tells me that the NFL needs to do a global rethinking of its rules. They're too complicated and nuanced these days. In this case, for example, calls aren't being made because contact prevented the receiver from catching the ball. They're being made because contact was made and the ball was not caught, regardless of whether there's any connection between the two events.

No shit it looks like a bath house. LMAO

How many times was that a flag against William Bartee for not turning his head around?

LMAO ^ Governor Christie rocking the same red sweater from three years ago.

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I'm pretty confident in saying that isn't PI, at least in my book. What did the defender interfere with? Nothing. The ball was way underthrown and hit the guy in the back. How could you call that DPI?

I agree with this. It was a poorly thrown ball. It's not like he was draped all over him. A flag would've bailed out Stafford.

What? Not PI in your book? Really? He is not playing the ball nor did he even turn his head while messing with the reciever. It's the very definition of PI.

Messing with the receiver in what way? The receiver is the one initiating the contact. If that's DPI its ticky tacky as hell. Should he be back pedaling the whole way in order to defend against a severely underthrown ball? Literally the only contact he made with the receiver, before getting hit in the back with the ball, was putting his hand on his shoulder pad which in no way impacted the receivers ability to catch an uncatchable ball.

didn't see it, but i'm gathering the refs determined another outcome of a game with a call/noncall?

I thought it was PI in real time and I don't think any differently now. He never makes an effort to play the ball, and he is in contact with Pettigrew and blocking Pettigrew from coming back to the ball.

It's unfortunate that they picked such a critical time to do something completely unprecedented like picking a flag up a half an hour later... sheesh

Yeah, that's definitely a little twisted.

The defender never played the ball. That is called defensive pass interference every time...except for this shady bull shit call.

That looked like PI to me. No attempt to play the ball. Pretty controversial for the refs and the league.

Watch the game much? It's called defensive PI every time.

Not really.

I've witnessed plenty of times where a defender doesn't play the ball and doesn't get called for DPI.

If the Dallas player ran through the receiver that was trying to come back to the ball then I would call it DPI, but he doesn't. The only contact he makes with the receiver is when they are both arm checking eachother. To call that interference just because the QB threw the ball in his back is just ignorant.

You are right. The defender commits PI, it's announced as such, and overturned every week ROFL It is blatant PI that's called every week.

Are you suggesting that Pettigrew was making no effort to stop his momentum to catch the ball?

Does it matter when the defender didn't make contact with him before the ball hit him in the back? He had his hand on his shoulder for .5 a second that didn't alter the receiver in any way. How is that DPI?

You're reeruned. I'm not arguing if they called it as such and then later picked up the flag. I didn't even watch the ****ing game.

That's simply not DPI just because he wasn't playing the ball. I mean holy shit... It's called and not called every ****ing week, dumbass. The defender did nothing to interfere with the receiver. It was a bad pass that hit him in the back.

Are you going to start arguing PI every time a defender isn't playing the ball but sticks his hand up and the ball hits the back of his hand?

The defender sees him turn his head because the ball is coming so he throws his hands up and puts them on the receiver and prevents him from coming back to the ball. Pettigrew had a good chance for a completion except the defender basically runs him over. It is clearly pass interference since he did not make a play on the ball.

I am not sure how anyone can see something different, but regardless, that is not what the issue is. The issue is that it was called, announced, (time elapses) and then is taken away with no explanation.

You didn't watch the game ROFL When a defender doesn't turn his head around and makes contact as we see in the gif....it's called every damn time...but today.

He made contact AFTER the ball hit him... Are you saying him having his hand on his shoulder pad interfered with the receiver?

He prevents him from coming back and making a play on the ball. The head rules guy even said it was PI. But no I will listen to slap dick jd .

A catch could have been made if he didn't swipe his hand.

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According to the referee whose crew called pass interference on Dallas Cowboys linebacker Anthony Hitchens and then announced the call was reversed, an official with a better view came in and that caused the change.

Referee Pete Morelli met with pool reporter Todd Archer of ESPN.com and explained why and how the call got reversed. He also made clear that face-guarding is not a foul in the NFL, although many people are under the assumption is it.

Here's the transcript, via a tweet by the Detroit News' Josh Katzenstein:

Archer: Can you talk about the decision to overturn the call and why you overturned the call.
Morelli: The back judge threw his flag for defensive pass interference. We got other information from a different angle that thought the contact was minimal and didn’t warrant pass interference. He thought it was face-guarding.

Archer: Which official?
Morelli: The head linesman.

Archer: What did you see?
Morelli: It’s not my responsibility. I’m a hundred miles away.

Archer: Face-guarding is not a foul?
Morelli: Face-guarding is not a foul. It is a penalty in college but not in professional football.

Archer: What is the process you go through after you announce the call? Should you have waited before you announced the call?
Morelli: Probably, yes. The information came and then the officials got together a little bit later, after it was given to me, the first information. It would probably been smoother if we got together.

Archer: Do you remember this type of (play) happening before?
Morelli: No, not particularly.

Archer: So one more time on who the person was that had the better view?
Morelli: The better view was from the head linesman.

I might buy that if the defender ran through the receiver before the ball hit him in the back, but he didn't.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6i8bbvCQAAumZ2.jpg

"Running through the receiver"

"Preventing him from coming back to the ball"

When there's literally a foot of open air between the 2 players.

It was total PI. Any thought that is wasn't is rediculous.

This screenshot is after he already had his hands on him and the act of interference was basically complete. The open air you speak of comes from the defender throwing his hands up to try to avoid being penalized and the receiver is falling backwards towards the ground.

The douche would have saw that if he you know watched the game .

I've already seen and acknowledged that they were both arm checking eachother, thanks.

So what is the point of posting a screenshot that is after the interference/play has taken place?

Because shit like that goes uncalled on literally every pass play?

Not with the defender not turning his head. Sure the hell doesn't go un called.

Here's everyone argument for PI:

"The ball hit him in the back and he didn't turn his head."

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He hasn't run through the receiver and he hasn't prevented him from turning back on the ball. He only runs through him after the play is over.

CP would be calling DPI on any defender that was beat and just happened to stick his hand up in the exact right spot and knock the ball down just because he wasn't looking at it.

In that post you posted the picture as if to say the defender didn't stop him from coming back to the ball or he didn't run through the receiver because there is space between them at that moment. How does a picture that is after the play support those ideas? Do you have a point in posting that picture? Just what is it that you think it supports?

He hit his hand away as it was on a path to the ball. That is PI.

If they had kept the flag not one person would bitch as it's called as such every week. Watch the damn games.

After the play? Do you not see the ball? That's like a millisecond after the play ended. How does he prevent the receiver from coming back on the ball when he hasn't even contacted him yet? Honest question.

Ummm, no?

Also, the idea that a 250 pound defender running basically full speed and putting his arm on a guy doesn't interfere with him slowing down, maintaining balance, and getting a better chance at the ball is ludicrous. His hand on him may look minimal but I am confident it wasn't.

After that play I muttered "only Dallas". Screwjob.

I don't know what you are looking at. He contacts him before the ball arrives which is before the picture you posted. That is clear as day.